Jaydogrules

I see no reason why we can't repurpose this thread into an Appreciation Thread for this sweet book. A 9.4 SS just went up on a no reserve... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Batman-608-cgc-9-4-RRP-Retailer-variant-Harley-Quinn-Superman-Jim-Lee-Sig-HUSH-/252233476121?hash=item3aba496819:g:PYsAAOSwL7VWhYxp -J.

The sale of this book will shatter records and make headlines. Anyone in the market for an AF 15 or on the fence or "waiting" to buy one is best advised to get one sooner rather than later now as the sale of this top copy will likely have the same trickle down effect on lower grade copies similar to what happened with hulk 1 a year and a half ago. -J.

Very nice copy ! -J.

Foreign money will (help) drive the price of this book into the stratosphere. First 9.4 offered in years ? Second highest graded first Spider-Man ? Spider-Man appearing in the first Marvel movie ever next year? Marvel produced Spider-Man movies for years to come ? It's a no-brainer, gents. -J.

No chance that's a tear. Also no doubt that whomever is going to pony up the fortune it will take to acquire this diamond will spring for the graders' notes. -J.

Haters. That book looks fantastic. Half a milly. -J.

Looking better than I thought it would. -J.

+1 That was actually also part of my thinking. -J.

Up until this most recent 5.5 sale there was a $7k spread between a 5.5 and a 6.0 all year. With this most recent sale of a 6.5 there is now an $8k spread between a 6.0 and a 6.5 (though that will probably narrow some the next time a 6.0 comes up). So is there anything "outlier" about a $6000 spread between a 5.0 and a 5.5? Nope. As I said, it looks consistent to me at least within that cluster of grades. Also, that "old label" 5.5 that just sold is not even particularly nice looking for its grade IMO, mostly because of that jagged, over hanging top edge and the pre-marvel chipping on the top right edge. That book ain't "upgrading" to nothin and I would find it hard to believe anybody who would know what they are doing bought it for that reason. No, somebody just decided that they wanted a decent looking mid grade copy of a Hulk 1 NOW and they paid strong for it. Happens all the time. That's what moves (and has moved ) the market. Although in this instance , it just moved a 5.5 a little further away from a 5.0 pricing and a little closer to a 6.0. Stop the presses! Always a pleasure. -J.

$22K actually. Where did that Hulk #1 6.0 sell? Was it a possibly upgradeable copy? CGC 6.5 copies sold for $23 and 24.7K during that same time period in Feb and May. I think you understand my point - a new outlier is not automatically a floor for a book. It's just a data point. Yes but we have enough data points to (conceivably and reasonably) determine that these are not "outliers" as the term usually suggests only one randomly high sale. Here we have an easily identifiable trend that is observed over an extended period of time and over multiple mid-range grades. To wit, 5.0's have been selling for $13k-$14k, which would support a price point of $19.5k for a solid looking 5.5 which would easily support a price point of $22k+++ for a 6.0 (a price that is from nearly a year ago now), which would in turn support a price point of $30k for a nice presenting 6.5. -J. If by saying 'solid looking' you mean 'upgrade potential candidate' then I agree. Outlier does not usually suggest one random sale. It suggest a sale that lies outside of the normal range. And most of the Hulk #1's that I've followed that are outliers were upgrade candidates. I thought Hulk $1 was already a $3K/ point book in those mid grades, so $13-14K is not unreasonable for a 5.0. I still don't see how that makes a 5.5 a $19K book. I have no idea where you are getting your other price points from. Nearly every 'outlier' Hulk #1 sale was a book that looked to have upgrade potential. I'm all for agreeing that books that are strong in grade will fetch strong prices but I haven't seen the Hulk #1 prices that you're seeing as averages- and I've sold copies in nearly every grade up to 9.0 in the last 2 years. So where did that 6.0 copy sell for $22K? does anyone have a scan of it? All the info I quoted is the publicly available sales data from GPA. And I'm not sure that I'm willing to play along with the notion that "all" the strong prices we are seeing for hulk 1 in mid grades right now are "outliers" or have "upgrade potential". If it were that cut and dried any one of those sellers of those books would have "upgraded" them themselves and then sold them. And even if the recent 6.5 sale was an outlier, it obviously has influenced prices of grades below it, just as those bombshell sales of the 9.2 copies last year for $300k influenced prices across the board for hulk 1. As I demonstrated , each half garde has ample price support beneath it and above it in those particular mid grades. The market has obviously moved (or is moving). I'm actually not really sure what you're debating since "one sale moving the market" happens all the time in this hobby, and particularly with a book like hulk 1 (or showcase 4). A nice presenting 5.5 just went for nearly $20k. Are you telling me that if you had a similarly nice presenting 5.5 you would undercut that price and leave a couple grand on the table because.......reasons ? Of course you wouldn't. -J.

Dealer? No. Flipper? Yes, why else would you care about value? That's a big fat negative on that as well. I have yet to sell or trade a comic in my life. -J.

$22K actually. Where did that Hulk #1 6.0 sell? Was it a possibly upgradeable copy? CGC 6.5 copies sold for $23 and 24.7K during that same time period in Feb and May. I think you understand my point - a new outlier is not automatically a floor for a book. It's just a data point. Yes but we have enough data points to (conceivably and reasonably) determine that these are not "outliers" as the term usually suggests only one randomly high sale. Here we have an easily identifiable trend that is observed over an extended period of time and over multiple mid-range grades. To wit, 5.0's have been selling for $13k-$14k, which would support a price point of $19.5k for a solid looking 5.5 which would easily support a price point of $22k+++ for a 6.0 (a price that is from nearly a year ago now), which would in turn support a price point of $30k for a nice presenting 6.5. -J.

All good. I hope you know that I am not a dealer, just a collector, a hobbyist, and a fan (just not of the show's execution). -J.

Improvable? Following that other recent sale of the 6.5 for $30k, just under $20k for a nice presenting 5.5 might be about right now. -J. You mean this Hulk 1 CGC 6.5 Old label Insane book and looks like an 8.0? A 6.0 also sold for $23k back in February . All things considered the prices all seem pretty consistent to me at this point. -J.

+1 I can understand people not liking the show/character. But to hate it with such passion.. There's just gotta be an elevated motive for that dont you think? No. I haven't heard anyone say they "hate" the show , either passionately or otherwise. Those are your words. People can point out the many deep flaws with the show without having any ulterior motives. It's almost as if you think any criticism of the show on here is designed to further depress the book's perceived market value. I can assure you that I have much better things to worry about than the FMV of a common, $250 book. But that's just me doing a little bit of speculating of my own about your motives I suppose. -J.

Improvable? Following that other recent sale of the 6.5 for $30k, just under $20k for a nice presenting 5.5 might be about right now. -J. Don't let Bob know or he'll raise the price of his copy. He hasn't already ? -J.

Improvable? Following that other recent sale of the 6.5 for $30k, just under $20k for a nice presenting 5.5 might be about right now. -J.

A 5.5 just sold for $19.5k too.. http://item.ebay.co.uk/171955148000?item_hash4=667e45f8&LH_Complete=1&LH_BIN=1&LH_BO=1&_ipg=200&_pgn=1&rc=nt&rmvSB=true -J.

The trick is, figuring out which one of these modern "manufactured collectibles" becomes collectible and stays collectible. The broad conclusions and predictions made by the people in this thread will be true 99.9999999% of the time. There's probably 15-20 books or so where it isn't true. And none of the once in a blue moon sales of any of those 15-20 books will "bring down the hobby" or represent "a return to the nineties". Every era of comic books will have its "stars". Those books are this era's stars. The 608RRP is one of those stars. -J.

not sure why this thread was bumped , but I love reading posts from 13 years ago. looks like the batman rrp is still going strong despite it being a manufactured collectible. Basically every comic book is a "manufactured collectible" and has been for at least 40 years now. That's just a dumb characterisation. -J.

Looks like the VenoMJ is still rolling along... After a boardie sold his 9.8 copy at full boat for $3,500 on ebay http://item.ebay.co.uk/141845000096?item_hash4=548bd451&LH_Complete=1&LH_BIN=1&LH_BO=1&_ipg=200&_pgn=1&rc=nt&rmvSB=true a 9.6 SS copy went for $1,925 http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Amazing-Spider-man-678-Venom-variant-CGC-9-6-SS-STAN-LEE-ONLY-ONE-ON-EBAY-/191752552987?hash=item2ca557c21b:g:w9MAAOSwZd1VYM4R and then a high grade looking raw copy sold for $1,500 http://item.ebay.co.uk/121848235540?item_hash4=48a090b3&LH_Complete=1&LH_BIN=1&LH_BO=1&_ipg=200&_pgn=1&rc=nt&rmvSB=true Not a bad little run there for a still seriously cool book. -J.

$600 for the raw "VF" copy with the "un-witnessed" sig.... $400 for the raw "F" copy with the torn cover and first three pages also torn with the "un-witnessed" sig. -J.

Seriously dude.. Just stop. You hate the character. And the book. We got it. Now have a drink on me and smile a bit. We can all get along I don't "hate" the character or the book. The production team behind the show? There may be a certain degree of disdain there. I don't care if the book sells for $50 or $5000. I have no vested interest either way. I just want to see good adaptations that are actually good, and I don't think I should have to constantly be told how "good" a show is if it really is a good show. Frankly I think this thread is morphing into just another pump thread that's trying to keep this book on life support for as long as absolutely possible. We can get along and be friends, but that doesn't necessarily mean we will always agree in our opinions. -J. Whos talking about sales? you were talking about how the show sucked Read what you wrote and what I highlighted. NOTHING mentions anything about sales of the book. But you just gave it away by clarifying now. Thanks for explaining You may want to scroll back a page or two. -J. Why? Im relating to what you wrote. Your attitude towards the show and character/book was EXTREMELY negative. Not based on sales. All of a sudden you bring up the "I dont care if the book is 50 or 5k" WHERE DID THAT COME FROM Because I know that many on here do. -J.

Seriously dude.. Just stop. You hate the character. And the book. We got it. Now have a drink on me and smile a bit. We can all get along I don't "hate" the character or the book. The production team behind the show? There may be a certain degree of disdain there. I don't care if the book sells for $50 or $5000. I have no vested interest either way. I just want to see good adaptations that are actually good, and I don't think I should have to constantly be told how "good" a show is if it really is a good show. Frankly I think this thread is morphing into just another pump thread that's trying to keep this book on life support for as long as absolutely possible. We can get along and be friends, but that doesn't necessarily mean we will always agree in our opinions. -J. Whos talking about sales? you were talking about how the show sucked Read what you wrote and what I highlighted. NOTHING mentions anything about sales of the book. But you just gave it away by clarifying now. Thanks for explaining You may want to scroll back a page or two. -J.

What did you dislike about the show compared to the book ? The writing was atrocious, the fight scenes were poorly choreographed and boring, the depiction of Luke Cage and their alleged "chemistry" was embarassing , character motivations were weak and random as was the depiction of her powers, the subplots about her friends were extraneous and unnecessary filler, too many repititious sequences involving kilgrave, and overall the show was about 9 episodes too long (4 would have been enough, those who are saying 8 would have been better are still being too generous). -J. We watched 2 different TV shows. JJ is a seriously screwed up individual in print as well as on the screen. I loved how Cage was portrayed but I must admit, I've been a fan of his since the '70s. I like that he was more low key as '70s Power Man would have been cheesy. The "friends" characters are being built for the long term. Purple Man was considerably more powerful and effective in the show than in the book. If you were looking for spandex, this isn't going to be your show. She's a tortured soul and the show put that out. As for special effects, Marvel leaves a lot to be desired in general. Yes I agree the seeds of what you say were certainly there and they definitely had the material available to them to make a solid limited run show. I respect your opinion 100%. I just think the execution was -J.