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wait...he is usimg the CC now?

No I wasn't comfortable enough to make that purchase with the cc so I didn't

When does the credit card used to purchase this book become due?

I used my paypal not a credit card if I had I would really be screwed over

Would anyone else have returned it when you got the 8.0? If the title incorrectly stated it was a 8.5 (even though the picture showed a 8.0) I'd think CGC would quickly side with you when you returned it.

 

 

If I recall correctly, Gabe took the blame for the mistake. Apparently he had several pages open and was looking at several copies of ASM #129 and got confused thinking the book was an 8.5 and that he was getting a good deal on it.

 

You are correct. The book is still up on ICE under recent sales and it is correctly listed as ASM #129 CGC 8.0. There is even a nice scan of the book with the number clearly visible and zoom feature.

 

When you go to check out it also states what you are agreeing to buy so he must have just clicked away and not bother to really read or look over the invoice.

 

Gabe admitted to the error being his own as Logan stated.

 

I hope one day I'm doing as well as the OP so I can buy thousand dollar books by accident

I didn't buy it on accident I bought it to make money on, my accident was having too many tabs open and buying the 8.0 thinking it was a 8.5

Would anyone else have returned it when you got the 8.0? If the title incorrectly stated it was a 8.5 (even though the picture showed a 8.0) I'd think CGC would quickly side with you when you returned it.

 

IF it were misrepresented (and admittedly I didn't check the listing) this would have been the first thing I did. Better to get your money back, even if you're out shipping, rather than have to sell this book at a loss.

 

So it was either Gabe's mistake and not on the seller, or Gabe still thought he could make bank by overpaying for the 8.0. Either way it is a bit

 

I think secretly (or not so secretly) he thinks there's some type of additional prestige or joy to him for owning a desirable key comic, and possibly some type of delusional rationale that he's a big shot who can (or should be able to) sell these big-shot comics at premiums. Like somehow he's put in all this 'work' into buying this comic, he's somehow entitled to a reward for doing so. Or the gambler who thinks he just needs one more big score to make everything all right. Add this to questionable math skills, no understanding of business concepts, admitted learning and emotional issues, generational poverty, unfavorable geography, other potentially 'questionable' political views which nobody is surprised by, and you've got a big ol' rubber-necking shaudenfraude recipe for the rest of us.

I do like owning big comics but I look to make money on them and if I can't I pass on it. My emotional side makes me do stupid and impulsive things that's why it's harder to control but the first step was admitting it and now I'm doing something about it. I don't think I'm entitled to anything with comics and yes I have lots of obstacles in my way.

Would anyone else have returned it when you got the 8.0? If the title incorrectly stated it was a 8.5 (even though the picture showed a 8.0) I'd think CGC would quickly side with you when you returned it.

 

 

If I recall correctly, Gabe took the blame for the mistake. Apparently he had several pages open and was looking at several copies of ASM #129 and got confused thinking the book was an 8.5 and that he was getting a good deal on it.

Unfortunately that's correct ^

Would anyone else have returned it when you got the 8.0? If the title incorrectly stated it was a 8.5 (even though the picture showed a 8.0) I'd think CGC would quickly side with you when you returned it.

 

IF it were misrepresented (and admittedly I didn't check the listing) this would have been the first thing I did. Better to get your money back, even if you're out shipping, rather than have to sell this book at a loss.

 

So it was either Gabe's mistake and not on the seller, or Gabe still thought he could make bank by overpaying for the 8.0. Either way it is a bit

It's completely my mistake and their return policy is 14 days

I have a feeling Gabe would send it to his presser buddy before he tries to just break even...

You guys are making me doubt myself with that staple tear though

Would anyone else have returned it when you got the 8.0? If the title incorrectly stated it was a 8.5 (even though the picture showed a 8.0) I'd think CGC would quickly side with you when you returned it.

Hmmm I thought if that as well but I don't think they took returns I'll double check

But there's a movie, and possibly a show coming.

 

OK, if it were me I wouldn't have bought an 8.0 thinking it was an 8.5, that being said...I would probably hold it for a while, but I can afford to do that. He's $1100 in the hole and was probably counting on this book to get him even.

 

That's why I say he should turn it over ASAP and get as much of his money back as he can. With his new budget of $11 per week it's going to take him time to get the rest of the way out of the hole, but at least he won't be digging himself in even more

I was counting on selling the asm 129 to make a profit on and yeah the 11 a week is really terrible but I promised I'd do it.

 

Is the ASM #129 sold?

 

Nope its being pimped out on Kijiji

 

Whoa, I hope he's not setting his heart on selling that book for almost $600 over GPA average

 

GPA is 867 USD (1144.44 CDN at a $1.32)...so only asking $255.56 over gpa average (kijiji is in Canada and we deal in loonies).

 

So it's not as bad as I thought, but it's still not awesome.

 

If it were me, I would dump that puppy ASAP and just hope to get close to most of my money back.

Yup still working on that part so if it doesn't sell soon I guess the other option would be to hold it

So we have Kijiji and by my count it was on like 7 Facebook groups....

 

Does he have it on his eBay? Can't find him there

 

I guess the theory is that if you have enough lines in the water eventually you will catch a sucker?

I guess you can say it like that if you want but I post as in many places as I can so that I have the best chance at selling the asm 129

 

Is the ASM #129 sold?

Not yet

ASM update 4

 

He says that he cell phone bill came and he's out of money until next Wednesday till he pays me. It sounds like a sad excuse and that he never wanted to pay me if the first place but I'll play his game and if he won't pay again I'll blast him on the groups to make sure no one will deal with him again.

 

Don't hold the book, not without a non refundable deposit on it.

 

Tell him you will continue to try and sell and when he has the money, if you still have it, you will sell it to him.

 

But if he never asked you to hold it, I don't think you have recourse to blast him. Just don't ignore him going forward.

 

Actually he asked me to hold it for him and if he doesn't pay this will be the first and last time I deal with him.

 

Non-refundable deposit for hold. Especially on a book with the "limited" margin you're (most likely) working on.

 

C'mon man!

Yeah seems I will have to do that now would the non-refundable hold be at 20% as well or a different number?

ASM 129 Update 5

The comic hasn't sold and the guy that said he didn't want to buy it which made me angry because if he knew that he didn't want it he could have just told me that from the start instead of wasting my time twice.

ASM update 4

 

He says that he cell phone bill came and he's out of money until next Wednesday till he pays me. It sounds like a sad excuse and that he never wanted to pay me if the first place but I'll play his game and if he won't pay again I'll blast him on the groups to make sure no one will deal with him again.

 

Someone who can't pay for a book because their cell phone bill is due should probably not be buying $1000 books and I would be wary of.

 

Someone only working 25 hours a week on minimum wage and $1000 in the hole from dealing in comics shouldn't be buying $1000 books either

Haha touche. But I'm not a tire kicker with comics if I want something I buy it if I don't I won't bother someone about it.

ASM update 4

 

He says that he cell phone bill came and he's out of money until next Wednesday till he pays me. It sounds like a sad excuse and that he never wanted to pay me if the first place but I'll play his game and if he won't pay again I'll blast him on the groups to make sure no one will deal with him again.

 

Someone who can't pay for a book because their cell phone bill is due should probably not be buying $1000 books and I would be wary of.

Yeah that's pretty odd but I'm not one to talk haha and it will be held till wednesday but I'll be bumping it in the meantime.

ASM update 4

 

He says that he cell phone bill came and he's out of money until next Wednesday till he pays me. It sounds like a sad excuse and that he never wanted to pay me if the first place but I'll play his game and if he won't pay again I'll blast him on the groups to make sure no one will deal with him again.

 

Don't hold the book, not without a non refundable deposit on it.

 

Tell him you will continue to try and sell and when he has the money, if you still have it, you will sell it to him.

 

But if he never asked you to hold it, I don't think you have recourse to blast him. Just don't ignore him going forward.

 

 

This is why I don't deal in anything "high end" on Facebook. After I put in a lot of work, I got nothing as the buyer bailed on a bunch of books he promised to buy. Never again.

 

I may be wrong in this assumption but to me, Facebook is worse or just as bad as eBay for this kind of nonsense.

 

Before you "blast" the guy on Facebook, what were the terms you agreed to with the potential buyer? Don't want to burn yourself in the process.

 

 

Facebook is hit or miss at the start. After you've been in the groups a while and talked with fellow collectors, you get a general sense who is serious and who isn't. The "big book" community on there isn't small but it is no by no means large either. I've had that happen to me before as well. It is frustrating, and that's why I do non-refundable deposits if they want a hold unless I know them and have dealt with them.

 

Facebook can be great and awful. I traded an Xmen 1 for a Superman 10 on there but have also been sent an ASM 28 with no color touch disclosed that was covered with sharpie bleed through. A deal is not a deal on there until you have the money. Don't hold books on Facebook.

Yeah I'll be listing it on the weekend as that's the best time to do it I found

Pretty surprising that this sale didn't go through as smoothly as one would hope.

Yeah I know what you're thinking but facebook isn't that bad I've made higher end sales there it's where I sold my BA12 CGC 9.6

ASM update 4

 

He says that he cell phone bill came and he's out of money until next Wednesday till he pays me. It sounds like a sad excuse and that he never wanted to pay me if the first place but I'll play his game and if he won't pay again I'll blast him on the groups to make sure no one will deal with him again.

 

Don't hold the book, not without a non refundable deposit on it.

 

Tell him you will continue to try and sell and when he has the money, if you still have it, you will sell it to him.

 

But if he never asked you to hold it, I don't think you have recourse to blast him. Just don't ignore him going forward.

 

 

This is why I don't deal in anything "high end" on Facebook. After I put in a lot of work, I got nothing as the buyer bailed on a bunch of books he promised to buy. Never again.

 

I may be wrong in this assumption but to me, Facebook is worse or just as bad as eBay for this kind of nonsense.

 

Before you "blast" the guy on Facebook, what were the terms you agreed to with the potential buyer? Don't want to burn yourself in the process.

 

I do have luck with facebook and made a bit of sales on there but as for who you deal with that's up to you and the agreed upon terms were that he would pay in 36 hours and I'd ship it to him after I'd confirm I have the payment.

ASM update 4

 

He says that he cell phone bill came and he's out of money until next Wednesday till he pays me. It sounds like a sad excuse and that he never wanted to pay me if the first place but I'll play his game and if he won't pay again I'll blast him on the groups to make sure no one will deal with him again.

 

Don't hold the book, not without a non refundable deposit on it.

 

Tell him you will continue to try and sell and when he has the money, if you still have it, you will sell it to him.

 

But if he never asked you to hold it, I don't think you have recourse to blast him. Just don't ignore him going forward.

Actually he asked me to hold it for him and if he doesn't pay this will be the first and last time I deal with him.

ASM update 4

 

He says that he cell phone bill came and he's out of money until next Wednesday till he pays me. It sounds like a sad excuse and that he never wanted to pay me if the first place but I'll play his game and if he won't pay again I'll blast him on the groups to make sure no one will deal with him again.

 

Sounds like he needs to control over using his minutes if his phone bill prevents him from buying a $1,000 book.

Agreed and I'm pretty skeptical of the so called phone bill that would cost 1070

ASM update 4

He says that he cell phone bill came and he's out of money until next Wednesday till he pays me. It sounds like a sad excuse and that he never wanted to pay me if the first place but I'll play his game and if he won't pay again I'll blast him on the groups to make sure no one will deal with him again.

One thing as some have suggested is buy lower cost comics at first to flip as to get experience.

You would be surprised how much profit you can make at this.

An example is buy comics under $1 and flip for $5 to $10 a piece.

Look for comic book lots to do this where you average the comics for less than $1.

Most people are not paying a $1,000 a piece for a comic today,but are paying for comics under $10 a piece.

This adds up quick. Two five dollar comics = $10 which beats minimum wage in America which is $7.25.

After you make profits from this look to upgrade your flips for higher prices.

This strategy works with Magic cards,sports cards,video games and dvds as well.

 

I've bought some cheaper comics to test that out and for video games it works pretty well especially if you bundle everything together people like seeing that. I'm still trying to sell the dollar comics that I have.

That's true. If you spend less money on comics you will lose less money.

Yeah that I agree with

Oh that I have but their schedules are busy and I always get cut short because I talk too much. I do have both a life coach and a psychiatrist that I work with.

 

Gabe, I've noticed you bring this up several times in your journal, so I feel intrigued (and able) to ask you about it. Obviously, this is a sensitive issue for anyone to discuss .. if you don't want to answer it on a public forum, I'll completely understand and I apologise for asking, but ...

 

.. you have a learning disability, I'm sure that having a psychiatrist is not needed to help you with that, so .. what is it? What else are you holding back-on that you need a psyche?? If you do answer the question as to why, it may give us a clearer picture why you make the decisions that you do.

 

I have no problem answering that question. A psychiatrist because they don't know what my learning disability is but realize what symptoms I have, so the more I know about the things I do the more I can tell them and have them give me ways to cope with it. Also as a emotional person I'm more prone to being depressed and doing things on impulse and while I can't change who I am I can change what I do. If you guys have any questions about why I do what I do just ask I'm not afraid to talk about it. The thing about the psychiatrist that scares me is they keep offering me medicine and I refuse to take it because 1. They don't know what I have 2) Those pills are dangerous and have seriously messed people up permanently.

 

I know my situation isn't the best but I don't want it to be worse so I ask what natural ways they have of coping with people that have similar symptoms to mine.

 

This is the problem. You don't want to change what you do because it's too much work for you. You don't like your current situation but you've done very little to change it. You've known for over a year that you have bad hygiene but you've admitted that you haven't done anything to correct it. A shrink can't clean you up, you have to make the effort and stop grasping for reasons for why you're not succeeding in life, you made the decisions to put you where you are at.

 

You're 100% right I do make all the decisions that place me where I am in life and I have started to follow through with some of the advice given here.

 

This is a refreshing post Gabe. You're taking responsibility for your life and not making excuses.

 

Actions speak louder than words.

 

I thought that as I made the post but at least he didn't make excuses or blame someone else. Can only hope his post reflects a change in attitude and he's becoming a better person - something I think we should all strive to be.

 

I agree 100% and I'm rooting for him to succeed. I'd like to see him say less things like " I can't memorize things well, but I know some books to look for" turn into something like " I've taken people's advice and I've begun making a list of books to look for". To me it seems like such a simple thing, especially if you know your limitations, but maybe I take basic skills like that for granted.

 

Maybe I should explain what I see. When I look at the threads I get overwhelmed by trying to memorize it and I can't and I've tried writing it down and it's not clear enough so when I come back to it I don't even know why I wrote what I did. I do have some comics memorized but it's all the keys and what happens when I go to the LCS is pictures blur in my mind if it looks too similar and I think I'm getting a key it turns out it's not. Believe me I'm not making this up but one thing that has gone right is my keeping track of what I bought and sold.

 

How hard is it to make a list? Just do this:

 

Amazing Spider-Man #129

Amazing Spider-Man #361

etc. etc.

 

Take that list with you when you go to a flea market or LCS. Keep the list handy when you look on eBay. I think you're making this much harder than it needs to be.

 

That ties in with my lack of common sense like I said before but you're right I'll take a look at some flippable comics and make a list from there.

 

I would accept that excuse if it weren't for the several people who've mentioned it already as a solution for you saying your memory stinks. This is why people have accused you of being lazy...in case you were wondering why.

 

I see what you mean I tried finding it by using control f but that only works on the page that I'm on but yeah since I remember you I'll make a list and ask you about it.

 

Having almost no memory retention is definitely going to make it difficult (or near impossible) to flip books unless you get extremely lucky and grab a collection for very cheap. Being able to go thru a stack of books either at a Con or a shop and know which books are priced cheaper then you can you can possibly sell them for is one of the pillars of the business. Having a list of hot books and typical prices will help but if you see a Avengers 100 in nice shape you have to be able to gauge if the $20 price tag is something you can flip for a profit (or at least have a basic gut feeling if the price is low or not). Looking up each book on E-Bay will definitely limit the amount of books you can look at while buying.

Yes it will make it difficult and I'm not sure how I remembered all these keys that I did I think it was a mix of repetition and seeing the pictures so many times. I love Amazing spider-man for the stories and the fact that lots of people like it and at the right price always a quick seller.