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Here's the cameo from 299. If Gamora appears less than this, I 110% agree with RMA.

Biggest cameo not considered a full? What about ASM #299? I think that has to be as close to a first full without it being technically considered one that there is on the market. So that should be the litmus test. If Gamora appears more than Venom in 299, I'd be okay with it. If not, I believe a label change request is in order.

i didn't know there was an issue on Gamora's first full appearance. i thought all the while it was Strange Tales 180 If you read both issues, 180 comes off more like a cameo and her name isn't revealed until #181 Sorry fellas, I agree with CGC ST 180 is the first appearance Gamora not cameo. She is talking and shown in multiple panels and key part in the current story. No way CGC changes this. reference: similar issue iron man 118 There is not much dispute on this one, 180 is first. I agree with the contention that #180 is more of a cameo appearance. Just read them recently, and came away with that perspective. RMA do you know a book that has similar character appearance that was labeled Cameo? when I say similar, I am not talking the last page or where the story refers to a book that wasn't released in local comic shops yet. Omega Men #3. His first "full" appearance isn't until #10. X-Men #120. Alpha appears on several pages within the story. That's just off the top of my head. Ok Omega Men 3 is not similar because the character is on the cover. As I stated before, that makes the argument even BETTER for ST #180 being a cameo, because OM #3 has been called a cameo, even though he appears on the cover. How much LESS, than, a character that does not, and has *about* the same amount of panel appearances? That Lobo appears on the cover makes my argument stronger. Talking? I'm not aware of any "talking" requirement being part of the cameo definition, but let's consider X-Men #120 more fully. I'm not sure if you've read it, because you've made several mistakes: Alpha Flight appears on the cover. Yes, in shadow, but still on the cover nonetheless. Alpha is not only introduced with a short bio of each character, including a full panel shot of their faces, but they appear in a grand total of 18 panels, over 7 different pages. And, since we're discussing "talking"...Sasquatch, Shaman, Northstar and Aurora ALL have dialogue in the issue. However, it is about as classic a "cameo" appearance as there is. None of the characters actually appear in full costume, full figure, except for Vindicator, who was introduced in #109. Maybe you've forgotten these things, I don't know. But when the characters have their codenames and a small bio on each, as well as multiple partial appearances within the story, as well as dialogue, that's one of the most "classic" cameos in the history of comics, specifically designed by Claremont and Byrne to be intro'd that way. If THAT is a cameo...then yes, ST #180 is a true cameo as well. What are you talking about? The full team is not assembled in 120.There are no group shots of them together in the issue. Only Vindicator Shaman (background) and Sasqatch are active in this issue. The Other three are clearly only on page 2. The point was to reference a similar issue to how Gamora ST 180 appearance. Is Gamora talking in 180? YES. So, yes talking does count. Is Gamora on the cover ? NO. Is it a single page appearance? Yes. For example, in Iron man 118 James Rhodes is not on the cover, talks, and has a single page appearance that is less than Gamora's. Is this considered a first appearance? yes, it is. Wow. This one is close. I think RMA makes a legit point. Someone should have CGC make a call on this.

I'm not sure if you are comparing this to something else or not. The fact Crimson Cowl was in tons of panels and pages makes Avengers 54 quite different than a single page appearance. This is one of the more tricky ones, but I have always leaned on it being 54. Honestly, it was always listed as 54 in most guides including OS from what I recall. What happened? Couple important people had dozens of 55 and no 54's or what? Calling 54 the first full is a stretch. It is, however, the classic robot reveal duplicated by DC in JLA's battle vs the second Royal Flush Gang! Speaking of the Royal Flush Gang, with all the talk of a JLA movie they might be in play in a few years. JLA #6 is the book to buy there right?

I'm not sure if you are comparing this to something else or not. The fact Crimson Cowl was in tons of panels and pages makes Avengers 54 quite different than a single page appearance. This is one of the more tricky ones, but I have always leaned on it being 54. Honestly, it was always listed as 54 in most guides including OS from what I recall. What happened? Couple important people had dozens of 55 and no 54's or what? Calling 54 the first full is a stretch. It is, however, the classic robot reveal duplicated by DC in JLA's battle vs the second Royal Flush Gang!

XMen 282 & 283 may be a good point of reference as well, gentlemen.

I'm with you, Blob. I lost all respect for Italy after my wife made me watch "Eat, Pray, Love". You keep listing books in the sales thread and Ill keep buying them, big man. You are what we here in Ohio refer to as a "stud".

I agree with RMA that XMen 121 is very much undervalued. Canada just gets no respect.

You might want to check out ebay seller jare.feli, Harv. Something seems aloof! Look at the listings. I have no evidence of wrongdoing. Purely speculation at this point. Lotsa red flags though.

Keep an eye on Marvel Presents #3. GOTG begins and 1st Novacore. Full disclosure-I own zero copies, but I sold a 7.0 raw for a hair under $15 last week on ebay. I might try to pick up a few nicer copies.

No he was challenged Sharon/skypinkblu and I spoke to his mummy. At what point does the 454 page thread become worthwhile to read? I want to cut to the chase. Or... is it really a slow build that is worth it? Nothing about that is worth spending any time. I don't know what the PC term is, but I am pretty sure that Justin was special. I blame the Boards less than I do his mom or whoever takes care of him. It was just an awful train wreck where a special kid wore out his welcome because he had no filter and no one was watching what he was doing. Yeah, but the kids girlfriend was pretty good looking. Justin has some game!! Just not so much with the comics.

Man, I hope the guy I just bought this 9.8 from has a return policy.

This is the best thread hands down. The one about the dude and the trimmed books is just flat out depressing.

Fixed that for you. (thumbs u Disney does not force you to do anything. As much as Marvel. I loathe their decisions, and do not buy anything. Ultimately it’s the buyer which decides. I agree, but the marketing blitz the week before GOTG was unlike any hyper I've ever seen. What's scary is the movie actually lived up to it. Marvel Preview 4 & 7 are holding up very well.

I remember him.. Dear god save us from that idjit! Stay away from Layfield! Bwahahahaha!!! This is great! 8 pages down, 456 to go!!

217 (quasar) used to sell for me pretty well when i had a an ebay store. around guide or thereabouts. probably sold about 3 copies in 3 years. is the kirby estate going to sue if nightracer ever takes off? I actually went through some longboxes from collections I previously acquired looking for the #213 this AM. The closest I got was #214. What's kinda scary is that literally every Marvel 1st appearance is in play. The Disney marketing machine is fueling speculation. I'm not sure about the Kirby estate. It's kinda sad how things have went down. When Stan and the King were working side by side they were certainly capable of some amazing things.

Nice book! I've got 4 of those in mid grade. It's hard to imagine a Dr Strange movie without Dormammu.

I think I'm going to pass on the #213. That's $9 I can away on another 1st Captain Carrot.

I don't know, man. 6 months ago Id have told you to dump those two, but after seeing what Disney did with GOTG I wouldnt sell those books short. I saw GOTG yesterday. It exceeded all my expectations.

? Ya like the Night Flyer, RMA?

Looks like the FP #1 twin cities 9.8 went for a hair under $1700. Full disclosure-I own 20+ copies, so consider me a bit biased.

FWIW, just fired in on a Marvel Team-Up #95. That seems to be rising on speculation as well.

Black Goliath 1? Really?? Black Goliath 1 has more room to grow than FP 1. Much cooler cover, too. Good luck with those Black Goliaths. I hope that works out for ya. Ill just hoard my FP #1's and watch how it all plays out.

i would buy a palette of GL 87s if they could be found affordably. otoh, Iron Man 55 showed that a $30-40 G/VG copy one day could become a $150 ebay copy overnight, so maybe there's a lot of money to be made buying the best $50-$60 copies of this book you can find because they might be $200-$250 copies later. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Green-Lantern-87-CGC-9-6-1st-John-Stewart-/141219340278?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item20e1541ff6 At that price you have to wonder how much upside there is in slabbed HG though? (This market, however, never ceases to amaze me though, so I should probably shaddup.) I've been waiting for Green Lantern #87 to pop every since Dwayne Johnson and Denzel Washington were rumored casting choices for John Stewart in the upcoming Warner Justice League movies. I think I'm going to hoard the GL 87. There's some Bronze Age DC's that are way undervalued in uber-high grade. I'm thinking this is one of them. If you can find them . . . all of the Adams GL's in HG have been popular for a VERY LONG TIME. This is not news. This is true but there is only a slight premium to 87 versus 81,82,83 and so on right now. It's maybe 50-60% higher than the others. I really think that gap could widen. I think this is a good book to work for the JLA movie. I've got 3 now. My highest is CGC 9.0. I need at least one 9.6.

Black Goliath 1? Really??