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Now you've done it,you're poking the bear. Oakman-Who has a 9.4 and 9.2 IH 181 still thinks Cerebus is a cooler book. Iron Man 55 & Marvel Preview 7 both more valuable than the 100 Page 5. No emotion at play here, but with the data we have available both these books are more expensive in 9.2. In the case of IM 55 it isn't really all that close. ASM 121 is also gaining rapid momentum as is the Marvel Preview 4. That last pedigree sale of the 100 Pager is the proverbial nail in the coffin. I don't care about the 9.4's because they are the highest graded copies. To quote the bear himself that isn't comparing apples to apples. An 8.5 copy of this book recently tanked at $335, but I'm not concerned about that either. I know this book is a dog from a speculative prospective. There is a direct correlation between hits on xvideos and the price decline of 100 Page #5. No reasonable person can argue otherwise! MP #7 isn't involved in this discussion, as it had much less worth in 2013. We're not talking about current data. We're talking about a list that covers 2013. Why did you ignore the $1135 sale from earlier in 2011, but included the "last sale" at $876? Do we just pick and choose from information available to suit our arguments....? And...AGAIN...as has been said over and over and over again, slabbed comics sales are only one avenue that Overstreet uses to gather data and compile information. Let's not make the same poorly reasoned arguments as the others, huh? You have a point with the MP 7 and the list being from 2013. I guess this means you are conceding the MP 7 is clearly the more valuable book right here right now? As for the $1100 sale I simply don't see it. GPA shows the sale of the Savannah pedigree, but the only prior sale was from back in 2006. Even if you averaged the two sales the end result would still fall short of IM 55. And for raw 9.2 sales, don't you think that dealers would press and sub copies that high in an effort to attain highest graded? The gap between 9.2 & 9.4 is substantial.

Good info. Right now it's close to a dead heat. If two 9.2's OWW copies went head to head on ebay, the 181 would be a 1:2 favorite on a 10 day auction. On link or connect, Id give the edge to Cerebus 1 and 181 would be a 6:5 dog. All just my opinions as a fan of both books, comics in general and handicapping.

The old books went in grade swings just like they do today. You had over graded books and under graded books (and well graded books). Again, I don't want to start a rumor but this is a really, really sharp looking 8.0 Did you post those large pics yet? I agree. That is as nice of an early GA 8.0 as Ive seen. There is certainly upside potential.

Now you've done it,you're poking the bear. Oakman-Who has a 9.4 and 9.2 IH 181 still thinks Cerebus is a cooler book. Iron Man 55 & Marvel Preview 7 both more valuable than the 100 Page 5. No emotion at play here, but with the data we have available both these books are more expensive in 9.2. In the case of IM 55 it isn't really all that close. ASM 121 is also gaining rapid momentum as is the Marvel Preview 4. That last pedigree sale of the 100 Pager is the proverbial nail in the coffin. I don't care about the 9.4's because they are the highest graded copies. To quote the bear himself that isn't comparing apples to apples. An 8.5 copy of this book recently tanked at $335, but I'm not concerned about that either. I know this book is a dog from a speculative prospective. There is a direct correlation between hits on xvideos and the price decline of 100 Page #5. No reasonable person can argue otherwise!

Right, except in 9.2 or higher. Mr. Nathanson and Mr. Reynolds would happily advance you $1000 upon receipt of the Cerebus #1 in 9.2, making liquidity a non-issue.

Oh boy. I can't wait to hear this. Please elaborate, good sir. Last GPA sale in 9.2 was a pedigree copy below $900. As you even mentioned yourself there are a couple of books that trade higher in lower grade that are off the list. If you feel up to it I'd love to hear your logic.

They really have to get the DC 100 Pager off that list. It's ruining Overstreet's credibility. That book has been irrelevant since the emergence of the xvideos.

Do you really think any movie with "The Rock" cast is going to do well? Take a gander at his past movies,epic fails every one. The Rock rocks. He was good in Hercules. I prefer his work as the leader of the Nation of Domination.

That's a pretty good list. Batman and Supes kinda 1A & 1B though. Or maybe I'm just afraid of commitment.

Timing and venue mean so much when it comes to selling comics. There's volatility on both books. It's the classic scarcity vs popularity argument. It's like debating whether youd rather take home a model or pull off a threeway with two Asians. There are no losers.

He's not doing a very good job unless he owns a 9.0 or better. That 7.5 on comiclink is stinkin it up. $550 is the best offer in 3 months, and that was even a reluctant, bottom-feeder offer from yours truly. It looks like that copy is even signed by Sims.

I've got two 8.0ish copies priced at $75-$80, which I thought left a little room for growth. There's a BIN listed at $50 that might hit 9.0 with a press. If I wasn't already holding my two Id be tempted to snatch it up. All yours if you'd like it, guys.

That is an awful lot for that comic. Sparkle City moves lots of books though.

Can you throw up a few panels of Kav's work? I've heard good things but have not had the pleasure.

Would've gladly added them, ...but I didn't wanna push my luck! Schomburg... LB Cole... Sorry, I don't have any Steranko scanned. Great covers, bud. Schomburg's work is so detailed. It's as if every cover and panel is the Sistine Chapel. You can tell it wasn't just work for him. He was conscientious of the fact he was creating art.

I respect your opinion, good sir. Kirby, if nothing else, is steady and consistent. He was the most prolific penciller of the Silver Age, and his work helped build the foundation of the Marvel universe as we know it. He seemed to rise to the occasion, saving his best work for some of Marvel's most key issues. When Stan Lee needed a big cover he knew who he could count on. Fantastic Four #5 and Avengers #1 come to mind. Avengers #4, Fantastic Four #48, and JIM #89 ain't bad either. He has some brilliant pre-hero covers as well. Bottom line, we all have our preferences. There is no right or wrong answer, but it's hard to imagine things could have worked out any better if those early SA Marvel books were drawn by anyone other than the King himself.

No LB Cole, Alex Schomburg or Jim Steranko? Lots of good ones, but Kirby and Adams in a class by themselves IMHO.

Three turtles related books on the list is overkill. And even raw copies of nm 98, asm 300 and ba 12 sell for more than a couple hundred dollars each. They are far more influential books than almost anything else on that list as well. This CA list does seem a bit of a throwaway list to Overstreet. -J. Yep. The BA #12 sells for >$200 in 7.0-8.0 raw. Not sure how that's left out in 9.2, unless they consider that a modern vs copper age.

I know which one Id rather own, but note OPG gives GG a value $100 higher in 9.2

Nah, the Star Wars variant is the champ. It's worth 2X the #2 book on the list in 9.2, so arguing its dominance may be pointless. Gobbledygook #1 vs Star Wars #1 $.35 may make for an interesting debate though.

Thanks. Clearly, it's an error/oversight. But $15,000 for OAAW #83? That's madness. Just madness. I don't remember what I sold mine for, but it was in 2002-2003, for probably a couple hundred dollars or so...it was a nice VG/F or better, too. Yeah, Id probably take my chances with the FF 2. There's some guys on this board though that are really into War comics. Your buddy, Mr. Greenham, has multi-page article about them in this edition. The Copper Age list is all over the place. Variants have jumped the shark. I don't mind the BA 35 centers, but half the books on the Copper Age list? You know how I feel about a few of the BA's. GL 76 is about 4 or 5 spots too high. The last two on the list are a bit shaky IMO as well.

It doesn't look real clear. I have my scanner set at the minimum requirements for the board. It does say that OAAW 83 is a $15k book in 9.2, which would be good enough for 19th on the list. The BA list is also there as well. Enjoy

bronzejonny has a point. OAAW 83 has the higher value in 9.2.

I got ya covered, RMA. Give me 5 minutes.

If a buyer is willing to draw a line in the sand and is willing to support the market for any copy at X dollars, then it technically isn't shilling. It's the equivalent of placing a stop limit buy order in the stock market. Apple might trade at $101, but I can basically put in an order to buy as many shares that are made available at $95 until my cash runs out. This guy might just be bidding guide value on any copy that goes up for auction. Nothing illegal or unethical about it. It's probably just a buying strategy. Shilling is creating a separate account to bid up your own books. It's deceptive since the buyer has no interest in purchasing the book, but is trying to bilk every penny out of prospective bidders. That is dishonest, illegal and unethical. Since the sellers of these copies appear to be different parties, I can't imagine that's what is happening here.