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21 minutes ago, vodou said:

You're going to get into this at times when the dealer doesn't actually have the art in hand but merely on consignment from the artist. Not every dealer (really REP btw) wants to admit and own that aspect, it reveals that they may/do have almost no actual monetary investment in their business and maybe that's not the look they want to give. (I don't think there is anything wrong with that but it should be so stated, being upfront and level setting expectations is always great customer service!) So asking detailed questions about a piece (the size, is it 'clean', etc) will be brushed off or delayed response while they're trying to get the artist to give that info to them...it's kind of funny, but anyway...I think that's the case with Cadence and that's also why the delay in shipping, they probably have to get the art in hand before they can re-label it out to you! None of which is excusable (imo) without prior notice. I mean...just admit th art isn't in hand and that can/will add more days than customers may normally anticipate. Right?

Couldn't agree more.  No communication looks and feels (especially for the person spending $$$$) terrible.  But I still don't understand how a person who literally deals a particular artist's work...is supposed to champion it and produce sales...cannot speak to it...?  How does that happen?  Has he never actually seen the art in hand?  Is that a thing?  Does the artist know her rep acts like this to potential clients/customers?  Now I'm all worked up...it's almost happy hour time...

I've flirted with buying a Frison WW cover from him, but his lack of responsiveness is a huge turnoff, plus I've run across posts similar to yours before.  I asked a few questions about the art I was interested in via email and was pretty much brushed aside (which seems not uncommon for OA dealers, or maybe I just catch people on their off days) after a delay in response.  Make sure you're cognizant of any deadlines/rules for initiating a refund from PayPal and I guess go from there given you really want the art.  Hopefully it shows up, or he responds with tracking info.  Unreal that it's been a month.  I'd be very upset.  Good luck.

She's a beaut, Clark!

Just finished Knightfall on Netflix the other week...I think it's not very popular, but I liked it.  Drawing is very difficult, inking is near impossible...

27 minutes ago, delekkerste said:

at least for those of a certain age and disposition towards a broad understanding and appreciation of the history of the medium

Thank you for reminding me that I'd be out of my place to comment, or have any thoughts on this piece of "art".  You really are something..."elitist" and "arrogant" come to mind.  

Edit:  You may as well put me on ignore cause I've had about enough of your ageist attitude.

2 hours ago, Larryw7 said:

How is everyone seeing this already? I thought it didn't open until Thursday night.

Amazon had a deal for Prime members to see it early. At least that’s how I saw it early. 

Saw it this evening and really enjoyed it. I’d put it right up there with Wonder Woman. Awesome visuals, would love to see a sequel. 

Bendis/Maleev Daredevil, dude.  Bendis/Maleev Daredevil...

19 hours ago, BookofStrange said:

My Heritage win finally arrived:

 

Doctor Strange 180 p. 2 Colan/Palmer (May 1969). I have owned the Third Eye poster for years but am very happy I have the original image it was made from.

This piece, to me, feels like OA as Art.  It doesn't need nostalgia and is great as-is.  It's very big, cosmic, and thematic...spectacular.

On 8/11/2018 at 10:11 AM, Callaway29 said:

Would love to see a report on victory comics, or any shop in NVA. I’m in Springfield and don’t have a local joint...all online. Like you, been to a few but all new stuff...

You are likely aware, but Tosche Station just opened up in the Huntsman shopping center.  They're inside across from the entrance to Giant.  Hope you are well!

27 minutes ago, jjonahjameson11 said:

I’m not too familiar with Booth’s work so I took a quick look online at some of his Flash work and it’s very, very nice.  I think you’re correct in saying he’s very talented and a great value!

And now I have definitive proof to show my wife that I can, indeed, be correct.

There is a new, very cool, LCS opening up in Springfield, VA.  

https://www.toschestationcomics.com/

They are having a grand opening this Saturday December 1 at 10am.  I stopped by about a week ago and was very excited because 1) they're located across the street from my house, and 2) they had such a great assortment of comics, games, toys, and goodies from my childhood (90s kid).  Some back issues, but not a ton of very old stuff.

If you live in the area, stop by and check it out.  Maybe spend some money, because like I said they're across the street and I've waited a lifetime for such an arrangement.

Cheers.

2 minutes ago, BCarter27 said:

Grandma Moses is a running joke in my house.

Ha.  My father in law is actively looking for one, and he comes to me for advice on his art purchases.  I try to keep it professional, but I've come close to looking him in the eye and saying, "please don't do this".  But to each their own.

I was in...Sacramento (I think) and had a similar experience with a local shop.  I asked if they had any "original art" and the clerk went upstairs and brought down a slabbed book with a sketch of Thanos by Ron Lim.  It was interesting to see how she reacted to it.  She held it like it was a newborn.  Then I told her I was looking for original published pages and she gave me a Ted Theodore Logan, "whoa".  I chuckled and assumed that was a 'no'. 

I think they're 40+ because that seems to be about the age when most folks can dole out a good amount of cash for artwork.  It doesn't mean they didn't want it, or didn't have an appreciation for it in their 20s.  I think there's a natural progression and education that takes place and will continue to take place going forward.  I look at vintage pages and know nothing about the story, but I see the image, see the artist and have a draw toward it.  There are many Silver and Bronze age artists whose work I've frankly never read, but who I'd love to own good examples from.  Hope that makes sense.

I didn't know about Master Race either, but learning is always ongoing.

2 hours ago, Lucky Baru said:

For whatever reason Brett's work (outside of his early stuff, i.e., Kindred/Backlash) doesn't seem to be on anyone's radar.  The guy has talent and his work on the Flash was exceptional.  It will be interesting to see what that page ends up selling for at the end of the auction.

I agree.  I think Booth is highly talented and a great value.

18 hours ago, vodou said:

Okay but what do you think will happen to the prices of bad art (lacking a universally popular aesthetic), that which is beloved by a certain bandwidth of fans (aged 9-14 when the books came out) on a pure nostalgia basis but which has no other support outside that band? We'll all have our own examples of "bad" but instead let's leave it vague and I'd like to know if you think non-nostalgic outside of comics altogether would have any interest in that material, at any price? Do I have this wrong, are you thinking there will be no "bad" comic art if the future you see and/or hope for? This btw is not a poke-jab but speaks instead to the possibility of certain comic oa being regarded the way fine art has, sort of, accepted self-taught, naive, Sunday painter, folk and other "lacking a universally popular aesthetic" categories.

Good morning, Vodou.  I did not intend to give the impression that I think there is no "bad" art, or that there wouldn't be in the future.  In fact I think quite the opposite.  I'd say the vast majority of stories/art out there are average at best (the same in the fine art world where its really the top 1% of the 1% that mislead people into thinking there is money everywhere).  In your example, I'd expect the value to not be there after nostalgia runs its course.  But, in my mind that's miles away from BWS being worth $100 (and I recognize that was hyperbole to prove a point), and where I also take great exception to the thought that young collectors cannot get into BWS (again just as an example, as there are many similarly situated artists one could use here).  We're going to have art history classes in this stuff.  Museums are opening and high dollar auction results are attracting attention (I'm a good example of that).  Plus, I just believe in this stuff.  I believe in art and the expression, creativity, and impact the medium has had and will continue to have.

Grandma Moses comes to my mind, but I cannot think of an OA equivalent off the top of my head.  I'd suspect we don't know the OA Grandma Moses yet.

36 minutes ago, vodou said:

Fair enough but...will "new" blood be willing to cash out "old" blood for the anticipated roi that the rest of the hobby is/will experience above cola? A number of us doubt that, I'm sure Gene does too. Otherwise, who wouldn't take any BWS for $100...right? But that's not the question.

Yes, if feels as this board certainly leans one way on that question, but no one really knows do they?  I've asserted that I believe this "hobby"' will move into more of a fine art situation...maybe not exactly the same animal, but something similar.  And who really knows what kind of lens history will view all these funny book artists we enjoy.  In the short term, the board could be right, but again in the long term I think this hobby matures well.  I know that's maybe not a great response, but I don't want to get into writing a treatise on an online board.

@delekkerste I re-read my initial post and used some language that I would not otherwise (certainly not in person).  My tone was overly harsh, and I apologize.  I was hungry and on the way to lunch when I got all worked up.  I dislike to use an excuse, but I do love art (comic or otherwise) and can get a bit sideways at times.

EDIT: I'll also add that I'd love to own a lot of that stuff, but prices being what they are I have to stay disciplined as OA is not my only "hobby".

I don't know...sounds like more pessimism and lamenting (whining?) about "new blood" (which apparently doesn't count unless you go on CAF and "make a splash") and that no one younger than 45 will ever appreciate Barry Windsor Effing Smith.  Not very interesting to listen to, I turned it off with 57 minutes remaining.  I'm sorry you older guys on here think your hobby is imploding.  I happen to disagree.  There will always be changes in taste, but I also heartily believe that over time the cream of this art form will rise and people even younger than myself can appreciate the Barry Windsor Smiths (or insert artist working prior to 1990) of the world.

 Nice page. Wish I would have seen this earlier. 

Hoping this is the appropriate thread for this...

PSA for Jim Lee fans, IDW's Jim Lee DC Legends Artifact Edition is now available for pre-order.  I know this book has been pushed back since May (I believe), but I just pre-ordered mine for $100.  A google search will bring up several vendors offering pre-orders.

https://www.idwpublishing.com/product/jim-lee-dc-legends-artifact-edition/

PSA for you true believers, Amazon Prime members can apparently see this movie a week early.  Looks like they're holding showings at 7pm on December 15.  I just bought two!

https://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-prime-members-can-see-aquaman-a-week-early-in-us/?ftag=COS-05-10aaa0h&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_content=5bf2e1873ed3f0000174afca&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1bJ5Gh46BDBtJ1u4UlUHDPWyUY_zb3fwWDctM5i9Yx3Hu6lTXWXWEnidU

3 minutes ago, jaykza said:

Looks like he's completely digital

Thank you, I was hoping against that as I really love his rendition of Superman.  

Anyone know who reps Jorge Jimenez, or if he sells his OA?  A cursory online search didn't turn up much, save for a lot of Spanish.