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6 hours ago, Canadiancomics said:

 

Latest addition to my Amazing Spider-Man 100 jam piece, courtesy of Ron Frenz, who completed Spider-Man. 9 villains left to go and this thing is complete, list of artists and characters below;

Frenz- Spider-Man
Hughes- Gwen Stacy
Larsen- Doc Ock
Ramos- Green Goblin
Sinnott- Doc Doom
Granov- Venom 
McGuiness- Mysterio
Crain- Carnage
Pollard- Black Cat
Jusko- Electro
Zeck- Punisher

 

nice idea. and you can use the $400,000+ savings to do other cool things

36 minutes ago, RICKYBOBBY said:

Also grabbed this early Sin City: Big Fat Kill splash of Miho in action. This was my favorite issue of the mini series!

Thanks for looking!

http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1465348

it took me a minute there when I first looked at it. where is the guys face? is that laser light coming out of his neck? and then I saw it.  only miller could have done it this way. very nice pick up.

7 hours ago, vodou said:

Gosh I've seen this once or twice before. Let's not beat around the bush. It's CoolLines, Cool Lines, The Brothers, The Donnellys, Steve or Stephen Donnelly, San Mateo Art, and probably tons more et al too

the coolyness thing comes from the fact that the words cool lines are put together - so - where its unclear how to say it. . so I say cooli -ness!

So is anyone else unhappy that there is too much cool stuff coming out in this auction?! 

4 hours ago, ESeffinga said:

Hey, I used to own that Mignola Dylan Dog cover. It was pretty keen. Bought it from Mike at SDCC way back when. Sold it when I determined it didn't really nestle in well with my collection. It sold to (dun dun dunnnn) an Italian collector. Kinda miss it some times, but when I had it, it felt like a bit of an outsider somehow, and I'd always intended to end up with a different piece from Mike. Still haven't scratched that itch.

 

I'm done rambling. Back to your thread...

 

Cool. These boards have so many stories to tell.  Can' believe you had the Art!  

6 hours ago, pestonaccio said:

Hi there from Italy!

You're trying to get covers of two of the most popular Italian "heroes", so be ready to pay some cash.

Dyd has been around from 1986. More than 300 issues and still going. The first 41 covers were done by Claudio Villa and are almost impossibile to find (black hole collections); when this happens, prices are very high. Then Angelo Stano jumped on board and he was the regular cover artist till 300-ish (but he switched to digital somewhen). Now you have Gigi Cavenago, who is really great but it's all digital.
You can get other covers from specials, annuals, reprints, etc., but people are craving for the first covers up to issues #100. Price range for a Stano cover 1.200€ for the crappy ones to 4.000€ for the top ones. I saw one Villa cover recently for 9.000€. Reprints, specials etc are far less expensive (Bruno Brindisi or Corrado Roi). It all depends on what you are looking for... The image you are showing is the Dyd cover done by Mignola for the US edition of Dylan Dog (Dark Horse).

Diabolik has been published since the 60ties, but, if my memory helps me, all the published material is owned by Astorina, the publishing company. They have a huge vault full of OA that are never going to sell. Sometimes you can find some nice illo et similia, but not original covers done for the original series. Specials and reprints may be available (but I don't think so). You might be able to find some art from the French edition.

Anything else, just ask!

PS: I used to own a nice Stano cover that I sold to get a very important panel page from issue 100 featuring Dyd, Xabaras and Morgana... It's like trading a nice Spidey cover from an anonymous number for a wondeful panel page from a key issue featuring MJ and Goblin. Same rules of the US market apply here as well!

Thanks for all the insight!

Hi All,

Looking for insight on Italian comic art. Toying with the idea of getting a Diabolik cover or Dylan Dog Cover. Not in a hurry. Just trying to learn -as this is early stages. Seems like there have been tons of artists on both of these. Wondering who are the best known names/artists on these characters? is there certain runs that are better?

images shown are random - to add interest for those who don't know what I am talking about. color image is Dylan Dog and the 2nd is Diabolik.

7 hours ago, SpeedforceKJ said:

Paul Abrams Flash 

 

Love this drawing. interesting to see the rectangle in the background. Ron Frenz does the same thing with many of his sketches. wonder if its an artist trick from back in the day that classic comic artists like to use.

anthony has a ton of art and is usually fair with pricing. the exception seems to be when he gets something he views as above average. he prices those things higher than they might otherwise be worth at the time. not coolyness level mind you -but not a quick flip item either.   not sure if he still has it -but he was selling a cho avengers cover for 10k - unsold for years. then raised the price even higher.

1 hour ago, ESeffinga said:

Boy, the breakdown of the list is very North American-centric isn’t it, and even then not very complete?

Mexico?

 South America = Other

We needed breakdowns of what exact coast the Canadians and Americans are on. Yet Europe / Asia / Africa these are huge. And Id at least have my major continents covered before subdividing them.

And the folks in say Savannah, or Miami wouldn’t have been fine covered by east coast? They have to choose between east and southern?

Just being snarky...

I was going to write - in the 1st post - if you don' like the breakdown - do your own poll.  But I didn' want to be snarky. Ha ha.  I broke it down the way I thought it would end up. I knew I missed some areas. Other was supposed to solve that.  If you are in the other areas and want to tell us where - feel free.  The original premise for this poll came from a comment that estimated that 100% of folks on here are from new jersey.  So there you go. Clearl not the case.

Perhaps some of the low pricing has to do with the sheer # of back to back auctions.

Inspired by a recent comment from @rick2you2  - here is a poll to see in general terms where we all are.  Obviously this could have been more specific - but didn't want the list to be too huge.  No doubt I missed some places. Sorry in advance. 

15 hours ago, Mr. Machismo said:

Example of a nearly completed 15k commission attached. Jim really does shine best with Scott’s inks. 

15 hours ago, Mr. Machismo said:

Example of a nearly completed 15k commission attached. Jim really does shine best with Scott’s inks. 

So is it the Batman tax or the jim Lee tax?  Personally would like it more if it was wolverine. Or psylocke. Or maybe Elektra. Or maybe punisher . I love Jim Lee. Perhaps he could switch places with Quesada and do some marvel art again.

2 hours ago, jabats said:

My new “Wall of Cho”:

 

Looks fantastic! huge congrats. Cho is a super talent and these look great framed. its interesting to see the various sizes.

personally I don't think you need the comics there -but that's just me. now all you need is 40 more cho covers and you are temporarily caught up.

34 minutes ago, dirtymartini1 said:

I think what makes most owners of art keep their guard up is when they get messaged out of the blue by strangers showing interest in their art. There's a good chance its a straw buyer acting on someone else's behalf. Oh it happens just as much as shill bidding. 

When I first started I didn' have a CAR gallery - I think that made it harder when making inquiries.  The other party doesn't know anything about me.  The first thing I do when I get any offer - is to check the other persons gallery to see what stuff they collect.  If they signed up to CAF for a while without posting - I am usually more hesitant to deal with them. In the other hand - dealing with guys who have a gallery that is still being updated - makes me feel more comfortable both as a buyer and a seller

On 11/02/2018 at 4:20 PM, williamhlawson said:

Oliver REED!  He haunts me.  That guy was in a lot of movies.  He was in a knight movie I saw when I was younger (BlackArrow?) and GOR!  I once lost a $500 trivia contest LITERALLY due to not knowing 'Name the actor who died during the filming of Gladiator, on location in Italy, drinking at a bar.'    But seriously, sharp framing job.

Great frame job for sure!

3 hours ago, Bronty said:

I guess that's even smaller.   Trading card size.   Oy vey.

Actually I think its bigger. 8.5 x5.5  that pen in the Albert Moy  image is not That big.

this is up on ebay now and is close to the item for offer with Albert.

ebay link

Recently I had an email back and forth with a new collector.  He had mentioned that he was interested in possibly purchasing items on my CAF that were marked NFS.  I explained that those items were really not for sale and that if he was really interested he needed to make a great offer.

he came back to me asking for guidance? what is a great offer? what is the starting point? what did I want for the art?

I couldn't help but smile -because I had experienced the same type of confusion when starting to collect art. I am sure many of us here have. I decided to share my thoughts on this situation as well as thoughts about buying and selling in general with the new collector. After doing this, I realized that my approach/philosophy on this topic may or may not be typical for other collectors. Hence this thread. Would love to hear your thoughts/philosophies on this topic.

Here is what I told him.

When I am actively selling art - I think it's fair that I put a price on it.  Usually when I am selling its to fund raise for other art - so I know what I need and I pick art to sell that can help me get there. 

On the other hand, art that is marked NFS - I do not have a selling price for. A buyer would have to make an offer and I would then have to contemplate it.  So what is the right price to offer he asked me?

My response was -check dealer sites and do tracking bids on auctions for a while to learn prices or price trends.   That would be a good start.

One of the things I noticed new collectors do when they make a blind offer is to do so without any comparison.   For example - if you make an offer for $X - you need to look around at art for sale at dealer sites,etc.. and see what that $X buys you. Then when making the offer ask - is that item at the same level, better or worse than other things at that price ($X). if the item that is NFS is way better (example -better artist, characters, series..etc..) than what is for sale on the market - your offer is likely too low. 

Sometimes there are no recent comps for an item you are looking to make an offer on.  One observation, that may or may not be true is that for some artists/series -the market value is low -so owners of the art don't make the art publicly available. In such cases - the only way to get this art is to make what might seem like above market prices.  I recall being interested in some art once and the CAF member expressed to me that -there was no point selling since the presumed value was too low to make them want to part with the art. If I really wanted the art - I would have had to make a crazy offer above what might be reasonable for a like item to fetch at auction.

From the sellers point of view - if you ever wondered if you should sell a piece of art ( speaking about significant amounts here) - here is a lesson I learned from Felix Lu via his recent podcast.  In that episode, Felix said something that I really loved. For those who didn't listen , this was where Felix got an offer for a piece of art he owned but didn't sell the art -saying that most likely - he was the crazy guy who would spend at least as much as the offer or more if that same item came to auction again.  So if you are the crazy guy that would pay the higher price for your art today - keep the art. ha ha.

Feel free to tear my thoughts apart - but more so, please consider sharing your personal views on decision making for buying, selling, making offers, and so forth.

3 hours ago, Timely said:

Well, I was referring to the original series!

ha ha. no need for you to justify your assessment. . i know what you meant. just causing trouble and enjoyed adding food for thought since marvel restarts their title so many times.

the cover is a real treat to see - and an amazing addition to your gallery.

1 hour ago, chrisco37 said:

At 50k, you’re paying solely for the art.  The frame isn’t even in the equation.  Sure, a good frame up didn’t hurt it, but it didn’t help it either.  At that price, you’re paying solely for the art.

You are right - but that wasn' my point. I was thinking about the way the art was treated. The respect in other words that the art got.  Sitting in a broken frame on the ground at the back.  Just thought it was interesting to witness. 

6 hours ago, Timely said:

Less than 100 people in the world can say they own a pre-100 Amazing Spider-Man cover. I feel blessed to be one of those few. Feel free to add a comment on my CAF page!

 

http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1463156

 

 

 

When I read the statistic about less than 100 people in the world can have an issue of ASM  under 100 - it made perfect sense. Clearly such logic - cant be argued against.  Unless you start thinking about all the reboots and all the variant covers with those reboots.

Anyway - huge congrats on a fun Romita cover - with the forever electrifying villain.. um .. you know his name.

7 hours ago, comix4fun said:

Good Lord!! I love these!!!

 

While I imagine these would cost a  tiny (big ?) Fortune today - I have a small related story. 2 or 3 years ago at sdcc  - Illustration House had a color portrait of the Addams family by Charles Addams. It may have been used for tv guide, but can't recall. It was sitting in a garage sale type frame, on the floor in the back of the booth. When I enquired about the price - it was $50,000. I thought at that price it at least should have been in a sturdy looking frame - but apparently they felt it was more authentic to sell framed art the way they got it. Clearly at some point - whomever framed it, didn't think of it as a $50,000 piece of art. Alas - those were the days to get these things on a working man' s budget.

13 hours ago, The Voord said:

I'm waiting for the day CGC starts slabbing the AE books (all the sizes).  Naturally, not having the IDW books in their original brown boxes will impact on the grade . . .

  I think . . .

actually if this happens, a good scam might be to cgc the boxes only. with cgc -you cant look inside anyway. (never understood the idea of having a grade for the inside part of the comic that you will never ever see.)

saw it on CAF. a real treasure! congrats