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You may be right Duff. But there are a few titles that I would question producing UKPVs for, and yet they exist. Maybe it was a blanket policy driven only by dates - if there was a US copy between them, then a corresponding supply of UK copies were run. Maybe they gave no thought at all as to the suitability of content. Only time will tell. One shots tend to turn up less I have found and, in this instance, as you say, it's difficult to imagine many people either buying a copy in the first place, let alone preserving one.

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Apart from the fact that she looks like she's had one too many pies, what is going on with MJ's right leg here? And Spidey's arm to leg length ratios? Second printing? I'd have abandoned the first personally

Afternoon For those of you familiar with my variant investigations here on the CGC boards, I've had a go at tracking the Archie 15c Price Variants myself, and have built up folders and spreadsheets over the last year or so in the same format as my other work. We have a set of folders like so... .... a capture spreadsheet like so... ....a list of in scope titles by date, for which no 15cv has been found... ...and an overarching list of confirmed issues like so: Quite a few of the confirmed issues on my sheet are taken from this thread, the remainder from eBay and other online sources. I don't collect these by the way, and have no plans to do so (pretty impossible from the UK really), but I did pick up an example or two for comparison purposes to see what differences might exist between the books other than the cover price: None, as it turned out, for the above example. If anyone has any examples of books not on my list here, I'd love to see them. I have 63 of a possible 113 confirmed so far but I know the total in this thread has indicated a higher figure. My focus on the Charlton 15cvs and Canadian price variants established new understandings for what existed for them, updating some long held beliefs, so maybe we can do the same here. Here's my own confirmed list again: Got any more? Cheers, Steve

Indeed. I've said it before, the only thing consistent about the printing practices of the early 1960's is the complete absence of consistency! It makes for fun research though Steve. I'd love to go back and watch it all in action and see how they did it. They'd probably find it amusing, the printers, to think we're here 60 years later trying to work it all out

Hello I was playing with the Kids this morning and it struck me how different looking the three 9d prices were on these here three consecutive copies: Kid #60 Kid #61 Kid #62 Here they are up close: Not one of them the same I've often mentioned across my threads whether some of these prices were printed or stamped after the production event. A lot of the Charlton UKPVs have prices that look hand applied when compared the the rest of the printed cover. The middle Kid above, #61, certainly looks like his price is hand applied doesn't it. It appears lighter in tone, slightly smudged and much less defined overall than the circle that surrounds it and also in comparison to those of the surrounding issues. It makes you wonder what was going on doesn't it. Maybe the price fell off of the plate and they discovered a whole run of priceless copies* at the end of the run. Maybe they had to apply the stamp by hand or some other mechanical device because of it. And I wonder why the inconsistency in fonts? There aren't too many examples about of these books to make a comparison but the placement on these two Charltons seem to move about a bit and, perhaps, is indicative of an after the printing event price addition: As ever, we may never care know. *All UKPVs are priceless of course

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Thanks Mr T. Again, great to see these further copies finally surface. Only 300 or so to go! Cheers Duff. The Kennedy one shot is one of only three titles - if you can call a one shot a title - for which I've yet to find a UKPV. They become a bit mythical after a while, these continually absent books.

I feel like I'm on Big Brother Rich And I find your PDC speculation Pretty Darn Clever! All good fun. Now, who's that at the door I wonder? Hang on....

That first one must be a Whitman bag if this one, with the same Spidey logo, is anything to go by?

Should a nomination to the HOS be a factual based post only and free from personal opinions? I have no issues with the nomination and am able to discern the facts and make my decision. I would vote yes to him being placed on the list based on the known facts which speak for themselves. But this paragraph makes me uneasy as it is laced - in my opinion - with opinion: Are phrases like "there is no coming back from this" and "it is of the belief that such actions...." appropriate to a nomination regardless of how many people may subsequently agree with them? At the point the poll was posted there was no community 'belief that such actions...' only the nominators belief. And is it the nominators place to say whether there is any way back for the nominee? Please don't misunderstand me - I personally think that the actions of the nominee were beyond the pale and it is right that this nomination be put forward. But I would prefer nominations to be a simple statement of facts and free from comparative scenarios such as "it's no different to going into a bank..." which are personal to the nominator who, in this case, was not even one of the directly wronged parties.

Great cutting there Mr T Google says May 59, so it's all in that ballpark: From that we can take it that any US book that arrived, or was on sale in the UK prior to May / June 1959 was effectively illegal. So the earliest 'official' arrivals could only be from after that date I suppose. Some reasonable speculation there. At the highest level, we know when the ban was lifted and we know who the two key UK distribution players were - T&P and Miller. And we know what books each of them took on, courtesy of their company specific price stamps. And it's almost certain that the Marvels were a formal request / process (given their printed UK prices) and that DC were likely unsold returns in the beginning. There are a few nuances here and there that could still do with a little finesse in understanding - Archie UKPVs from March 1960, Dell UKPVs from April 1960, Arnold Miller price stamps and the limited 1960 Len Miller UKPV Marvels for example - but in a nutshell, we more or less have the complete picture. What we can't say at this point is which book / publisher was 'the first' in the UK officially, as it's likely that our early examples all landed at the same time rather than by any natural cover / production date. Maybe there is some documentation out there waiting to be unearthed that may tell us more. In the meantime, I quite enjoyed this run through.

My kind of thread One here lifted from eBay, not sure if it's a legitimate image though: And one for sale, if anyone is collecting.... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Superman-377-1982-Very-Fine-8-0-No-Cover-Date-Uncommon-Intro-He-Man/183616926168?hash=item2ac06bf1d8:g:SPEAAOSwRF1cJ~VX

I've changed your perception Kevin - the stamps are things of beauty..... Anyway, I'm looking through the remainder of my files to see what else I can post that might be of interest to the 0.0000000000000001% of the boards that have taken the trouble to acknowledge that the thread exists. I think we've more or less taken my initial premise for the thread - what came first - as far as we can and, whilst we can clearly provide some solid data around what books exist with definable cover stamps, and their cover date spreads, it is equally clear that we can't as yet definitively state when those books arrived in the UK and when they went on sale. There is a lot of anecdotal evidence and individuals recollections to be found, but nothing concrete like shipping records (if such a thing even ever existed back then - would ballast require a bill of lading?) I've got some folders with examples of stamps for other lesser known publishers - Tower, Atlas, M.F. Enterprises etc - but none of them appear early enough to be significant. And I have a lot of examples of stickers and such that turn up quite often - these Irish ones get about a bit on Towers and Dells: Dell come quite late to the party by the way - the earliest stamped copy I have found so far is a February 1962 book. There are some fairly high profile publishers that I haven't found any examples of T&P / Miller stamps on - Gold Key for example. No wonder I'm struggling to fill my Tom and Jerry run. So that's probably it for me now, on this thread. I have a few avenues left to explore - if they turn anything up, I'll be back Thanks for reading

By the way Mr T, what makes you think the shilling stamps above are the work of Miller? He always snuck an 'LM' into his stamps and printed prices:

I always liked that cover It's better suited to the thread below though, given the stamp

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Aw, thanks Colin. I think I've mentioned them once or twice, yes I will. Comics are great aren't they. I've always loved them. And all the little nuances and variations. It's great fun posting about them here, especially when other people get involved.