Get Marwood & I

The thread has become quite illuminating on a number of fronts. Here's a few last thoughts from me. Firstly, I did a lot of work investigating inserts when I was an ASM collector. I wanted to make sure I had every known copy, so spent a long time researching them. What became clear to me fairly quickly is that MJI's / NDS inserts were only placed in standard US priced newsstand books. There were no examples of MJI's in direct editions, or price variants (US, pence, Canadian, Australian). So when I first saw the copy in this thread I was sceptical. As far as I know, MJI's should not be in Canadian copies by design and the DD 231 is the only example I've ever seen. But it does now look like it is legitimate, i.e. that it has not been created after the original production event. Here's an obvious example of one which has - an ASM #121 post production construct which anyone who has spent enough time researching will know should not legitimately exist: It's quite easy to see the crude attempt to pass it off. Again, if you have spent any significant time looking for MJI's in the wild, you become quite adept at spotting them and can easily spot ones which 'don't look right': But the Daredevil 231 does indeed look legitimate so well done to @RCheli for finding it and @ADAMANTIUM Mark for sending one to CGC. Mistakes happen and I agree with RCheli that the likely explanation here is that the wrong cover was attached during production. That brings me to my second point. I think CGC have made a mistake by grading the book as a blue label with no reference to the fact that the book should not exist in this way by design. To hold up the highest standards, I think they should have made it clear that this book is effectively a production error. Otherwise, it could over time lead new collectors down the wrong path should they become interested in MJI books and start collecting. If I started out as a newbie now, and found the image of Marks book on Google, I would assume MJI's existed in Canadian copies and would search accordingly. I would like CGC to be more on top of these things. They have a superb resource at their disposal - the members of this board - but often seem unwilling to use that expertise. I flagged what was clearly a pence ASM #1 graded as a US copy to them recently and got no substantive response. I have sent a number of similar scenarios to them and in each case was ignored. So CGC here have commenced what may perpetuate as a myth. A bit like Overstreet and their insistence that the ASM mini copy appeared in Esquire Magazine. Mark - I would contact CGC if I were you, and run this by them. The right response for me would be a free reholder but with the label clearly noting what the book represents. You're not in it to flip as you say, so it would be a service to the community and would still result in you having one hell of a cool production error. That would be a great result for me. My final point is the commentary in the thread about Ben Noble and John McClure. There are always two sides to every story and my experience with them both has been extremely positive. I haven't met either in person, but have collaborated on variant related work by email extensively. I can say that I found both to be intelligent, decent people who have a clear love of comics and an enthusiastic desire to seek out the wonderful variations and, crucially, to post those findings for others who share their interests to see. It saddens me to see their names traduced here in this way. During our collaborations both parties accepted every suggestion I gave them with thanks and good grace, as did I in return. There was no issue at all accepting mistakes and correcting them. We had disagreements on non-factual matters, but managed them respectfully, never losing site of the bigger picture - we all love the same thing. Online disagreements can go badly as we all know, and often decent people can come away tarnished with one poorly placed response, posted in anger or frustration. But we are all human, and we all make mistakes. I look at what Ben and John have contributed to the hobby as a whole, and judge them on that. I also make my own mind up about them, by basing it on my own interactions with them. CGC make mistakes. Overstreet make mistakes. Winston Churchill made mistakes. Even I make mistakes once or twice a century I wish people would be a little kinder to each other, especially when we are all playing in the same arena.

There you go Maurice...

Well done Mark. A Canadian MJI is not something I thought I would ever see

My old copy...

I agree, but wonder if he would have attended? Seemed happier away from the spotlight to me. We'll never know. Here's two snippets from online sources. Some nice praise from Stan who, himself, came across as a wonderful chap:

there maybe two more alternate covers to find, An Alternate Magneto Cover and a psylocke/Colossus/Gambit/Rogue cover. Edited yesterday at 08:34 PM by nesqrick2 Cheers Nes. The GCD has five covers, A to E: We have A and C: No reason why a B, D and E might not exist too? Here's the front and back of the US version of copy E: Wonder if an AUS priced back cover exists?

I really like these mock ups that you do. Nice to think of him pottering about with his camera, taking snaps to replicate in the comic. It's like I've said before - Ross's art may not be the most stylish, or even accomplished, but there's a truth to it that I love. The world he portrays, and the people in it, are real. They we're real to me back then, and they're real to me now as an adult. The art suited the mood, and the time. I just love it and I wish I could have met him and told him that. It's wrong that people have to die. I don't like it.

Cheers Nes. I have a new title to add to the list and a lot more finds. I'll update the thread soon - going to be offline for a bit

That's cool Nes. I wondered if there would be AUS copies of the alternate covers

Goodnight.

Not much fun in here tonight is it

You'd think he'd have heard us by now with that bionic hearing wouldn't you.

Well, we're on a comic chat forum so I reckon we're all big kids really

Not a kid in the seventies then Icefires?

The youngest thinks it looks like the thing that Seth Rogan put up his butt in "The Interview."

FoggyNelson? FoggyNelson?! Are all Marwoods followers lunatics Krang? Looks like it Titano. Bunch of nutters the lot of them. Settle down you two. (Jeesus) Yes Miss, very sorry Miss. Sorry So you should be. Remember, I could always get the stethoscope out... (Fear her...)

He's got a bionic kid?

Is Austin also a Reece? And wasn't one of them bionic?

Isn't it Greg and Austin? Only one way to find out. Greg! Austin!

Shout really loudly. Greg. Greg. Greg!

That's the worst bout of innuendo I've ever seen in a Dr Who thread.