Get Marwood & I

Thank you @CGC Comics for restating your announcement about Newton Rings here in the announcements forum. I started the thread you refer to above and worked with @Brittany M. Brittany behind the scenes to get the original announcement posted there. If it's OK, I'll call refer to you as CGC the company in this post as I don't know who you are. I have some questions on behalf of the membership which I hope you will respond to. They are drawn from the comments I have read in the various threads about the issue. Please if you will keep these two things uppermost in your mind if you do decide to reply: 209 members voted in my poll and an overwhelming number indicated that they were dissatisfied with your communication on this issue You make a great play about the new 'crystal clear' holders - this screen shot from your own website tells us how you value presentation ('superior optics'): Here are the questions: I have owned over 150 second generation slabs in my time. Of those that I still have, the inner and outer plastics are in full contact and yet none have rings. You say that, and I quote, "two different plastics have different refractive indexes and that sometimes creates a rainbow effect". Why only sometimes? Assuming you use the same plastics, what causes the rings to appear in one book and not another? And why did none of my 150 second generation slabs have rings? Do you think it is right or fair that you decide whether a book is severe enough to be reholdered, and not the paying customer as your announcement suggests? How do you justify that position? What are the scratches on the inner sleeves that are being reported by many members of this forum and are they connected to your Newton Ring resolution? Is it correct that you have imposed a two week window from receipt for members to query issues with their slabs? If so, and I ask because it has been reported as such, how do you justify that position when not all recipients may / will be in a position to open their packages in that time frame (holiday / work commitments etc)? Having admitted, by nature of your offer to reholder 'severely affected books', that Newton Rings are a problem, what compensation are you currently offering to those who contact you and meet the criteria? If you are not, why not? Has your research into solving this problem found any evidence that rings may appear in transit, i.e. they leave your quality control ring free but subsequent shipping movements create the rings? Every reasonable person who has commented on this problem has indicated that the new holder is the problem. Newton Rings may well have existed on previous generations of slabs but in nowhere near the severity we are seeing with the new holders. Why are you the only people who do not acknowledge this? Why do you not revert to the previous holder design while you redesign the new holder? When do you expect to eliminate the problem? Thanks for your time. I hope you will feel the need to respond to these points and clear up these areas of confusion and frustration. I hope I speak for the majority when I say that we all want CGC to succeed. No one wins if your product is faulty. Please show us that you are on the same page as the majority of your paying membership. Kind Regards, Steve 'Get Marwood & I', RPITA

Yay! The Wizard Apes are here at last Thanks for circling them AJD - not sure I'd have found them otherwise

It's the 'tailored' multiculturalism that irks. Always Westernised. Always slim and pretty. Note the fat woman died. No fat companions allowed. Or old women. Who wants to see that. See what I did there? Yep. Always A 'worthy' in there who can overcome their disability. You never see a white banker who has to overcome out of control materialistic urges do you. Or a career criminal who has to learn the impact of their deeds on others. It's lazy preachy TV by numbers. The polar opposite of what Dr Who should be about.

@The Voord

I've got a grey / blue ASM scan example somewhere. #175 I think. You can never find them when you want them!

You're welcome. I find them interesting. I couldn't find the one I was looking for but here's a similar thing:

That could just be a colour variation - I see it a lot on comics where a blue can be grey on some copies, purple on others. It's all down to how strong the inks were at the time they came off the press. I have an ASM set just like it. So unless the grey copy here was once blue, that would be my theory. The first book you posted has been attacked by water, moisture, mold. The second set are original ink variations. Any more?

That looks like water / moisture damage to me. See the wording at the top is smudged as if the ink has run. Is this the only book you've seen like it? Your wording indicates you've seen others?

Man, I am not having THAT delivered to the office anymore. Lesson learned. Good move. May I recommend Barney the Bigoted Bear as a replacement? He hates everyone equally.

That's not really fair sean, come on. CGC themselves list the 'crystal clear display' above preservation and security on their own website: https://www.cgccomics.com/grading/holder.aspx You can't imply that the visuals don't matter when CGC themselves trumpet that they do. And newton rings destroy that visual aspect when they are prevalent on a book. And as for frost on a popsicles box analogy, popsicles are not a visual medium collectible (last time I looked). Would you buy them if they had an odd looking brown substance on the packaging that looked like poo? Be fair

Not that much at all really - a few of the dealers are supportive of the research I'm doing and give me a good deal. And most of the books are mid to low grade so I wont be making a fortune on resale anytime soon! It all just adds to the mystery Gnash...

Hardly a surprise. Many will have been curious and wanted to see how Jodie fared. The true test will be the mid to end of season ratings.

Only .5 out! Congratulations - you can sell it and buy that Lamborghini now!

That's a great splash page isn't it, thanks Unc. One of yours? I must have read that comic a hundred times as a kid. Andru always did the best Spidey eyes. And as I've said before, realism just made it all the more - well, real. To me, as a kid, this was happening....

Flimsy, trashed up sleeves We'd hear it from the people of the town They'd call us

Bucky?

Superman - Supes Doctor Octopus - Dock Ock Green Goblin - Gobby Who hasn't got one?

Yes, you're right. I was doing an Overstreet and putting a deliberate error in

As Toyah Wilcox once said, "It's a mystery".

Tough crowd tonight.