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It was indeed, thanks Steve. Missed it anyway. Been in a device-free zone for a week or so.

Some of my favorite comic stories of all time. That Wrightson cover had a profound effect on me at age thirteen, to say nothing of the Dave Stevens covers.

There's a bit, Darlene, but not too much. They started properly in 1981 & put out 30 - odd titles until 1984. Loads of great artists, like Kirby, Wrightson, Stevens, Corben, Ploog, etc. Some classic covers - I had most of these when they first came out. Sadly, they went with the rest of my collection when I sold it back in the '90s. The Twisted Tales are the pricier ones now. Still, it's another hunt.

This just landed today - Think I'll try to get a full set of everything Pacific put out.

Cheers, pal. I think I've developed muscle memories for several of their more pedantic idiosyncrasies. I'm going through the lists & adding variant edition issue skeletons (& cover scans when I have them) for everything that's missing. Currently up to Rawhide Kid in the Marvel table. I think I'll be certifiable by the time I get to the Charltons.

Amazing, Dolores, and frustrating. I meant to ask earlier, but do you have any objection to me pinching any of your scans from the threads? I'm going to try to crop them to within a micron of their lives & upload them onto GCD. I'll credit you, of course, but it's the only way I'm likely to get a scan of My Girl Pearl 7, Patsy & Hedy 70 & 71, Battle 70, etc., etc. Some of these are like rocking horse poop.

Compelling, for sure. Especially given the battering most comics took just getting here. My guess is that the pence copies may well have been printed first, but not consistently. There were too many variables to guarantee a firm plan to print one set of covers before another on every run. Different guy on the press, different print runs, different ink levels depending on cover graphics, etc., etc. Also, when you get into the 70s & you have 3 or 4 variants in a print run (30c, 35c, 12p, Whitman), trying to pick out which was first off the press will just melt your eyeballs. Still, good bump.

G.I. Joe in French anyone? Just got this in today's mail. Part of a little ebay UK lot.

Won this little lot on ebay UK last week - I bid on it for the G.I. Joe - But this was a nice surprise. Inside Strange #151 - 4 weirdly-sized, badly-trimmed trading cards Also some French McFarlane Spider-Man - A Finnish Spider-Man - & 2 Italian Draculas -

I like random little ebay lots like this - No other pictures, no complete listing, enough visible to make it worth a (small) gamble. Minus a bunch of manky bags (stapled shut!!!) & this is what I got - Nothing high grade & a couple of proper rags, but it was worth it for these -

See you around Mary Ann. Chin chin.

Plus, look at the cover - Timmy's pooping himself at the thought of this 'helpless' doe. Lassie, meanwhile, thinks the whole thing is hilarious. They were never really on the same page, Timmy & Lassie. This is the essential tragedy of the series.

So many wells... And barn fires. And bears wandering into town. And elephants escaping from the circus. And shady characters with canvas bags with $$ printed on them. I ask you, Barbara, what isn't sad about Lassie?

This looks like my Australian Twilight Zone - Similar numbering on the cover Similar indicia GCD lists these as Australian market copies, printed in the Philippines.

I love this. The colors are so weird. Want one now.

I didn't mean that, anyway. No sh*t. I worried about that, too, but conversations drift. That's why we like them.

I understand your thinking, but there is an important distinction: the UK books are from the same print run as the US books (same press, same paper, same day, same guy pushing a button) & the Filipino books were printed in the Philippines several weeks/months/years after the original run. My preference for 'edition' as a tag for the Filipino books is down to where and when they were printed. Been thinking about this over the weekend. I agree with what you say about them being referred to as 'reprints'. They are not reprints, in the strictest sense of the word, as they don't reprint the source material in its original format. That said, I'm warming to Marwood's assertion that Los Fantastic 4 is its own thing & not an 'edition' per se. It's a fine line, but I think they could only truly be called an edition if they were made by the original publishers (Marvel in this case) as a different batch, specifically for whatever market they were going into. Is this too pedantic? Don't answer, Francine.

I guess I'm still here as well, Helga. Ta. I understand your thinking, but to my mind the use of 'edition' on these books is just marketing. They're actually variants, because they'll have the same innards & just a different (fancy) cover. Unless, of course, the indicia changes to reflect a new 'edition' (usually referred to as a reprint). Again, I agree. CGC, like it or not (& I'm a bit beige on the idea, truth be told) is seen as an official arbiter when it comes to grading and classification. Much the same as the Overstreet guide (but we won't go into the holes in that just now). Hmmmm... I still like the idea that Los Fantastic 4 #1 was intended as a Spanish language edition of FF1. Plus also, It's not technically a reprint, because the original was in English, so it's the first Spanish edition. Maybe 'Spanish Language Edition' is something to consider... I can't tell you how glad I am that there isn't.

Ditto, Kathleen, to all of that. I'll mull it over over the weekend & pick up again on Monday. Got a busy-ish weekend looming.

Thanks for posting Ganni. This kind of confirms my assertion that these are 'editions' rather than 'variants'. They were printed later & in a different place. The key with these three - is that the interior pages are all from the same print run; same 30c indicia, same ads, etc. The only difference is the price block. That's why the 35c & 12p are 'variants' & not 'reprints' or 'editions'. Again, this is all just my opinion, built through an application of (I hope) logic & 40+ years of accumulated obsession.

Morning Mildred. Saw your post last thing yesterday & figured I'd chew on it a bit overnight & see if anything fermented. I agree with the above, up to a point. That point being, while I accept that there was no proper run of Amazing Spider-Man printed by Goodwill Bookstores et al, I don't have a problem calling the above a Philippines Edition of Amazing Spider-Man #111, because that's mostly what it is. Yes, it's a bit of a fudge, but it was printed (albeit with new ads & possibly fewer pages) from the original plates as a single unit entire. That's why I think of it as an edition of this issue, rather than a whole series. A bit like the German editions of Incredible Hulk #181 & the others that were done in 1999. I agree with this as well, but possibly for different reasons. The UK paper comics were mostly anthology titles, regardless of who was on the cover, & didn't usually reprint full stories in a single issue. The same is true of the French stuff you know I like. Though they reprinted full stories, they usually bulked them out with 1 or 2 more. It doesn't make much sense to me to call Strange #235 a French Edition of Marvel Super-Heroes #18 when it also has a full Ghost Rider story and a reprint of Avengers #16, including the cover. These are clearly country and publisher specific products, which, while they make every effort to reproduce full stories, don't give a monkey's proverbial about continuity. I would, however, insist that this - is a Mexican Edition of this - because it represents an equivalent context to the original. Yes for variant, no for edition. In my mind the indicia is the key to the term 'variant'. If the comic is from the same pile of innards & has a slightly different cover, it's a variant. If it was printed at a different time or in a different place (& makes an effort at continuity and content), it's an edition. Again, yes and no. Yes, we're talking about reprints in the broad sense anyway, but if something is so similar to the original that it inspires this kind of discourse, I feel it warrants at least the potential to be classed as an edition, depending on the various factors we've been discussing. Does that make sense, or do I need more coffee?

This is interesting, as it appears to disprove at least some of my assertions. It has the same indicia, but do we know that it was printed in the Philippines? Was it printed in the US, along with the 30c, 35c & 12p copies? If it wasn't, when Alemars got the plates, were they instructed to add a 'reprint' block, or did they leave it off accidentally-on-purpose? How many pages is this & what are the ads like? Is there a scan of the back cover? I love it, BTW & I want a copy.

- I prefer the term 'Filipino Edition' myself. To my mind, a variant is only a variant if it came from the same batch as whatever it varies from. Price experiment, direct, UKPP, Canadian, Australian variants were all printed at the same time as the (intended) original newsstand cents copies. They all have the same interior pages & US (original) price indicia; only the covers vary. A comic that was printed at a different time in a different place is, by definition, a different edition of that comic. Again, my opinion only, though I feel it makes sense and is compelling as a standard.

I was certainly unsuccessful. I only got 20 quid for my Aquaman Annual last year (posted in your DC thread) & it had a Detective 363 in it. Mind you, I only paid £4.50 for it.