HuddyBee

1. The shadow we saw was obviously Eddie Brock, the only Venom (Eddie and Symbiote together) was the fist at the end. I really don't see the point of trying to argue that he was black because he was venom (other than to just be a pain). He was in shadow, and I think most people understand that. 2. Appear - "come into sight; become visible or noticeable, typically without visible agent or apparent cause" If he isn't lit properly he hasn't appeared, as he isn't visible or able to be seen. Once again a shadow isn't reflective of a character, nor is a hand or a leg.

A bondage cover in the SA 60's! That'd be something special. Darn CCA.

Thinking of specifics... if Zatanna were on the cover of Hawkman 4, that book'd shoot up even more than it already has. It really does matter.

Always loved this cover yet wondered of all characters, why Hawkman and Metamorpho? I mean Hawkman is DC's greatest creation, but that isn't the consensus of most DC fans. It just seems an odd hero selection.

I have a similar situation with this copy of Marvel Tales 99; the only ink at all present is blue. However I'm fairly certain, and was lead to believe, it was just an extreme fade.

Of course... How could I forget?

Here's an example with Spiderman 298 compared with 299.

Precisely, because a head is much more representative of a character than an arm or a hand.

I just feel for a character to appear, the comic ought to at least show a majority of said character. A character isn't merely represented as his hand or a part of his body. The character is the sum of all of his parts, and I wouldn't consider it an appearance if a majority of his parts making his character didn't appear. For example comics like Spiderman 299, and Spiderman 360 would be considered "first app." of Venom and Carnage respectively, while 298 and 359 would serve as cameos.

Looks like my advice is a little bit late. I've done this plenty of times. I even posted a thread covering this a while back, to the ridicule of many a boardie. But it does work, and I'm glad someone else was able to use this technique.

Bust out the iron. With inexpensive books such as these you can just iron it w/o steam thru a piece of parchment paper, then place it between two heavy books. Just be careful because you can easily destroy your book. Most would worn against this, but with simple bends and roles it is a pretty easy DIY fix.

I've never been a fan of the "cameo v. first appearance" discussion. I've always, and will continue to consider cameos as first appearances, and "first full appearances" as 2nd appearances. If a character is seen fully, then said character appears. I feel a cameo is more suitable to describe instances like Spiderman 298's Venom hand, while first appearance would go to 299's full venom panel/page and dialogue. With, yes, 300 being now 2nd. If a character is visibly seem (mostly: ie, not just a hand or a leg) for the first time, or if a character appears for the first time, it is is first appearance. Think about it, in 1974 people were buzzing for a whole month about Wolverine before issue 181 came out. They had already seen him, and read is dialogue and knew who he was. He had already appeared. It really makes no sense to think of 181 as his "first app." for he had already appeared fully to the general public a month before. I mean is there really any knew info gained concerning Wolverine in issue 181 aside from his "Canadian-ness?" This ideology also helps my budget, as many "first full appearances" are out of my price range, while "cameos" are easily attainable.

Love this Flash cover. I've this book, and it has to be one of the top CC covers (heck! just plain Flash covers) of all time. And the "CENSORED," what is it actually doing there? We can see the picture, not censoring much. This cover is just classic

Agreed if it's already a mid/low grade book, I doubt there'd be much of an effect.

Some books I picked up all at my local flea market, for some great prices. Thor 165, 4.5 $70 Thor 390, 9.2 $1.75 Avengers Annual 10, 8.0 $10 Iron Man 126, 6.0 $3 Moon Knight 1, 4.5 $5 As I'm not a huge marvel guy I'll probably trade/sell these books.

I first start by collecting some keys. For example if I was collecting SA Marvel keys (which I never would) I would end up buying Iron Man #1, and possibly some other Iron Man keys as well and just some all-around filler books. From their I'd look at my collection and go, "Huh I could do an Iron man run," and then complete the run. One thing leads to another. That is how I completed my The Atom, Aquaman, and Hawkman runs. While I haven't put a ton of runs together. Putting one together is very satisfying. And I would much rather have say my Hawkman run then most of my other random DC SA keys.

The modern artwork featured on the new labels juxtaposed with a classic SA comic and its art just looks bad. I'd never get one.

Ya know I can actually get behind the perspective. Kirby's poses and the perspective he uses in said cover above are actually pretty cool and unique. However, what really turns me off is his overbearing shading and geometric feel. Take a look at (what I assume is) the guard. His face is just a rectangle, a slight curve on top, and 3 lines to close it on the bottom. His nose is entirely straight lines, and extremely blocky. This style is applied to both BP and the man in the background. The woman's face is one of the better looking as it isn't anywhere as rigid, for if it where it wouldn't look like a woman. Now this style can be used for certain characters and be fine in order to establish a feel to those characters, however when it is applied to almost all characters (and all art for that matter) it just becomes brash and overbearing. When it comes to Kirby's shading we have very little actual "shading," he rather uses solid black blobs. This form of shading is used by other artists as well, ones I'm a fan of like Nick Cardy and Ramona Fradon. However it is used sparingly and in the right places. Look at the guards shirt. His ruffles in no way call for that much shading. Anyway this is just my humble opinion and if you're a huge Kirby fan then take all with a grain of salt.

Hey I actually haven't met a lot of people who can stand that cover. But I respect all who can. Kirby's just not for me, I love and I'm all for people who like him. One think I can respect about him is he had a pretty obvious style and he stuck to it (opposed to artists like Dillin whose style changed at least every 5 years). I've also always loved Kubert and Murphy Anderson. Kubert, Murph and Kirby both have very obvious styles, but are almost all completely different. Kirby used hard straight dark lines usually for a very geometric-esc feel. Kubert is also almost the exact opposite using long thin and often wavy lines. Murphy is more geometrical similar to Kirby, but uses almost exclusively a ton of small short lines which create very intricate and detailed characters. Kirby also had a unique way of shading, almost always using solid black shapes rather then a lot of small short lines as Murph, Kubert, Swan, and pretty much every other artist used.

I've never been a fan of Jack Kirby's art. I've always found his art in a way brash. Of his DC work New Gods has to be his best as it's the series that seems to lend itself best to Kirby's style. Mister Miracle doesn't feel right without Kirby, however most inner panels at least in issue 1 look pretty bad. The inker could be to blame, but I just really can't get behind any work Kirby did in the 70s. I just find his style ugly and overbearing. Just take a look at his BP #1 cover and tell me you don't want to vomit.

used parchment paper

I pressed spine rolls out of a couple books using an iron, and although everyone here thought I was dumb, it did work! (I also ruined one books as well, nothing of value tho) I wouldn't actually recommend it, just something fun I tried.

Love the DC wall, especially that bottom row with Spectre, Hawkman and Atom. I would highly recommend picking up copies of B&B/SC 34 for Hawkman and The Atom's first app respectively. And if you need more room, just chuck the Marvel wall. No one cares about SA Marvel anyway. But seriously some awesome books, always love seeing people having these awesome SA DC keys.

Just a quick analyzation of this scene: The blue milk I assume is supposed to be a reference to the blue milk Aunt Beru pours in Episode 4, yes? If so is this movie trying to tell me that Aunt Beru intergalactically imports blue sea-lard milk from the most "unfindable" planet in the galaxy? I think not.

Not bad for $15. Low grade copies are pretty cheap even now. I'm thinking of picking up another copy if prices start to go up with the new TV show out. And hopefully I can find a copy of HOS 92 someday.