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The early Wings covers are some of the most dramatic GA aviation and air combat covers. Here's my most recent pick up. The black cover on this one is tough to find in high grade. The color is actually much deeper, but i'm using a phone cam scanner. sorry for the crappy pic

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Beautiful looking book Point Five, and a grading challenge. A similar book and defect was discussed earlier. This is a case where we need to be specific about what grade we are assigning: Overstreet or CGC grade. Missing pieces are a defect where these grading criteria diverge significantly. By Overstreet criteria, a missing cover piece places the book in a grade no higher than VG. However, CGC grades for the same defect have been assigned up to 6.0 for a 1/4" missing square piece and 5.5 and 5.0 for larger missing pieces. That piece looks to be just under 1" x 0.5" Overstreet technical grade: 3.5 - 4.0 CGC grade: 4.5 - 5.0 (looks like a 6.5 with two major defects)

Bump for more views and opinions. I honestly hope i'm wrong and this turns out to be a high grade book. It's always nice when fellow Boardies pick up a great high-grade key.

usually you can see distributor ink that heavy on both front and back covers. To me, it looks more like an ink spill. Someone had also previously mentioned that a CGC book was so heavily marked up by distributor ink that it actually took a grade hit and was mentioned as a defect in the notes. Would love for other Boardies to comment and share their experience. I agree that if it is considered dist. ink then it's likely to be more favorably graded, but would probably still take at least a small hit for the degree of spillover onto the cover.

i'd guess a press gets it solidly into a 7.5. 8.0 is a stretch, especially since it's a modern book

Huge water stain on front and back cover and likely some interior pages, as well as rusty staples with minor interior rust migration. one of the nicest 4.5's i've ever seen.

nice GA crime book. I see two 1/2 - 3/4" color breaking creases on the green title background and one on the bottom right corner, as well as two small areas of color loss on the green title background. Wear along the top edge and spine. minor spine roll as mentioned. mild to moderate tanning and dust shadows on the back cover. blunted corners. rough cut bottom corner pages may be a production defect. 6.0

the major defects here are 12 small color breaking spine creases, an approximately 1" spine crease on back cover and several smaller ones, bend in the bottom left back cover (if holding book upright), minor blunting of spine corners, minor foxing around the edges of the entire back cover, dents in the bottom and top of back cover, and waviness of the top of back cover. would benefit from a press. 7.0 - 7.5

Ouch, that big red stain on the top front cover on an otherwise nice book is just painful. Unfortunately, grading is very unforgiving for large stains/soiling/water damage. There's also minor foxing on the upper back cover just to be complete, but the stain is really the defining defect. Does the stain affect interior pages or just front cover? If it affects interior pages, the grade could take another 0.5 hit. 5.0

The defects I see are wrinkled left lower corner of spine (can't tell if it's a square bound production wrinkle or actual wear without a pic of the spine), back cover right upper corner looks like a wrinkle (could also be just foxing, can't tell at this resolution), very minor blunting of spine corners and bottom right corner, minor foxing /tanning on whites especially on front cover upper right corner, front right edge of book, and back cover upper corners and along spine 8.0 - 8.5 (more pictures, higher res, with better lighting may help to parse out a more precise grade)

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I purchased two nice Golden age books from Tim. Communication was great. Books were as described and as shown in the pics, great books! He does an amazing job with packing the books to ensure their safe travel, great attention to detail. My books arrived in Mylar bags, triple-boarded with a fullback board making the books virtually unbendable and ready for display right out of the box! Great seller!

Instead of retyping it, i'll refer you to this thread that discusses missing pieces and CGC grading. in a nutshell: CGC =/= Overstreet grading highest i've seen is 6.0 with about 1/4" piece missing on a GA book (pic courtesy of Thunsicker)

CGC's use of Green label (apparent grade with green label and noted defect) vs. Blue / Universal label (all defects account into grade) has been a bit of a puzzle to many. Some people have stated you can specifically request to have your defect factored into a blue label grade (many have stated this is untrue). Some have stated that only very high grade books generally get a green label (also untrue, see below). Given the desirability of the blue label, i'd think that if it were actually possible, most if not all submitters would request the Blue label with the grade hit. There is one example that may shed some light on the Green vs Blue label decision. Ms. Marvel #1 is a book that had a large number of known bindery defects where one of the staples would be popped from the cover at the bindery or soon after. Thus there were a large number of near mint copies that shipped and were sold with the known defect. This is recognized at CGC and MANY copies of Ms. Marvel #1 that are otherwise in the NM grade but have the defect are given the Green label noting the staple defect. HOWEVER, there are also quite a few Ms. Marvel #1 copies that are mid grade with a Green label. Perhaps because this is a known bindery defect that occurred on a relatively large scale that even mid grades with a popped staple get the Green label? See the Ebay link below (hope it works, or just do advanced search for "Ms. Marvel #1 qualified" and check the "sold listings" box) for the MANY sold copies with Green label and the staple defect. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=ms+marvel+%231+qualified&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=06901&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_sop=13&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&LH_Complete=1&_fosrp=1 As others in the thread have noted, the OP's Batman 232 and the IH 180 above have staple tears around the pull, suggesting that the staple pull was due to reader wear and not a bindery defect. Bindery staple pops occur when the stapler hits the book with too much force, thus making the staple body (the flat part of the staple you see on the spine) punch clean through the cover (and sometimes the first and second wraps, which is also indicated on a few of the Ms. Marvel #1 Qualified copies) and leaving little to no staple tears or stress lines.