Jaywalker0

I predominantly submit bronze/copper age books with smattering of others from 2000s. From what I'm seeing return on books with much more variance (8.5-9.6 range) it appears the grading is tightening up from a technical perspective. Less allowance for subjective wiggle room, like "yeah it's technically a 9.6 but looks better than the last 5 I saw, so curving up." Absolutely nothing to base that on but my own experience on lower quality books. But since TATs have sped up a little bit, my guess is we have a bunch of trainee graders set loose who are very by the book and aren't allowed to have a professional opinion that deviates far from whatever checklists they use. With that in mind, my expectations are set appropriately for new subs.

I would like to join the grading contest, space permitting.

Dates are immaterial, but Bagley book w/remarque went to Grading yesterday and SHIPPED today. (no CCS)

1x Bagley moved to G/E/I this afternoon. No pressing service.

TAT seems to be accelerating a bit. Definitely seems to be completed in a 48 hr window of time or so once an order goes to grading status. 24x Modern (no extra services) Delivered: 11/23 Rcvd: 11/29 SFG: 11/29 G/E/I: 3/25 QC: 3/25 Shipped: 3/28 3x Standard (no extra services) Delivered: 3/2 Rcvd: 3/17 SFG: 3/17 G/E/I: 3/24 QC: 3/25 Shipped: 3/28

They've been routinely shipping next day for a while. Can't remember last time I've had a same day shipped even when marked as such first thing in morning. Too many orders on the loading dock waiting to go out.

Keep the faith. I routinely see books hit predictable intermediate steps & hubs on way to Sarasota. Month ago, i saw one left local USPS where dropped off then NOTHING for days. Enough, no updates, time had passed I submitted a missing package search. Two days later it popped up in Pensacola regional hub and made it to CGC next day. This was a 2Day priority package. I think it got sorted as Media or Parcel ground service and missed a scanning step (or two) but it made it there fine.

At this point you can discuss your books like a wine vintage.... "Ah, 2021 submission. A wetter harvest that led to a piquant finish."

Yikes! Unless you opted for CCS pressing beforehand, that makes no sense. For reference, I've had everything "Received" by CGC up through 11/8 graded and shipped. Includes 3x Sept, 2x Oct, and 2x Nov orders so far.

I used to have to do what @Stefan_Wand @Tnexus suggested, which is hold at local distribution hub for a Will Call pickup since I was never home. Then had delivered to work a few times until TAT got so long I was like "what if I'm fired?" Then I stumbled upon the real fix! Rent a mailbox service. Yeah it can be $200-400 a year, but someone is always there to sign for packages and they hold till I pick up and it works for anything I online order. Never again have I received damage to comics crammed in mailbox or stuff stolen from porch. Very, very handy and worth it. Bear in mind, you want Mailbox, NOT PO Box - since PO Box will only accept USPS. Mailbox service accepts from all carriers. Look for mailbox rental at UPS Store, Mailbox+, or similiar. Good luck

Had a batch of books ~1yr ago,the middle 4 of about 8 had same, small corner crush. Almost as if the batch was picked up and middle fell out. Only two were worth fixing, let the others ride. So is it rare? Exceedingly, but still possible damage en route or once in hand despite best case efforts.

Which would definitely seem to be the case with pressing. like once they come back from CCS, consensus seems to be that those don't wait the normal grading period non-press gets. Like they line jump somewhat.

Based on last couple years experience and feedback in this thread,I think I've reversed engineered internal processes that make most sense as to why TATs are so weird. I believe that once books are SFG, they are assigned to a specific grader or queue a grader works from. Back in the day when books were RCVD, waited, then went SFG - it made it more predictable. Now they are SFG as soon as opened, it introduces more time for scheduling weirdness to happen. Case in point: Your books assigned to Grader A, mine arrived two weeks later but assigned to Grader B. Over next few weeks, Grader A could go on vacation or have extended illness. Grader A could also be training which slows him down as he explains processes and such. Since it's not true FIFO workflow but for how it goes thru the assigned guy, my books are completed before yours due to your assigned Grader's schedule. We know MAGAZINE is weird due to equipment. They may be graded, but only slabbing like 2 days a month. If your graded magazine isn't slabbed then, it has to wait till next month's window. I think VALUE/ECONOMY is similar. Like they arent graded throughout, but once a month some dedicated group is set to work on just ECONOMY for a couple days which is why TATs can drop precipitously, then go back up just as fast and some "beat" TAT by a lot or wait a full month longer than estimated. FAST TRACK is weird and I can't explain readily. Maybe it's a couple grader's dedicated to just FAST and it's a shorter queue. Or just as likely, when FAST TRACK is checked in, they assume the period of time that tier has jumped and stuff it into middle of group of comics checked in couple months ago instead of back of line. Since that implies it's arbitrarily being put into middle of line, could explain why mine beat yours despite arriving after. The thing that blows up all of above is the warp speed lottery when books get shuffled to second facility or new grader/shorter work queue that has then flipped inside couple weeks. That's a true "no rhyme or reason." Anyway, that's what I picture. While our books checked in same day, Your books beat mine because my assigned grader had weird schedule that put him behind on his assignments.

I'm down for that and totally respect! So far, I only grade books of "value" usually monetary to some degree, for insurance and resell/trade leverage for better collection pieces. But when I'm slow submitting, I think of sending in some of my own $1 bin castoffs from PC because I don't display my valuable books - too worried about UV & theft. But would have no prob displaying some graded $1 bin books because I love cover and/or sentimental value.

7x Modern Fast Track (no addl services) Delivered: 1/28 Rcvd: 2/3 SFG: 2/3 G/E/I: 2/22 QC: 2/23 Shipped: 2/28 Charged: 2/16 Pleased it was so quick, like I got my money's worth choosing Fast Track, but still so bizarre how willy-nilly their prioritization seems to be.

Don't understand your sub#. I track historically and closest I have is a 214.... delivered June 2020 then jumped to a 370.... for delivered August 2020. So almost two years old.

It's been over 3 years since I used CCS, but your submission page should (or did) update with a new Received date, since CGC "received" from CCS. Making orders magically reappear at top of list.

Still waiting from June? Wow, were these Modern slow track or get CCS pressing too?

Couple of long term subs shipped recently. I think it's interesting they effectively posted grades and shipped same day even though they were checked in 2 weeks apart and graded 2 weeks apart. It would appear that some of the delay is waiting to actually be slabbed. 11x Modern (no addl services) Delivered: 9/14 Rcvd: 9/14 SFG: 9/14 G/E/I: 1/18 Graded: 1/19 QC: 2/10 Shipped: 2/10 Charged: 10/5 5x Modern (no addl services Delivered: 10/1 Rcvd: 10/5 SFG: 10/5 G/E/I: 2/3 Graded: 2/3 QC: 2/10 Shipped: 2/10 Charged: 10/7

I don't think so. My one experience with that was a surprise 9.8 that bumped a book to Express tier (from original modern). They informed me of price adjustment, but did not delist the book from original order and they all shipped together. More importantly, this happened during grading. While in holding purgatory, all books were checked in together like nothing different was happening. @Troy Division says the 2 weren't even checked in with the other 8. Aside from something bad, like gone missing, I can only imagine that would happen if the two were pre-75 and being relisted as Economy. But that also sounds like a big sub mistake he *wouldn't* have made.

You mean your submission slip & package had like 10 comics, but when they were checked in, they only listed 8? Have never had that happen.

How do you mess that up? The order form has a barcode! Just scan, pull up acct/order form and make sure books on list match what's in sub

No August sounds right because I had a Rcvd 9/8 ship 1/18 and a Rcvd 9/14 moved to grading status about a week ago

All of the above is why I go 3rd party. Extra shipping to bounce from press to CGC is usually equal/ less considering cheaper rates over CCS or intangibles of time saved and fact I'm kept in loop. Value of getting info like, precise wait/processing, pictures, or heads up about X problem I may have missed is incalcuable compared to CGC black box. But absolutely don't fault anyone's CCS loyalty. My $0.02.

7x Modern, no addl services: Delivered: 9/7 Rcvd: 9/7 SFG: 9/8 Charged: 9/9 G/E/I: 1/10 QC: 1/17 Shipped: 1/18 TAT - 90biz days or 136 calendar days, which seems in line or better than posted TAT at arrival during tail end of summer avalanche. Seems like TAT posted is estimating calendar days?