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I agree with a lot of this, but that's why I think it's probably priced about right - since a 4.0 181 is about the same as a 9.8 UF4 currently. Maybe UF4 is a bit high based on future potential, maybe not. But I still think that when UF4 hits 30-40 years old, the current price will look like a deal, the same way prices of Hulk 181 from 20 years ago look like a deal now. For what it's worth, I don't have a 9.8 UF4, and I don't own a 181 at all (wish I did). I bought a 9.2 UF4 because I wanted in to that book. I paid $650, and not too long after I bought it, 9.2s were selling for less than $600. But the last two 9.2s sold on ebay for $1,081 and $950. Either way, I see this as a long-term hold, and it's a gamble I'm willing to take based on the perceived potential.

I couldn't find the Hulk 181 print run estimates, but I did find estimates for the time-frame of ASM 300 (which has a 9.8 that sells for around $5k). Estimates on that would be around 275,000-285,000: https://www.comichron.com/titlespotlights/amazingspiderman.html The estimated print run for all first print Ultimate Fallout 4 copies (cover A plus the variant) is around 93,000 copies: https://www.comichron.com/faq/ultimatefallout4sales.html So just the amount printed of UF4 is less than half of ASM 300. ASM copies in the 1960s were in the 300K range printed per issue. Even if you estimate 1/3 of that for Hulk 181, that's still more copies printed than UF4. Of course you have to consider that people in the 60s didn't take care of their comics compared to people in the 2010s, but still, even a 4.0 181 sells for higher than a 9.8 UF4. Miles has a lot of future potential. And I've noted before that most heroes are known by their hero name - Batman, Spider-Man, Superman. People know who their alter-ego is of course, but they're not often marketed as Bruce Wayne or Clark Kent. Miles is often marketed as "Miles Morales: Spider-man." There's a new generation who will connect to that marketing and connect to Miles as an Afro-Latino icon. That all has big potential down the road.

Good luck with the trade!

Ah yeah, I agree with that - but in this case, it looks like it was 8 consecutive copies/submissions likely to the same submitter. Absolutely I could see it happening if some poor guy bought a scam copy on eBay for like $500 and submitted that one copy thinking it was the real deal, and then got it back mislabeled. But if it's 8 copies to one submitter like it seems in this case, then yeah, it was a bad mistake by CGC but the submitter took big advantage of that mistake, and that's on them.

I respectfully disagree, especially if they came from the same submission. Because to exonerate the submitter/seller, that would mean either someone bought 8 copies of this book for around $3-5 each, submitted them, got them back and thought, wow! I hit the lottery! Or they paid somewhere between $4,000-8,000 (or more) for 8 copies of a facsimile without realizing what they were spending that money on and submitted them as real. Either scenario seems unlikely.

I still want to see pics! I don't mean that to sound like I don't believe you or something; I do - I just think it'd be really cool to see these. I totally understand if you wouldn't want to post public pics of the books, but if you have no problem with it and you get a chance, that would be really cool!

I agree with this 100%. It's been said before in this thread, but this specific facsimile was the perfect target for scammers because of just how close it was to the real deal. Yes, it's unfortunate that CGC mislabeled it, and that's on them, but there's no doubt in my mind that the person submitting it got these back and saw an opportunity for a scam - they're the ones who should bear the responsibility on this. If my bank deposits a wrong amount in my checking account, it's not my money. It's their mistake, true, but if I try to capitalize on it even though I know it's wrong and it was a mix up, then I become the one responsible.

Just my 2 cents - just doing some quick comps on eBay, I don't think the $550 is too far off, and it may actually be in your favor. For the raws, you're probably in the $80-90 range (maybe a little higher if they're NM) based on recent sales, and for the slabs, the #6 is probably the best one and a 9.2 recently sold for $80 and a 9.6 for $140. So let's call it $120 on the raws to give the benefit of the doubt on the 9.0s and you can sell them at the high end; $110 on the #6 and going down from there. so that's $230 across half the books, and I'd say the other 4 slabs are maybe $225-250 total. This is before any fees regardless of where you sell them. I think you're ahead at $550. Are you able to say what you're trading for? That might give a better idea. But in general, I think you're doing fine at $550.

Popped into an LCS yesterday when I was in town for work. They had a full stack of TMNT 127 still, so I grabbed one. The other surprise (based on recent hype) was a big stack of Strange Academy 16 - cover A. I found one cover B stuck in the stack too. I grabbed the B and one A, guess I should have bought a couple...

In earlier versions of the Superfriends cartoon, she did have the eagle costume, but yours looks a bit different. Here's a breakdown of her costume changes: https://filmdaily.co/obsessions/how-wonder-womans-costume-changed/

Another one - made an offer, I accepted, then I got a cancellation request: "found a better price." Stop wasting people's time. Here's the user - kyhar_2835

Yeah, I preordered knowing that, but the FOMO is real. And I'm talking 3 copies, so it was worth a shot.

Yeah, that's true about the 1:500s for sure. I'd be interested to see what goes on with issue #3 as well; it's not crazy money but it's like a $10-15 book, wonder if that'll dip based on that info.

Well this unfortunately probably doesn't bode well: https://www.ebay.com/itm/203800074701?hash=item2f736e59cd:g:kncAAOSwGuViWxfs 633 sold and 1,367 available at $3.19 each from one single seller on eBay still. I pre-ordered a couple of copies of this book, but the orders must be enormous on this one.

Went back home for Easter, and found a couple more comics lurking in my parents' basement - couple of my dad's and a couple of mine. Nothing crazy unfortunately, but I took 'em anyway. These are the best of what was there - the rest was a decent-sized stack of old Archie titles in varying condition:

this one too.

Ha! I hoped so! 😁

I was a little surprised, believe it or not I bought it from Bry's Comics (he has a Youtube channel and actually a decent website). He had a bunch of new stuff for sale, and this one felt like a deal to me - the site noted all the other newsstands they had for sale, but this one wasn't noted as a newsstand, just had a photo. I bought my TMNT 3 9.2 CGC from his site last year too. I'm not shilling for him or anything, but I will say I got fast shipping and good deals on the two purchases, with zero hassle.

Thanks! Like to add a newsstand notation? Nah, probably not - I may have thought about it if it looked like the grade could be upgraded. It was a $40 impulse pickup; I've seen ungraded newsstands of this book sell for more. It's definitely a nice one, but it's too bad about the upper right corner, which I'm sure is what knocked it to a 9.2, otherwise it's an outstanding copy. Funny enough, it's my second newsstand of this book - I found a raw probably 8.0-8.5 at a con a few months ago for cheap as well.

$40 impulse buy. I love this cover, and I figured $40 for a graded newsstand was a good deal, even in a 9.2...