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So the other "catch" would be to find the 181 that was originally graded 7.5 out in the wild again in a new holder? Since this is what he does, yes? He takes the good book and slides the green label book into the blue label case. Then gets the original graded again. I guess there are 1000s of 181s. Hard to look at them all and see if you find another one with those characteristics. But if you can just look at the submissions from that particular person maybe?

What does it mean that the book that was graded with a green label sold? How do you sell it, and then sub it into a blue label? I think I am missing a step.

I just looked outside, and, it was! Wow. Thank you so much! Can't wait to open them!

I ain't doin a form until I know where I'm pickin

Maybe this guy currently has a submission at CGC! Maybe they are taking a closer look at that one this time!

It's possible he has peeps that do that for him. Delete anything negative and he might never see it himself. Then gives him deniability about seeing/deleting negative comments.

This is where he buys a lower grade book (the 9.6 in this case) and then re-subs it into a 9.8 case that he already has. Now he sells the 9.6 as a 9.8 and still has another raw 9.8 that he can presumably get graded again, and then...do it again?

If it was a re-sub wouldn't it keep the same number? And if you're saying, well, he could have cracked it out and re-submitted it legitimately just hoping for a better grade...remember who we are talking about now?

I do not think they will (get hit with a flurry of lawsuits, that is)

I do think CGC kind of owes it to the community to disclose all the books that this particular submitter sent in over whatever period of time we are talking about. And then maybe offer a "free" service to "check" the validity of the books inside the cases. Not the number grade, per se, since that's so subjective anyway. But for things like restoration/value stamps, etc. There's no way they will be compensating people for improperly labeled books though.

I mean, maybe? A professional scammer though - which this guy seems to be - is not going to be using his own personal name/address for his business transactions. He's going to be using his business/a P.O. Box, etc.

So, again, as far as any liability is concerned, the only way anything happens is if - for example - the guy who bought the blue label Hulk "9.0." which was originally a "qualified 8.5" was to attempt to bring charges against the guy who sold him the book. He could theoretically do this because of someone fraudulently selling him what was, essentially, a fake. Problem for him right now is, he has no idea who this guy is. Guy has an ebay account. Maybe an Instagram account. Things which are anonymous and easily changed. Guy probably also lives in a completely different State from him. CGC, however, has this information. CGC presumably knows exactly who this person is, and has their actual name/address/contact information. Ebay might as well, I suppose. CGC has to disclose this info. before anything criminal could even begin to happen, I think. Which they probably won't do unless they get a subpoena from a Court.

I mean, if your larger point is that the guy is unlikely to be charged criminally because (a) it's comic book fraud and/or (b) some kinds of fraud are harder to "prove" than others, I would not disagree. It is unlikely this guy gets criminally prosecuted for this. That does not mean he has not committed fraud and that it is not actually a crime. To your points: (1) If you crack/press/resubmit then I agree this is not fraud. This is gambling. (2) If you sent in a comic with a missing MVS and you knew the MVS was missing when you sent it in, but CGC didn't catch it. You later sell the book without disclosing the defect. You have committed fraud. You cannot - legally - claim that "CGC graded this and they gave it a Blue label so it's not on me that they missed the defect. Do you get prosecuted for this? Almost certainly not. Again, it's the knowledge part that is virtually impossible to prove. How do we "prove" that you knew the MVS was missing? Unless you are on tape admitting it somewhere, that's not a case a DA is going to bother trying to make. (3) If you have cracked a CGC case and slipped in a different book, and then you sell the different book as though it was the old one, you have committed fraud. This isn't really debatable. The fact you slipped your fraud past CGC does not validate it. Proving you did this, however, could be a pain and not worth a prosecutor's time.

You do not seem to understand what constitutes the fraud here. This is saying that if you defraud someone and get away with it, it's not your fault because the person you defrauded didn't catch it.... Hey man, you had every opportunity to catch me, and you didn't. Not my fault?

Wishing you a very safe and speedy recovery.

To clarify, I thought that before it actually was released and before I saw it. Was kind of a pre-release prediction. Same way this Aquaman thing is a pre-release prediction. Not that I have actually made a prediction for Aquaman beyond "not as big as the first one," which isn't much of a prediction at all. Guess I will throw down an official guess now, and I will guess - given the way DC films have been tanking and the complete lack of enthusiasm - that it might get to $400m WW, maybe closer to $500m if it's actually good.

I think it's possible. He's a genuine talent. But it will probably require some self-reflection and commitment to change that he hasn't shown he's willing to do yet. If he sticks with "I'm the victim here. I didn't do anything wrong, she's just a liar and the world is out to get me," then he probably won't be working for a while.

I realize this post is over a month old, but, you seem confused. This is not the all-female Ghostbusters re-boot which had nothing to do with the original movies. This is a legacy sequel which returns the members of the original cast, along with a new, younger group. No gender/race swapping present.

yeah, seems like King has really gotten into this whole expanded universe thing as well, with characters crossing over more and more frequently. Since I'm watching 11/22/63 now, I remember when I was reading it and then freaking Ritchie and Beverly from It showed up? Like, what? I assume they will not cameo in the TV show since it would make even less sense.

You know Holly was in the Outsider as well, right?

As it happens, I'm watching this right now! (because I got the "Hulu" for a year for $12 thing) It's pretty good! Other Stephen King adaptations are so very, very hit-or-miss for me, but I felt most of the early horror movies were a miss. Cujo? Christine? Firestarter? Silver Bullet? Eh. Sleepwalkers remains one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Along with Dreamcatcher - what an absolute mess of a film. Even some of the "acclaimed" ones, like The Shining I felt were kind of "meh." Carrie, I have never seen all the way through, just in pieces, but including some of the "big" scenes. I have also never seen The Dead Zone, except for the ending scene.... Seems like some of the not-pure-horror ones tend to adapt better, such as Shawshank, Stand by Me and The Green Mile. Other favorites would be: Misery The Outsider (HBO adaptation) It (the recent films, not the old TV mini-series, which had it's moments, and also Tim Curry, but was still kind of bad). I won't call it a favorite, but the original Pet Sematary was legit scary. I also respect The Mist, though it's way too bleak for my tastes. I am looking forward to watching the Mr. Mercedes adaptation (since I also got the Black Friday Peacock deal. I am a sucker for streaming services BF deals).

I have been in the 50's both times I have done this. And yet! Still got cool stuff!

This theory hinges on the seller either (1) having a way to crack an existing slab, replace a book and seal it again well enough to fool CGC, or (2) the seller being a CGC employee who is swapping out books on site? That right?

Generally speaking and most commonly, it's someone who won't shut up. But 15 counts is extreme by any measure.

I was looking at this, but I guess this isn't strictly Phase 5? That started with Ant Man?