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On 1/4/2024 at 8:47 PM, NewWorldOrder said:

Roy is my arch enemy.

I yell at him at least 2 a year.

In between 6 month suspensions.

On 1/4/2024 at 6:50 PM, NewWorldOrder said:

How much less % do you now feel they are worth?  ball park guess

On 1/4/2024 at 6:46 PM, BrashL said:

Ok I’m curious so I’ll bite. Yes my slabs are now worth less. Now what happens?

On 1/1/2024 at 8:12 PM, THE_BEYONDER said:

 

That's so wrong.

On 1/1/2024 at 8:10 PM, Bo1983 said:

Okay slab shill!

I'm also the guy that cuts out the MVSs and sends just those to CGC for grading. I throw the books away.

On 1/1/2024 at 6:34 PM, Bo1983 said:

Hulk 180 is Wolverine’s first appearance anyway and if he was on the cover with only one panel in the book nobody would be talking about 181!

I'll take first cover appearance over first appearance 9 out of 10 times anyway.

I want... perfection.

I only watch youtubers if they are flipping through comic books.

On 12/30/2023 at 9:38 AM, sledgehammer said:

It took some time, but I finally spotted what is in my mind, an absolute connection between a major submitter and the two names that I believe are involved with the various ebay seller IDs.

Another boardie and I have been bouncing things back and forth for many days.  @Heronext

I've made a video and took photos, of the wife of this submitter's facebook page. Just in case it is made private later.

That facebook page shows a comment from someone named Bree.

The search that I made much earlier for that name, shows someone that has lived in 3 cities, all relevant to this, including Kew Gardens NY

That search shows one of the people connected to that name, as having a name that contains the letters ZANE, which is part of the ebay ID Zaneglor..

An online search of that man, shows a woman in his family, with a name that contains GLOR.  In AZ. He also lived in Kew Gardens.

An online google search of his name, shows at one point, a comment made on facebook by his name, and right next to it, shows a comment by that same BREE name.

On the submitter's wife's facebook page, a friend of hers and her submitter husband, that BREE name, says "thanks for inviting us!"

I'm not going to call out that major submitter here, and ask for a response. It's completely feasible that he is not involved

I don't know if this info would be helpful to CGC, or not. I think it would be appropriate to ask for clarification on this, from the submitter.

@CGC Mike

 

Can you share your video? I'd love to see the details.

On 12/29/2023 at 10:44 AM, Vince G said:

Excuse my ignorance here.  I haven't submitted anything to CGC in the past five years so I'm sure things have changed, but didn't they do a check and possibly regrade a book when it came in for reholdering?  I distinctly recall having conversations with other collectors on the topic of reholdering and some were always hesitant about sending certain books in for reholdering fearing they'd risk receiving lower grades.

Have CGC practices changed?  Or is it true that a reholder never initiated a check on the book in the case?

Thanks, guys.

Was wondering this myself as I submitted two books earlier this year for reholder and was warned about the possibility of a grade drop. Both books were 9.8 White pages but were in the Gen 1 holders and I wanted to upgrade. They both came back 9.8 white so who knows if they were really regraded. Honest opinion is that both books deserve the 9.8. I am pretty sure CGC had to change the inner wells though because I believe I read that the Gen 1 inner well would not work with the new outer well. Sorry this doesn't answer the question but I think we can infer that CGC is not always concerned with regrading when the reholders get backlogged.

The owner of my LCS recently sent a TMNT #1 first print to CGC for grading. When it came back, he was so excited, I was one of the first people he showed. Upon picking up the slab, it fell apart in my hands. I thought he was playing a gag on me but he wasn't. CGC had completely missed the snap and seal portion of the encapsulation. He ended up sending back for a reholder but if he had a lower grade copy of TMNT #1 graded, I guess this would have been an opportunity for fraud. So regardless of what the conclusion is, the number of fraudulent slabs out there will be higher than what is announced.

If the damn label was sealed to the inner well with the cert # etched on it, the outer well is really an optional feature for added protection. I could see many collectors wanting to remove the outer wells for purposes of storage and saving space. Let's just start doing this CGC.

On 12/27/2023 at 2:53 PM, skybolt said:

Join the club. Hahaha.

I don't see any Newsstands...

On 12/27/2023 at 2:31 PM, lostboys said:

Not joking.

 

I planned on buying a ASM 129 in  the 9.0 - 9.2 range when my income tax refund came.

 

Not anymore.

I had a similar idea (just a few grades lower) a couple months back but opted to buy raw, had a C&P and submitted to CGC myself.

On 12/27/2023 at 12:24 PM, Dr. Balls said:

Someone else out there who likes this book! I've got a 9.8 sitting on my shelf just because I like the cover.

One of my earliest tattoos too! Although I told the artist to give Illyanna blue hair. 

On 12/27/2023 at 12:08 PM, Steven Valdez said:

So.... who's planning on submitting their books for grading or buying any slabbed books in 2024?

I like to buy raw books and submit myself. I'll continue to do that. I rarely buy already graded but for those 9.8s that I purchased already slabbed, I feel safe as they are not targeted keys. I'm talking Mage 6, Justice Machine Annual 1, Magik 4 and Veronica 28. I really doubt someone messed with these. 

On 12/26/2023 at 11:41 AM, badback83 said:

Not that it really matters much, but for the people who are following along with the Youtube crowd, StickyGoose doesn't think there is a scam.  

Then maybe StickyGoose playing with his sonic welder too close to his ears and eyes.

On 12/24/2023 at 9:13 PM, NoMan said:

also: why is the Submariner always so angry?

He has another pair of wings besides the ones on his feet and more than his ears are pointy.

Wow! This is what page 108 looks like. 

Anyways, I brought this up early but I'm still of the mindset that the fraudster has access to CGC outer wells. Even if a case of these fell off a truck that could mean problems for the community. I just don't know enough about this sonic welding stuff but I would think that would be something a fraudster could duplicate if desired?

I know this thread took many turns with may clues but I want to know more about the security of CGC encapsulation supplies and how easily these can be "acquired".

On 12/23/2023 at 9:38 PM, sledgehammer said:

Kew Gardens NY, Scottsdale AZ and Jackson NJ

His previous locations are a perfect match with the ebay seller history documented.

I was just in Jackson NJ last night...

On 12/22/2023 at 6:57 PM, Buzzetta said:

 

This should be on the Comic Grading for Fraudsters homepage.