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We knew this on October 8th. Don't rely on CHU for late-breaking news. . Well, "we" didn't, otherwise I wouldn't have posted it. Unfortunately, not everyone has been around here as long. No reason to post comments like that and I see them all the time. This is one of the nastiest collector communities on the internet....

I'm pretty sure this reboot is for all the potential new-blood that has been pouring into comicons lately. They have now idea where to begin. Now they do. I loved all five of today's offerings personally. Ant Man was just fantastic ( I loved Superior Foes a bit too much )

Do you work for that website ? Are you selling the comic on Ebay ? I see no reason for the comic to sell that high. Sorry I was away for work. I think I made it pretty clear i sold a couple of copies as stated above, should have held out though I could have sold for higher prices. All my copies were gone by the time I posted. So I must work for a website because I quoted it? I can say that I go there a lot and get some good tips. I also come here and get good tips but do not work for CGC. I could say that for a ton of sites I go to and could have quoted, just happened to be the one I got the info from. Do not understand the harshness of the comments directed towards me for putting up something that may have been of interest to some on here. Do not understand the harshness of the comments Snicker... These boards harbor vindictive lunatics.

Sandman, Preacher, Hellblazer and a slew of other Vertigo titles that attracted adult readers of every age and gender were weak? Yeah sure Larry's stating 'generally' makes his comment accurate. And "Lonzilla" cited four examples for a decade of publishing.

guess which shop variant is going to be the hot one I always buy the one I like best.... I'm not buying your "Not only does it confuse people, it saturates the market" logic... Example: Black Mask keeps churning out WCNGH show variants Nobody's confused. The market's not saturated. You guys are lapping it up. If the same books were printed for a shop.... You'd be confused & market saturated. Anyway... The market will correct itself. Cream rises to the top. In each case the best looking / most limited books are the ones that will win. Your example says it all. BLACK MASK is churning out variants. Most of us would much rather support the creative team than someone looking for nothing more than a pay day. The market is the market. The only possible reason you state the market will correct itself is probably due to a loss of interest on your variants in hopes to bring some sales back. You know your variants, the ones that will be similarly compared to the 90's drek we so ill speak of. And no Larry, I have not been burned on retailer variants. Not in the least. I just feel the over priced cash grab on retailer variants out of the gate is seriously hurting the stability of the industry. It's one thing if the market sets itself, but for the retailer to do it knowing it will hurt the collectors in the long haul or have them walk away is another. Most of us would much rather support the creative team than someone looking for nothing more than a pay day . Where do you think the books come from? We buy them from the creative team. In volume. So by your logic, unless you purchase a comic directly from the creator you're not supporting them?! Hilarious. You missed the point. Not surprising. You are a middle man with his hand out as he sets the market value. You are not an employee of a publisher or a creator of the books whom I'd rather support. The shops IMO that keep it classy that offer a retailer variant for fun, to create buzz for the title, make a small profit is one thing. Not the likes of you who create small print runs (unverified how many you actually print) just to gouge collectors. Just my opinion but I feel doing this is horrible for the industry and screams greed. You can peddle your know it all nonsense and books all you want. All I see it as is pathetic. The real winners sell themselves. Wasn't some of the above stated points led or helped lead to the 90's bottoming out of the market? Variants upon variants printed up before and after the first printings as "collector's items" Only difference between then and now is overprinting became the norm, collectors stopped buying as well as the speculators. The same gimmicks were used then to sell the variants then as now albeit less hologram & metallic ink covers still I am concerned about the future here. Am I the only one who has noticed last 9 months plus nothing stays or gets remotely hot at all even with a media announcement? In the 90's the content was generally weak. The customer base was very narrow. Males 18-40 Publishers were creating variant covers for themselves to distribute. *mostly. Today, IMHO content is as strong as it's ever been. The customer base is diverse as it's ever been. Publishers are selling variant covers to shops. Smart retailers chose books with content they think might have legs. This ain't the nineties.

guess which shop variant is going to be the hot one I always buy the one I like best.... I'm not buying your "Not only does it confuse people, it saturates the market" logic... Example: Black Mask keeps churning out WCNGH show variants Nobody's confused. The market's not saturated. You guys are lapping it up. If the same books were printed for a shop.... You'd be confused & market saturated. Anyway... The market will correct itself. Cream rises to the top. In each case the best looking / most limited books are the ones that will win. Your example says it all. BLACK MASK is churning out variants. Most of us would much rather support the creative team than someone looking for nothing more than a pay day. The market is the market. The only possible reason you state the market will correct itself is probably due to a loss of interest on your variants in hopes to bring some sales back. You know your variants, the ones that will be similarly compared to the 90's drek we so ill speak of. And no Larry, I have not been burned on retailer variants. Not in the least. I just feel the over priced cash grab on retailer variants out of the gate is seriously hurting the stability of the industry. It's one thing if the market sets itself, but for the retailer to do it knowing it will hurt the collectors in the long haul or have them walk away is another. Most of us would much rather support the creative team than someone looking for nothing more than a pay day . Where do you think the books come from? We buy them from the creative team. In volume. So by your logic, unless you purchase a comic directly from the creator you're not supporting them?! Hilarious. You missed the point. Not surprising. You are a middle man with his hand out as he sets the market value. You are not an employee of a publisher or a creator of the books whom I'd rather support. The shops IMO that keep it classy that offer a retailer variant for fun, to create buzz for the title, make a small profit is one thing. Not the likes of you who create small print runs (unverified how many you actually print) just to gouge collectors. Just my opinion but I feel doing this is horrible for the industry and screams greed. You can peddle your know it all nonsense and books all you want. All I see it as is pathetic. The real winners sell themselves. Every shop is a "middle man." And shops are in business to sell books. Generally they're not there to advertise books, unless the end goal is to sell more of those books. A good shop of course will promote books to their customers that they think their customers will like, because they want their customer to be happy, which keeps them coming back to buy more books. Making a buck doesn't *necessarily* make one a bad guy. A shop that distributes books from Diamond is not part of the discussion. Everyone is well aware they are open for the business of making sales. This is about certain retailer variants. What defines a bad guy? Trolling? Gouging collectors by setting the market value? This? http://graphicpolicy.com/2012/10/18/larry-doherty-and-larrys-comics-at-it-again-this-time-hate-speech-towards-transgenders/ Maybe this? http://southern4life.blogspot.com/2011/08/ignorant-fool-alert-larry-doherty-of.html Yeah, everyone will run to buy up Phantoms when the "market corrects itself". A shop that distributes books from Diamond is not part of the discussion 99.99% of my comics come from my primary supplier: Diamond Comics, Inc. Sooo, are we good here? You missed the point. Not surprising. The mere fact that you start with an insulting, inflammatory comment speaks volumes. You've got an axe to grind. Common trolling tactics. You are a middle man Yes. I represent publishers & creators products to the end user. I'm the middle link in the supply chain. It's my job. Hardly a secret. with his hand out as he sets the market value. Cover price in my shop. That price is set by the publisher / creator. They decide the retail value of their product. The 'market" determines if that is high or low. You are not an employee of a publisher or a creator of the books whom I'd rather support. This is where you really let your crazy flag fly. Honestly, you can support a publisher or creator buck naked from your couch by making a purchase on Amazon. You don't have to give them the money in person to be a supporter. Honest. The shops IMO that keep it classy that offer a retailer variant for fun I've produced variants for fun & given many away Free for events but; that's hardly a viable long term business model. This is my shops 28th year in business & I think I've got 28 more in me... to create buzz for the title, Ask the creators & publisher I work with if I create buzz. Go ahead. Ask. ( you're NOT going to like what you hear ) make a small profit is one thing. Not the likes of you who create small print runs (unverified how many you actually print) just to gouge collectors. Just my opinion but I feel doing this is horrible for the industry and screams greed. You can peddle your know it all nonsense and books all you want. All I see it as is pathetic. The real winners sell themselves There goes that crazy flag again. I think you might need to go take your medication. *block engaged* We shall never speak again. Chumplestilsken.

guess which shop variant is going to be the hot one I always buy the one I like best.... I'm not buying your "Not only does it confuse people, it saturates the market" logic... Example: Black Mask keeps churning out WCNGH show variants Nobody's confused. The market's not saturated. You guys are lapping it up. If the same books were printed for a shop.... You'd be confused & market saturated. Anyway... The market will correct itself. Cream rises to the top. In each case the best looking / most limited books are the ones that will win. Your example says it all. BLACK MASK is churning out variants. Most of us would much rather support the creative team than someone looking for nothing more than a pay day. The market is the market. The only possible reason you state the market will correct itself is probably due to a loss of interest on your variants in hopes to bring some sales back. You know your variants, the ones that will be similarly compared to the 90's drek we so ill speak of. And no Larry, I have not been burned on retailer variants. Not in the least. I just feel the over priced cash grab on retailer variants out of the gate is seriously hurting the stability of the industry. It's one thing if the market sets itself, but for the retailer to do it knowing it will hurt the collectors in the long haul or have them walk away is another. Most of us would much rather support the creative team than someone looking for nothing more than a pay day . Where do you think the books come from? We buy them from the creative team. In volume. So by your logic, unless you purchase a comic directly from the creator you're not supporting them?! Hilarious. You missed the point. Not surprising. You are a middle man with his hand out as he sets the market value. You are not an employee of a publisher or a creator of the books whom I'd rather support. The shops IMO that keep it classy that offer a retailer variant for fun, to create buzz for the title, make a small profit is one thing. Not the likes of you who create small print runs (unverified how many you actually print) just to gouge collectors. Just my opinion but I feel doing this is horrible for the industry and screams greed. You can peddle your know it all nonsense and books all you want. All I see it as is pathetic. The real winners sell themselves. Every shop is a "middle man." And shops are in business to sell books. Generally they're not there to advertise books, unless the end goal is to sell more of those books. A good shop of course will promote books to their customers that they think their customers will like, because they want their customer to be happy, which keeps them coming back to buy more books. Making a buck doesn't *necessarily* make one a bad guy. A shop that distributes books from Diamond is not part of the discussion. Everyone is well aware they are open for the business of making sales. This is about certain retailer variants. What defines a bad guy? Trolling? Gouging collectors by setting the market value? This? http://graphicpolicy.com/2012/10/18/larry-doherty-and-larrys-comics-at-it-again-this-time-hate-speech-towards-transgenders/ Maybe this? http://southern4life.blogspot.com/2011/08/ignorant-fool-alert-larry-doherty-of.html Yeah, everyone will run to buy up Phantoms when the "market corrects itself". I like how the comment section of the Graphic Policy blog says I'm a registered sex offender. Again. Hilarious.

guess which shop variant is going to be the hot one I always buy the one I like best.... I'm not buying your "Not only does it confuse people, it saturates the market" logic... Example: Black Mask keeps churning out WCNGH show variants Nobody's confused. The market's not saturated. You guys are lapping it up. If the same books were printed for a shop.... You'd be confused & market saturated. Anyway... The market will correct itself. Cream rises to the top. In each case the best looking / most limited books are the ones that will win. Show variants are more limited than shop variants. 1 hand in the race vs. 15 hands. Show variants are more limited than shop variants Sometimes they are. Sometimes they are not. Entirely case by case basis.

guess which shop variant is going to be the hot one I always buy the one I like best.... I'm not buying your "Not only does it confuse people, it saturates the market" logic... Example: Black Mask keeps churning out WCNGH show variants Nobody's confused. The market's not saturated. You guys are lapping it up. If the same books were printed for a shop.... You'd be confused & market saturated. Anyway... The market will correct itself. Cream rises to the top. In each case the best looking / most limited books are the ones that will win. Your example says it all. BLACK MASK is churning out variants. Most of us would much rather support the creative team than someone looking for nothing more than a pay day. The market is the market. The only possible reason you state the market will correct itself is probably due to a loss of interest on your variants in hopes to bring some sales back. You know your variants, the ones that will be similarly compared to the 90's drek we so ill speak of. And no Larry, I have not been burned on retailer variants. Not in the least. I just feel the over priced cash grab on retailer variants out of the gate is seriously hurting the stability of the industry. It's one thing if the market sets itself, but for the retailer to do it knowing it will hurt the collectors in the long haul or have them walk away is another. Most of us would much rather support the creative team than someone looking for nothing more than a pay day . Where do you think the books come from? We buy them from the creative team. In volume. So by your logic, unless you purchase a comic directly from the creator you're not supporting them?! Hilarious.

guess which shop variant is going to be the hot one I always buy the one I like best.... I'm not buying your "Not only does it confuse people, it saturates the market" logic... Example: Black Mask keeps churning out WCNGH show variants Nobody's confused. The market's not saturated. You guys are lapping it up. If the same books were printed for a shop.... You'd be confused & market saturated. Anyway... The market will correct itself. Cream rises to the top. In each case the best looking / most limited books are the ones that will win.

Yes, I'd rather buy the version that they only printed 250 copies of rather than the one that they produced 15,000+ of. But the current market will decide that the 15,000 copy version is the most desirable. Mind boggling. (and it wont last:)

rare+demand=value rare-demand=nothing Absolutely. Like I said from the start. Right now, the market is frowning on shop variants. There is currently less demand for them then their higher produced regular issue counterparts. ( In most cases ) I'm betting that the demand changes. Why? They're much rarer than their regular printing counterparts. They're less distributed than their regular printing counterparts. I'm in the minority now believing this. I rarely follow the pack. I'm still producing them like mad. ( pretty sure I've produced the industry high # ) I'm not doing it because I think I'm going to lose money. Anyway, That is all.

The market will not adjust. Every retailer out there has to have their own variant of Spider-Gwen # 1, ASM # 1, Invincible Iron Man # 1, etc. The market is flooded. There's no scarcity until retailers stop this practice. Let's take today's Clandestino #1 for example. There will be 15k+ regular 1st print copies printed. Shop X will commission a variant of say 1,000 copies. They are both first printings. Shop X's version is 15x more limited. Or in your words: "There's scarcity" If ONLY 1 shop does a variant, then there's some rarity there. Right now, that's not the case...and won't be for a while. Sigh.... Shops rarely use the same artwork, even if they did, as long as there's less copies.... As you so eloquently put it: "There's scarcity"

Group of high school girls at the register today: "We're just glad to have OUR Gwen back" Amen.

The market will not adjust. Every retailer out there has to have their own variant of Spider-Gwen # 1, ASM # 1, Invincible Iron Man # 1, etc. The market is flooded. There's no scarcity until retailers stop this practice. Let's take today's Clandestino #1 for example. There will be 15k+ regular 1st print copies printed. Shop X will commission a variant of say 1,000 copies. They are both first printings. Shop X's version is 15x more limited. Or in your words: "There's scarcity"

I'd much rather have the SDCC or NYCC over a retailer variant any day Translation: I'd much rather have a later printing than a first printing. Hilarious. Get ready for the next convention. Black Mask will be there with an even more limited WCNGH ninth printing that the market will swoon for. This reminds me of the Nowhere Men show variants boardies swooned over.... What's hilarious about it? That I'd rather have a direct from the source variant than a retailer variant? I value the creators and enjoy meeting and speaking with them about the book. Of course they stand to make a nice profit off it which I feel they deserve for the work they do. Now what work do you do besides straight out trolling to do nothing more than cash in? You can spin it as putting money in the pockets of creators for doing the variants but most of us know your main goal is to take collectors money and run. Do Phantom variants hold the value you set the price at? *shrug* Commission covers from creators. Purchase large quantities of products from publishers. Distribute & provide top shelf space to a micro network of retailers worldwide. Build readership in-store & online. Tirelessly promote said products... And trolling.... Do you as a business owner seriously not comprehend that when you set prices to gouge your customers on your retailer variants knowing they more often than not do not hold value that it is bad for the industry and your business? The more people burned, the more walk away. Or do you truly not care as long as you are benefiting? You're speaking as a "flipper" that's been burned. Learn to buy better. My shop variants are sold at cover price week one in my brick & mortar. ALWAYS have been, ALWAYS will be. Customers love that, some drive three states over to get them. THAT'S the point. They make my shop a destination. (Sorry, I'm not here to supply your Ebay business) Online they provide a nice revenue stream that I've been reinvesting with the print comic industry for 28 years... My Diamond bill was "forty two thousand dollars+" this week. I'm pretty sure that's OK for the industry. Print needs a lot more shops to step up & buy at my level.

I would too. Retailer variants depreciate the day after release. If I were you, I'd sell the NYCC set. At the moment, they seem REALLY rare. Retailer variants depreciate the day after release In today's market sure. It won't last. The market will adjust. If there's a scarcer version of an item, that's the one to get. My opinion.

I'd much rather have the SDCC or NYCC over a retailer variant any day Translation: I'd much rather have a later printing than a first printing. Hilarious. Get ready for the next convention. Black Mask will be there with an even more limited WCNGH ninth printing that the market will swoon for. This reminds me of the Nowhere Men show variants boardies swooned over.... What's hilarious about it? That I'd rather have a direct from the source variant than a retailer variant? I value the creators and enjoy meeting and speaking with them about the book. Of course they stand to make a nice profit off it which I feel they deserve for the work they do. Now what work do you do besides straight out trolling to do nothing more than cash in? You can spin it as putting money in the pockets of creators for doing the variants but most of us know your main goal is to take collectors money and run. Do Phantom variants hold the value you set the price at? *shrug* Commission covers from creators. Purchase large quantities of products from publishers. Distribute & provide top shelf space to a micro network of retailers worldwide. Build readership in-store & online. Tirelessly promote said products... And trolling....

I'd much rather have the SDCC or NYCC over a retailer variant any day Translation: I'd much rather have a later printing than a first printing. Hilarious. Get ready for the next convention. Black Mask will be there with an even more limited WCNGH ninth printing that the market will swoon for. This reminds me of the Nowhere Men show variants boardies swooned over....

It's ALSO the first appearance of Guillotine. I had a very popular podcast crew in my booth at NYCC chatting, they had just finished interviewing the creative team. Apparently Marvel has big plans for her. I like her design. ( the podcast guys all bought multiple copies ) The book is a potential "mega key"

I like to take my time. That's what she said.......... Seems this was the most signed book at NYCC. Easily. I sold a case a day... Only books even close were new marvels There was also a guy walking the floor from a local shop that hosted a signing offering triple signed copies to vendors $10ea. ( I passed ) Bet there's 80k of these... Great seller at cover.

Thanks man! I actually got to meet Tim for the first time. Great Weekend!

They didn't arrive until noon Friday due to shipping from printer & were available the rest of the show at both my & Tim's booth. I apologize it wasn't earlier but was out of my control. Thought it looked nice. If he's referring to the comic with the newspaper cover (not the newspaper itself), then that's not correct. I picked up the NYCC newspaper cover on Thursday (along with a ton of other variants) . Good meeting you on Sunday, Larry, and thanks for the deal! Great meeting you too. it was a really fun show

They didn't arrive until noon Friday due to shipping from printer & were available the rest of the show at both my & Tim's booth. I apologize it wasn't earlier but was out of my control. Thought it looked nice.

Is that the Blindbox variant? Yikes...