Bronze-Age Spideys 13 13

[kingofwhales]

Got these backfrom cgc.

I thought the 129 would be 7.5 to match my 121 but i`m okay with this.

[Twistty1]

looks like a nice copy from the pic... (thumbs u

[Shocker]

Got this one last month

[cloudofwit]

Got this one last month

 

:hail:

 

Only nine 9.8s out of 192 submitted.

 

Nicely centered too--I've had copies with brutal miswraps.

Edited December 22, 2009 by cloudofwit

[kdoginohio]

My prized Spidey.

[cloudofwit]

[cloudofwit]

This thread hasn't seen any action in over a month? :naughty:

 

I poured through each of the 39 pages of this thread (it spans two plus years) and was astounded that the only pic of ASM #151 that I saw...THE ONLY ONE...was in a post Stronguy made where he posted small pics of the whole Bronze Age ASM run: #80-199 (a number of pics/scans are no longer showing, but STILL!). I am correcting this travesty today by copping a scan of the sweet issue in question, a very high grade one that recently sold here on the boards.

 

 

 

Besides singling out this issue by its image (admittedly a non-key issue), I want to discuss some serious crazy stuff going on with the market value of this black cover beauty. I will draw from personal experience just over a year ago, some boardies' input which proved accurate, GPA info (my beloved just got me a subscription ), some personal research, and the current winds of change that will still have you guessing how much this bad boy can go for if you got one...or want one.

 

Please, fellow ASM Bronze fans, chime in on this persoanl favorite. And lest anyone think I'm only in it for values and market and so on, this was the time frame when I was a kid and readiing the title--and there was nothing like it.

 

Overstreet reminds us that this issue is where "Spider-Man disposes of clone body." The Shocker comes to town too. And sewers and rats. Mercy!

Edited February 4, 2010 by cloudofwit

[cloudofwit]

Any current owners of ASM #151 in CGC 9.6 who want to publicly share? When you got your copy, how much it was, and where you got it from? If you don't want to go public and think such a request rude, then you can PM me. Or, if you simply want to say you're a proud owner of a 9.6, feel free to exercise free speech. There's only 19 of 'em on the census (out of 193 submitted).

 

My story, semi-tinged with regret, is forthcoming.

 

And if anyone definitely knows who is the fortunate owner of the single 9.8 on the census, do tell. Common sense tells me it's Mr. Brulato, but then again, maybe someone beat him to the punch. I see GPA shows that it sold for 1,000 bucks back in September 2006. If that copy ever goes up for sale, or if another one emerges and is auctioned off, I'm thinking it's going to be a battle in the trenches and a predictably insane amount of money realized.

 

Edited February 4, 2010 by cloudofwit

[Spider-Variant]

Any current owners of ASM #151 in CGC 9.6 who want to publicly share? When you got your copy, how much it was, and where you got it from? If you don't want to go public and think such a request rude, then you can PM me. Or, if you simply want to say you're a proud owner of a 9.6, feel free to exercise free speech. There's only 19 of 'em on the census (out of 193 submitted).

 

My story, semi-tinged with regret, is forthcoming.

 

And if anyone definitely knows who is the fortunate owner of the single 9.8 on the census, do tell. Common sense tells me it's Mr. Brulato, but then again, maybe someone beat him to the punch. I see GPA shows that it sold for 1,000 bucks back in September 2006. If that copy ever goes up for sale, or if another one emerges and is auctioned off, I'm thinking it's going to be a battle in the trenches and a predictably insane amount of money realized.

 

 

I love this issue. When I was a lad, my brother picked up issue #150 but we missed issue #151 and #152 and I started collecting ASM at 153 on. I ordered several issues through mail order. It was hit or miss back then, but my 151 and 152 were nice books. Alas, they did not fair too well in my young hands. Several years past and I upgraded several issues, 151 being one of them.

 

I finally sent my uprgraded #151 in to cgc grading and it came back a 9.4. Would have thought 9.6, but I'm happy with it.

 

[cloudofwit]

Any current owners of ASM #151 in CGC 9.6 who want to publicly share? When you got your copy, how much it was, and where you got it from? If you don't want to go public and think such a request rude, then you can PM me. Or, if you simply want to say you're a proud owner of a 9.6, feel free to exercise free speech. There's only 19 of 'em on the census (out of 193 submitted).

 

My story, semi-tinged with regret, is forthcoming.

 

And if anyone definitely knows who is the fortunate owner of the single 9.8 on the census, do tell. Common sense tells me it's Mr. Brulato, but then again, maybe someone beat him to the punch. I see GPA shows that it sold for 1,000 bucks back in September 2006. If that copy ever goes up for sale, or if another one emerges and is auctioned off, I'm thinking it's going to be a battle in the trenches and a predictably insane amount of money realized.

 

 

I love this issue. When I was a lad, my brother picked up issue #150 but we missed issue #151 and #152 and I started collecting ASM at 153 on. I ordered several issues through mail order. It was hit or miss back then, but my 151 and 152 were nice books. Alas, they did not fair too well in my young hands. Several years past and I upgraded several issues, 151 being one of them.

 

I finally sent my uprgraded #151 in to cgc grading and it came back a 9.4. Would have thought 9.6, but I'm happy with it.

 

:hail: Thanks for sharing.

 

I too had to upgrade my original owner copy.

[Jeffro.]

Two that I used to own. These were both bought by me years ago (wayyy before CGC) at cons for pennies compared to what they're worth now. They were not pressed, but I'm almost certain these could have been pressed to higher grades.

 

I really miss the 128. Love that cover.

 

 

Edited February 4, 2010 by Jeffro

[the1stfo]

What makes #151 so much tougher than other black covers like 104 & 108? There are 2 copies of 104 @9.8 and 10 copies of 108.

[Stronguy]

Any current owners of ASM #151 in CGC 9.6 who want to publicly share? When you got your copy, how much it was, and where you got it from? If you don't want to go public and think such a request rude, then you can PM me. Or, if you simply want to say you're a proud owner of a 9.6, feel free to exercise free speech. There's only 19 of 'em on the census (out of 193 submitted).

 

My story, semi-tinged with regret, is forthcoming.

 

And if anyone definitely knows who is the fortunate owner of the single 9.8 on the census, do tell. Common sense tells me it's Mr. Brulato, but then again, maybe someone beat him to the punch. I see GPA shows that it sold for 1,000 bucks back in September 2006. If that copy ever goes up for sale, or if another one emerges and is auctioned off, I'm thinking it's going to be a battle in the trenches and a predictably insane amount of money realized.

 

 

I've got a raw 6.0.

[cloudofwit]

Any current owners of ASM #151 in CGC 9.6 who want to publicly share? When you got your copy, how much it was, and where you got it from? If you don't want to go public and think such a request rude, then you can PM me. Or, if you simply want to say you're a proud owner of a 9.6, feel free to exercise free speech. There's only 19 of 'em on the census (out of 193 submitted).

 

My story, semi-tinged with regret, is forthcoming.

 

And if anyone definitely knows who is the fortunate owner of the single 9.8 on the census, do tell. Common sense tells me it's Mr. Brulato, but then again, maybe someone beat him to the punch. I see GPA shows that it sold for 1,000 bucks back in September 2006. If that copy ever goes up for sale, or if another one emerges and is auctioned off, I'm thinking it's going to be a battle in the trenches and a predictably insane amount of money realized.

 

 

I've got a raw 6.0.

 

 

I might start hoarding the issue; I'll need to stock up on some 6.0s. :think:

Edited February 4, 2010 by cloudofwit

[cloudofwit]

What makes #151 so much tougher than other black covers like 104 & 108? There are 2 copies of 104 @9.8 and 10 copies of 108.

 

It is odd to some degree. :confused: Might it be the clone body that has resurrected itself from being discarded and is preventing any 9.8 clones? But seriously, it is interesting that the issue continues (at least for now) to be one tough cookie.

 

When it comes to ASMs in the #100-199 range, #151 is the only issue with only one 9.8.

 

No 10.0s to speak of in this 100 issue span, but here are the 12 total copies of 9.9s that DO exist:

#126

#130

#135

#166 (2 copies)--Worldsbestcomics posted one of these he owns on an earlier page of this very thread.

#182 Rocket Racer.

#192

#194 (3 copies :whatthe: ) Black Cat hat trick? :shrug:

#196

#198

Edited February 5, 2010 by cloudofwit

[cloudofwit]

Two that I used to own. These were both bought by me years ago (wayyy before CGC) at cons for pennies compared to what they're worth now. They were not pressed, but I'm almost certain these could have been pressed to higher grades.

 

I really miss the 128. Love that cover.

 

 

 

Beauties. Wish bhhooks22 were still around to especially enjoy the #138.

[cloudofwit]

This thread hasn't seen any action in over a month? :naughty:

 

I poured through each of the 39 pages of this thread (it spans two plus years) and was astounded that the only pic of ASM #151 that I saw...THE ONLY ONE...was in a post Stronguy made where he posted small pics of the whole Bronze Age ASM run: #80-199 (a number of pics/scans are no longer showing, but STILL!). I am correcting this travesty today by copping a scan of the sweet issue in question, a very high grade one that recently sold here on the boards.

 

 

 

Besides singling out this issue by its image (admittedly a non-key issue), I want to discuss some serious crazy stuff going on with the market value of this black cover beauty. I will draw from personal experience just over a year ago, some boardies' input which proved accurate, GPA info (my beloved just got me a subscription ), some personal research, and the current winds of change that will still have you guessing how much this bad boy can go for if you got one...or want one.

 

Please, fellow ASM Bronze fans, chime in on this persoanl favorite. And lest anyone think I'm only in it for values and market and so on, this was the time frame when I was a kid and readiing the title--and there was nothing like it.

 

Overstreet reminds us that this issue is where "Spider-Man disposes of clone body." The Shocker comes to town too. And sewers and rats. Mercy!

 

______________________________________________________________________________

 

Okay, okay, When someone starts to post incessantly it gets very annoying, but I've got to follow up with my story and hopefully () it'll be interesting and also will spur some stories and feedback.

 

After a 15 year break from comics, in summer of 2007, I get back into the hobby. In 2008, I submit a batch of (at the time) moderns that included a copy of ASM #151 from my personal ASM collection. Although I read the comic as an 8-year-old from either a subscription or from the 7-Eleven, I definitely picked up another copy in the late '70s or early '80s and this was the one I submitted to CGC. It came back a 9.6 (OWW) and I soon discovered that it wasn't exactly worth 48.00 (the 9.2 price in Overstreet).

 

Truth be told, as a purported ASM collector, I guess a case could be made that I sold out it when I decided I was going to put it on the market. I figured I'd get a nice 9.0 or 9.2 copy as a replacement and make some funds in the process. The question was "How much?" And that's a question that's going to get some fluid answers for this book in this grade. I PMed BronzeBruce13, Foolkiller, greggy, Foolkiller, and Worldsbestcomics (I might have left out a person or two) and asked their input on the value of the book. Besides greggy giving me a (I'm paraphrasing here from memory ), I basically heard from the scribes that 400-700 was the range. For someone whose allowance is basically 100-150 per month, this was enticing.

 

The book went up in a ComicLink auction in late 2008. Its hammer price was 705.00. This was barely over a year ago. Although I might whine that I'd like to still own it--sentimental value, monetary value, etc.--there's no doubt it was a great time to sell. At that time, I recall there being about 150 copies on the census and only 10 or 11 in 9.6 (now there are 19 in 9.6 and 193 submitted--so the 9.6s have nearly doubled with the last 40-odd submissions--choose your favorite theory or theories on this one).

 

GPA for this book in 9.6--19 copies total--as of yesterday (Feb. 3, 2010) is as follows:

 

'08: 519.00 (1 sale); doesn't include mine since ComicLink won't cooperate with GPA

'09: 597.00 (4 sales)

12 mo. avg.: 460.00 (4 sales)

Last sale: 306.00 (Feb. 2010)...more on this in a bit.

 

Here is some of the research I've compiled on specific 9.6 sales:

 

9.6 (Oww) 705.00 11/18/08

ComicLink Auction...My former book that you just heard more than you wanted to know about.

 

9.6 (OWW) 519.09 12/1/08

ebay (John Haines Rare Comics)...ebay gets less than ComicLink factor? Or the fluid nature of #151 in general?

 

9.6 (OWW) 853.00 1/27/09

ComicLink Auction...Holy man. The highest amount ever paid for a 9,.6? ComicLink factor hard to deny.

 

9.6 (OWW) 676.00 2/9/09

ebay...Just days after a likely record-breaking price, this copy--a sweet one with no miswrap--sells for substantially less.

 

9.6 (OWW) 425.00 4/21/09

ComicLink Auction...Uh, whoops. So much for ComicLink's infallibility. This was one low price. Or is it along the lines of the book's finally settling down and "HG Bronze has been taken a major hit in '09"?

 

9.6 (pQ?) 291.00 7/09

This was a sale recorded by GPA....Some would say an anomaly for this issue. This is dirt cheap. Or is it a trend?

 

9.6 (WP) 306.00 2/2/10--just 2 days ago! ebay...the boards' own filter81 puts up the first white page specimen I've tracked on this book and I thought the book would easily eclipse 500.00. Don't know what Adam was expecting, but the guy's got so many sweet books maybe he's lost track. I would've loved to have bid on this book if I had the coin (why did I sell mine )

 

Okay, so I, being wise in my own eyes, had pretty much realized that this book was on its way down in a big way--and that was all there was to it.

 

BUT THEN...right here on the boards, not too long after filter81's book sold, a fellow boardie puts one up for sale (the scan of which I borrowed in this post) for 600.00. I'm thinking to myself, "Okay, GPA is at about 600 but this book is clearly going down...I highly doubt it'll sell, but nonetheless very sweet book and good luck." Then I check back, less than 24 hours later, and the book has sold to an anonmyous buyer. Even if it was less than 600 via pM, I'm betting it was a lot higher than 300 or 400.

 

So...there you have it: The wild, wacky world of one non-key Bronze AGe ASM. It's been 10 years and now 19 9.6s, but I think this book in this grade is anything but predictable. Just wait until that lone 9.8 goes up for sale.

 

Thoughts? Comments? Stories? Insights?

 

 

Automatic no-prize for anyone who read this entire post. It ain't easy in this Attention-Deficit Disorder world we find ourselves in.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 5, 2010 by cloudofwit

[oakman29]

Any current owners of ASM #151 in CGC 9.6 who want to publicly share? When you got your copy, how much it was, and where you got it from? If you don't want to go public and think such a request rude, then you can PM me. Or, if you simply want to say you're a proud owner of a 9.6, feel free to exercise free speech. There's only 19 of 'em on the census (out of 193 submitted).

 

My story, semi-tinged with regret, is forthcoming.

 

And if anyone definitely knows who is the fortunate owner of the single 9.8 on the census, do tell. Common sense tells me it's Mr. Brulato, but then again, maybe someone beat him to the punch. I see GPA shows that it sold for 1,000 bucks back in September 2006. If that copy ever goes up for sale, or if another one emerges and is auctioned off, I'm thinking it's going to be a battle in the trenches and a predictably insane amount of money realized.

 

 

I love this issue. When I was a lad, my brother picked up issue #150 but we missed issue #151 and #152 and I started collecting ASM at 153 on. I ordered several issues through mail order. It was hit or miss back then, but my 151 and 152 were nice books. Alas, they did not fair too well in my young hands. Several years past and I upgraded several issues, 151 being one of them.

 

I finally sent my uprgraded #151 in to cgc grading and it came back a 9.4. Would have thought 9.6, but I'm happy with it.

 

:hail: Thanks for sharing.

 

I too had to upgrade my original owner copy.

 

Here is my raw copy ,and do believe if submitted would get a 9.6/9.8

[cloudofwit]

Any current owners of ASM #151 in CGC 9.6 who want to publicly share? When you got your copy, how much it was, and where you got it from? If you don't want to go public and think such a request rude, then you can PM me. Or, if you simply want to say you're a proud owner of a 9.6, feel free to exercise free speech. There's only 19 of 'em on the census (out of 193 submitted).

 

My story, semi-tinged with regret, is forthcoming.

 

And if anyone definitely knows who is the fortunate owner of the single 9.8 on the census, do tell. Common sense tells me it's Mr. Brulato, but then again, maybe someone beat him to the punch. I see GPA shows that it sold for 1,000 bucks back in September 2006. If that copy ever goes up for sale, or if another one emerges and is auctioned off, I'm thinking it's going to be a battle in the trenches and a predictably insane amount of money realized.

 

 

I love this issue. When I was a lad, my brother picked up issue #150 but we missed issue #151 and #152 and I started collecting ASM at 153 on. I ordered several issues through mail order. It was hit or miss back then, but my 151 and 152 were nice books. Alas, they did not fair too well in my young hands. Several years past and I upgraded several issues, 151 being one of them.

 

I finally sent my uprgraded #151 in to cgc grading and it came back a 9.4. Would have thought 9.6, but I'm happy with it.

 

:hail: Thanks for sharing.

 

I too had to upgrade my original owner copy.

 

Here is my raw copy ,and do believe if submitted would get a 9.6/9.8

 

Are you going to keep it raw?

[oakman29]

Any current owners of ASM #151 in CGC 9.6 who want to publicly share? When you got your copy, how much it was, and where you got it from? If you don't want to go public and think such a request rude, then you can PM me. Or, if you simply want to say you're a proud owner of a 9.6, feel free to exercise free speech. There's only 19 of 'em on the census (out of 193 submitted).

 

My story, semi-tinged with regret, is forthcoming.

 

And if anyone definitely knows who is the fortunate owner of the single 9.8 on the census, do tell. Common sense tells me it's Mr. Brulato, but then again, maybe someone beat him to the punch. I see GPA shows that it sold for 1,000 bucks back in September 2006. If that copy ever goes up for sale, or if another one emerges and is auctioned off, I'm thinking it's going to be a battle in the trenches and a predictably insane amount of money realized.

 

 

I love this issue. When I was a lad, my brother picked up issue #150 but we missed issue #151 and #152 and I started collecting ASM at 153 on. I ordered several issues through mail order. It was hit or miss back then, but my 151 and 152 were nice books. Alas, they did not fair too well in my young hands. Several years past and I upgraded several issues, 151 being one of them.

 

I finally sent my uprgraded #151 in to cgc grading and it came back a 9.4. Would have thought 9.6, but I'm happy with it.

 

:hail: Thanks for sharing.

 

I too had to upgrade my original owner copy.

 

Here is my raw copy ,and do believe if submitted would get a 9.6/9.8

 

Are you going to keep it raw?

 

I may keep it raw,but do want to get all my keys graded.