cheetah Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 There may be another type of Craftint besides the duotone that I was discussing. Craftint doubletone paper (DuoShade is another brand) is one of those things an ink illustrator had in their toolbox before the advent of the digital toolset or even rubdown tone systems like Zip-a-Tone. It wasn’t cheap and it gradually fell out of use. Howard Chaykin uses it quite often, though he prefers the graphite/charcoal pattern over the hatched lines I’ve chosen to work with here. Craftint had two patterns on it. Apply one chemical to it with a brush or pen and the first pattern was revealed. Use another chemical and the other pattern came up. It required careful planning and tone management, because once the tone or tones were revealed your only option was to take it to white or black. Erasing and reapplying tone was impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scrooge Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Not everyone is pleased with this edition: Unfortunately, Fantagraphics has badly dropped the ball with this one. Using poor sources and printing at a small size, Crane's work never gets a chance to shine. If you really want to see these strips showcased the way they should be (albeit in flimsier paperback/magazine editions) seek out both the Dragon Lady Press books and especially The Pioneer set of reprints from the late 80's. Both reproduce the strip in a larger size and, especially in the case of the Pioneer books, in a much clearer fashion. The Pioneer books (there were two slim volumes) cover some of the material in this volume from Fantagraphics, while the Dragon Lady Press books cover material that will show up in the next volume. It's a real shame IDW couldn't have put this out, because Fant. just wasn't up to the task. Thanks for posting this. I knew of this volume coming out but I have the Pioneer books IIRC that cover the same material as this new reprint. I don't understand either how anyone would want to re-run a new reprint and not improve on previous reprinting. At least the new Prince Valiant volumes are better than previously issued reprints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 There may be another type of Craftint besides the duotone that I was discussing. Craftint doubletone paper (DuoShade is another brand) is one of those things an ink illustrator had in their toolbox before the advent of the digital toolset or even rubdown tone systems like Zip-a-Tone. It wasn’t cheap and it gradually fell out of use. Howard Chaykin uses it quite often, though he prefers the graphite/charcoal pattern over the hatched lines I’ve chosen to work with here. Craftint had two patterns on it. Apply one chemical to it with a brush or pen and the first pattern was revealed. Use another chemical and the other pattern came up. It required careful planning and tone management, because once the tone or tones were revealed your only option was to take it to white or black. Erasing and reapplying tone was impossible. The type you discussed was certainly the most widespread....it was definitely the most repro-friendly. I do seem to recall a variety that mimics drybrush and another that resembled the "sponge" pattern commonly used in specialty wall painting. One of my favorite examples of the more commonly used variety is Frazetta's Red Planet cover for one of the Famous Funnies Buck Rogers covers. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend o jesus) (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
143ksk Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Church copy of a very tough book to find in decent shape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generic user Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Damn strong group of acquisitions, but this is my favorite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Surfer Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Incredible pick ups but this cover sure is neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbcomicbox Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Damn strong group of acquisitions, but this is my favorite! Use to have the MH (serious nice book).....sold it for art and replaced it with the Larson. Just a great cover if you are into green guys.....jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat-Man_America Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 My latest... ..oh, almost forgot, ...and this upgrade: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Surfer Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 It can't be said enough, the depth and quality of the Church collection is just mind boggling. Nothing even comes close to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicdonna Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat-Man_America Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 It can't be said enough, the depth and quality of the Church collection is just mind boggling. Nothing even comes close to it. Oh, yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicdonna Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Thanks, it's my wife's book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw-Man Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryw7 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I love that cover. Congrats, Bill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Illmannered Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Cheetah - as usual your books HURT my feelings they are so beautiful!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Illmannered Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I recently got those two books. Neither one is exceptionally high grade, but I like 'em. The Bat is one of my favorite covers of the run, and the Beware is a neat cover that you don't see too often. Cookeville copy: Bethlehem: What an odd combination...I have both of these books next to each other on my Borders comic stand in my bedroom!! Great stuff man! Great collectors think alike. Cool books! (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I couldn't resist this one when it came up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Surfer Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Never saw that book before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
