peewee22 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 What's the FMV of a Spidey 1 9.2 ? 100k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Surfer Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderphill Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I bought this at Sotheby's as mint in the early 90's... some slight tanning inside cover I guess gets deemed 8.5 by CGC... although the cover gloss was like no other Spidy #1 I have ever seen... Ever planning to sell this bad boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 What's the FMV of a Spidey 1 9.2 ? 100k? Someday but not currently. Believe it not, I am a bit disappointed with the page quality. The general opinion before submission was it had a chance at White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Very sweet book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne-Tec Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 What's the FMV of a Spidey 1 9.2 ? 100k? Someday but not currently. Believe it not, I am a bit disappointed with the page quality. The general opinion before submission was it had a chance at White. If a 9.2 copy of Showcase #4 has already sold for 100K, so to will ASM #1 in due time. I don't personally feel that time to be too far off. Other books (the aforementioned) are rarer in both totality and high grade, but eventually it will come down to the desirability, impact, modern-connection and importance of "said book". Times have changed and the former grails of yesteryear will continue to take a back seat to the next tier of grails featuring the marquee characters. Similar to how Action #7 and Tec #29 have pulled ahead of former grails featuring 1st appearances of lesser characters (Flash Comics #1, Advenure #40, etc.) -- I believe that ASM #1 will pull ahead of books like Showcase #4, FF #1, etc. due to many factors, not the least of which being... Spiderman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peewee22 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 What's the FMV of a Spidey 1 9.2 ? 100k? Someday but not currently. Believe it not, I am a bit disappointed with the page quality. The general opinion before submission was it had a chance at White. If a 9.2 copy of Showcase #4 has already sold for 100K, so to will ASM #1 in due time. I don't personally feel that time to be too far off. Other books (the aforementioned) are rarer in both totality and high grade, but eventually it will come down to the desirability, impact, modern-connection and importance of "said book". Times have changed and the former grails of yesteryear will continue to take a back seat to the next tier of grails featuring the marquee characters. Similar to how Action #7 and Tec #29 have pulled ahead of former grails featuring 1st appearances of lesser characters (Flash Comics #1, Advenure #40, etc.) -- I believe that ASM #1 will pull ahead of books like Showcase #4, FF #1, etc. due to many factors, not the least of which being... Spiderman. Keep in mind there are numerous Spidey 1s out there in all grades. Rarity has a say in value. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne-Tec Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 What's the FMV of a Spidey 1 9.2 ? 100k? Someday but not currently. Believe it not, I am a bit disappointed with the page quality. The general opinion before submission was it had a chance at White. If a 9.2 copy of Showcase #4 has already sold for 100K, so to will ASM #1 in due time. I don't personally feel that time to be too far off. Other books (the aforementioned) are rarer in both totality and high grade, but eventually it will come down to the desirability, impact, modern-connection and importance of "said book". Times have changed and the former grails of yesteryear will continue to take a back seat to the next tier of grails featuring the marquee characters. Similar to how Action #7 and Tec #29 have pulled ahead of former grails featuring 1st appearances of lesser characters (Flash Comics #1, Advenure #40, etc.) -- I believe that ASM #1 will pull ahead of books like Showcase #4, FF #1, etc. due to many factors, not the least of which being... Spiderman. Keep in mind there are numerous Spidey 1s out there in all grades. Rarity has a say in value. (thumbs u Of course and trust me, I hear you. (thumbs u But similar to how Batman #1's will always out-sell the rarer, tougher to find in all grades, 1st appearance issues of lesser known superheroes -- ASM #1 will eventually stand tall above all others, sans AF #15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 That's one helluva book that Bob has there and a keeper. There has been two recorded sell of ASM1 in 9.2 in 2012, which sold for around $60K. AMS1 reminds me of a Superman 1, which a popular character having his own title for the first time. Batman 1 has a lot going for it: first title devoted to Batman, first appearance Joker/Catwoman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peewee22 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Here's to Bat 1 (yeah, can you believe it, this is coming from a Spidey freak!) Yeah, Bob has one helluva book there ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airwalker Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Okay, I now have a second copy of this grail, a slight upgrade from my 6.0 copy. Incredible book, Bob! Or should I say amazing? Very sweet! Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne-Tec Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Since the question was posed in the Amazing Fantasy #15 Club thread... How many copies of ASM #1 do you guys estimate to be left in existence, total? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter99 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 over 2,100 graded copies. You have to believe there are at least 10X that left ungraded, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dscott Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 CGC BLUE LABEL bomber-bob 9.2 OW/W PAGE 24 PHOTO fantastic_four 9.0 OW PAGE 5 sartre 8.5 OW/W PAGE 23 PHOTO Korvac Saga 8.5 OW PAGE 10 Roulette44 7.0 OW/W PAGE 18 mar-vell 7.0 OW PAGE 4 bomber-bob 6.0 OW/W PAGE 18 Bruno_s4 5.5 OW PAGE 9 squidmo2000 5.0 OW/W PAGE 3 Deanokeeno 5.0 OW/W PAGE 11 chainnball 5.0 CR/OW PAGE 19 Spideymanfan73 4.5 OW/W PAGE 8 Tsimanga 4.5 OW PAGE 13 silverweb 4.5 OW PAGE 19 telerites 4.0 OW/W PAGE 22 spidey78 4.0 OW/W PAGE 14 Columbia Comics 3.5 OW/W PAGE 22 dscott 3.5 CR/OW PAGE 17 Ramses717 3.5 CR/OW PAGE 15 mysterio 3.0 OW/W PAGE 7 Hado 3.0 OW PAGE 22 Twistty1 3.0 OW PAGE 2 *Bronze age fan* 2.5 OW/W PAGE 4 ThoseBackPages 2.0 CR/OW PAGE 9 Mr. Lodge 1.8 OW PAGE 23 PHOTO Mac Man 1.0 CR/OW PAGE 1 cloudofwit 1.0 OW/W PAGE 6 CGC SS YELLOW LABEL piper 3.5 CR/OW PAGE 1 JeresyComicBoy 2.0 OW/W PAGE RAW BOOKS Stronguy RAW PAGE 2 Kevin.J RAW/UK PAGE 4 Miamiknight3434 RAW PAGE 9 KirbyJack RAW PAGE 18 marvelcollector RAW PAGE 21 MrBigFeathers RAW PAGE 20 oakman29 RAW PAGE 23 PHOTO ft88 RAW PAGE 24 PHOTO jmg3637 RAW PAGE 24 PHOTO CGC RESTORED PURPLE LABEL Count 8.0 W PAGE 1 comicdey 3.0 OW/W PAGE 5 Current count 40 members Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyman-migration Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 somebody pinch me Okay, I now have a second copy of this grail, a slight upgrade from my 6.0 copy. Incredible book, Bob! Or should I say amazing? Very sweet! Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lscomics Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I don't know if anyone has posted one of these, it's Australian from the '70s. These are tough to find in anything over Fine and almost impossible to find with the poster still intact. This one does have it BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyman-migration Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 cool book! I don't know if anyone has posted one of these, it's Australian from the '70s. These are tough to find in anything over Fine and almost impossible to find with the poster still intact. This one does have it BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne-Tec Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 over 2,100 graded copies. You have to believe there are at least 10X that left ungraded, IMO. That would leave 90% of all copies in existence raw. I have to very respectfully disagree. Over 50%, if not well over 50% of the copies we see made available are slabbed. Very unlikely that 90% of all remaining copies are raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter99 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Why would a collector slab a raw book if they weren't going to sell it? My number might/might not be right. I personally know a collector that has several raw copies of ASM 1. He has no intention of slabbing them until he sells them. I'm sure there are many more similar collectors out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudofwit Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) over 2,100 graded copies. You have to believe there are at least 10X that left ungraded, IMO. That would leave 90% of all copies in existence raw. I have to very respectfully disagree. Over 50%, if not well over 50% of the copies we see made available are slabbed. Very unlikely that 90% of all remaining copies are raw. Don't know if you saw it, but over in the AF #15 thread, G.A.tor asserted that he wouldn't be surprised if there were 12,500 to 25,000 copies of AF #15 (5-10% of a reported 250,000 original print run). He's not the final authority on this discussion, but I think his opinion has value simply because of his experience in the hobby. IF he's in the ball park, then something relatively similar, it seems, would be going on with ASM #1. CGC will be celebrating their 13th anniversary come January and even though that's a decent chunk of time, it's not quite even a generation. So I think after, say, 25 years it'll be interesting to see the figures (but I do think there's tons of collectors, as scooter99 suggests, that do not have their copies slabbed). Incidentally, in January of this year I noted how many total copies of Action Comics #1, Detective Comics #27, and Amazing Fantasy #15 there were on the CGC census. In ten months, here's how things have changed: over 200 more copies of AF #15; 4 more of Tec #27; and 2 more of Action #1. Edited November 28, 2012 by cloudofwit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...