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Foolkiller

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I definitely agree as well. Although some buyers are just that way. They think that they might be overpaying if they bought a book for more than what someone else bought it for. So what? It's how much you think the value of the book(s) is worth to you. I've definitely "overpaid" or paid more than what people would offer for books I will keep in my collection and that I won't re-sell.

 

Exactly, dealers factor what someone else may have paid for a particular book or collection with every purchase they make. If they aren't doing that they are foolish.

 

But god forbid a collector do that. meh

 

I don't think this is true -- you're saying dealers factor in what someone else may have paid? Sometimes, generally, if I am looking at something for resale, I look at what I will pay for the item and then what I can resell it for -- not what the person paid for it when they bought the collection etc.

 

When dealers swarm Dave Kapelka's booth, nobody is thinking, what did Dave pay for this stuff, but rather, can we pay his sticker and resell it.

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I definitely agree as well. Although some buyers are just that way. They think that they might be overpaying if they bought a book for more than what someone else bought it for. So what? It's how much you think the value of the book(s) is worth to you. I've definitely "overpaid" or paid more than what people would offer for books I will keep in my collection and that I won't re-sell.

 

Exactly, dealers factor what someone else may have paid for a particular book or collection with every purchase they make. If they aren't doing that they are foolish.

 

But god forbid a collector do that. meh

 

I don't think this is true -- you're saying dealers factor in what someone else may have paid? Sometimes, generally, if I am looking at something for resale, I look at what I will pay for the item and then what I can resell it for -- not what the person paid for it when they bought the collection etc.

 

When dealers swarm Dave Kapelka's booth, nobody is thinking, what did Dave pay for this stuff, but rather, can we pay his sticker and resell it.

 

Any number of things can be and should be factored into a large purchase. I see nothing wrong with taking into consideration what the seller paid before making an offer.

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I definitely agree as well. Although some buyers are just that way. They think that they might be overpaying if they bought a book for more than what someone else bought it for. So what? It's how much you think the value of the book(s) is worth to you. I've definitely "overpaid" or paid more than what people would offer for books I will keep in my collection and that I won't re-sell.

 

Exactly, dealers factor what someone else may have paid for a particular book or collection with every purchase they make. If they aren't doing that they are foolish.

 

But god forbid a collector do that. meh

 

I don't think this is true -- you're saying dealers factor in what someone else may have paid? Sometimes, generally, if I am looking at something for resale, I look at what I will pay for the item and then what I can resell it for -- not what the person paid for it when they bought the collection etc.

 

When dealers swarm Dave Kapelka's booth, nobody is thinking, what did Dave pay for this stuff, but rather, can we pay his sticker and resell it.

 

Any number of things can be and should be factored into a large purchase. I see nothing wrong with taking into consideration what the seller paid before making an offer.

 

No I agree, there's nothing wrong with it, but your above statement says "dealers factor what someone else may have paid... with every purchase they make" and if they don't they are foolish, and that's simply wholly inaccurate.

 

On the other hand, I agree, there's nothing wrong with it. If you know what a store owner paid on a given collection and know they can be leveraged on the basis that they want to turn a quick profit or can't afford a long term tie up of their money, you certainly can use that information to your advantage.

 

However, there's also nothing wrong with the dealer rejecting an offer they feel is absurdly low.

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I definitely agree as well. Although some buyers are just that way. They think that they might be overpaying if they bought a book for more than what someone else bought it for. So what? It's how much you think the value of the book(s) is worth to you. I've definitely "overpaid" or paid more than what people would offer for books I will keep in my collection and that I won't re-sell.

 

Exactly, dealers factor what someone else may have paid for a particular book or collection with every purchase they make. If they aren't doing that they are foolish.

 

But god forbid a collector do that. meh

 

I don't think this is true -- you're saying dealers factor in what someone else may have paid? Sometimes, generally, if I am looking at something for resale, I look at what I will pay for the item and then what I can resell it for -- not what the person paid for it when they bought the collection etc.

 

When dealers swarm Dave Kapelka's booth, nobody is thinking, what did Dave pay for this stuff, but rather, can we pay his sticker and resell it.

 

Any number of things can be and should be factored into a large purchase. I see nothing wrong with taking into consideration what the seller paid before making an offer.

 

I guess it all depends on how much time you have to think about it and the info that you have at the time.

 

If there is a mad rush on here or at a con, well, you snooze you lose.

 

If you have the time to process the info and counter offer then that's fine but then you will have to assess whether it's a risk you want to take and possibly lose a shot at buying it in the first place.

 

Every scenario is different.

 

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I definitely agree as well. Although some buyers are just that way. They think that they might be overpaying if they bought a book for more than what someone else bought it for. So what? It's how much you think the value of the book(s) is worth to you. I've definitely "overpaid" or paid more than what people would offer for books I will keep in my collection and that I won't re-sell.

 

Exactly, dealers factor what someone else may have paid for a particular book or collection with every purchase they make. If they aren't doing that they are foolish.

 

But god forbid a collector do that. meh

 

I don't think this is true -- you're saying dealers factor in what someone else may have paid? Sometimes, generally, if I am looking at something for resale, I look at what I will pay for the item and then what I can resell it for -- not what the person paid for it when they bought the collection etc.

 

When dealers swarm Dave Kapelka's booth, nobody is thinking, what did Dave pay for this stuff, but rather, can we pay his sticker and resell it.

 

Any number of things can be and should be factored into a large purchase. I see nothing wrong with taking into consideration what the seller paid before making an offer.

 

No I agree, there's nothing wrong with it, but your above statement says "dealers factor what someone else may have paid... with every purchase they make" and if they don't they are foolish, and that's simply wholly inaccurate.

 

On the other hand, I agree, there's nothing wrong with it. If you know what a store owner paid on a given collection and know they can be leveraged on the basis that they want to turn a quick profit or can't afford a long term tie up of their money, you certainly can use that information to your advantage.

 

However, there's also nothing wrong with the dealer rejecting an offer they feel is absurdly low.

 

That sums it up pretty well, I'll just leave it at that.

 

Just doing my part to protect the collector man :preach:

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Asking what the seller originally paid is really none of your business. If you find out some other way, that's fine. (As in you figure it out based on serial number via GPA.)

 

 

 

 

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And most will not tell anyway.......so what's the point?

 

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If you're talking about the big boys, you're right. If you mean the local shop guy, almost everyone has told me right up front what they paid and what they needed to get.

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To me it's watching all the seller do whatever it takes to squeeze as much money out of every single sale they make like they have a starving family to feed and then getting offended when someone makes an offer.

 

I sell stuff at or below my cost all the time, usually to pay for recreational drugs, or to take the young woman I'm courting that week to a fancy dinner. If you would rather fund my debauchery than help feed a starving family, go buy my books.

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And most will not tell anyway.......so what's the point?

 

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If you're talking about the big boys, you're right. If you mean the local shop guy, almost everyone has told me right up front what they paid and what they needed to get.

 

Yes, of course. It depends on who you're dealing with.

 

 

 

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Oh craap, yes I quoted the wrong thing.

 

I guess what I'm saying is maybe I think you paid 80% below guide so I figure if I offer 50% below guide you're still pulling 30%

But if I only wanted 50% for them wouldn't I have listed them for a lower price to begin with?

And frankly, what I paid for them shouldn't figure into what someone wants to offer.

If it does they are solely basing their offer on an assumption.

As I said, folks are free to offer whatever they want to.

But I'm stating it again, offering me less than half is grounds for ridicule.

 

Fair enough (thumbs u

 

And truthfully it's nobodys business what he paid for the collection. If people want the books buy the books if not then don't buy them. But worrying about how much profit somebody is going to make on a sale is really bad taste. Just my 2c

Oh and good luck with the sale.

 

true, but this seller started complaining about being offered 50% of guide, considering the grade of these books..not a bad offer. btw, I'm sure the seller didn't pay anywhere near 50% of guide.

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Oh craap, yes I quoted the wrong thing.

 

I guess what I'm saying is maybe I think you paid 80% below guide so I figure if I offer 50% below guide you're still pulling 30%

But if I only wanted 50% for them wouldn't I have listed them for a lower price to begin with?

And frankly, what I paid for them shouldn't figure into what someone wants to offer.

If it does they are solely basing their offer on an assumption.

As I said, folks are free to offer whatever they want to.

But I'm stating it again, offering me less than half is grounds for ridicule.

 

Fair enough (thumbs u

 

And truthfully it's nobodys business what he paid for the collection. If people want the books buy the books if not then don't buy them. But worrying about how much profit somebody is going to make on a sale is really bad taste. Just my 2c

Oh and good luck with the sale.

 

I completely agree with Bob. Has almost everyone lost their manners around here? Between this thread and that Mass Pedigree thread, I'm really starting to lose faith with the boards. :(

 

 

I completely disagree, and let me make it clear I never even made an offer, I was just trying to understand his response to offers that we're apparently "low ball offers".

 

To me it's watching all the seller do whatever it takes to squeeze as much money out of every single sale they make like they have a starving family to feed and then getting offended when someone makes an offer.

 

Not to mention everyday on these boards I read over and over, "don't be afraid to make an offer, you might be surprised", etc.

 

Pretty lame.

 

on the MONEY! I couldn't say it better myself. I always here comic books not being about the money, but yet dealers always seem to make that an invalid statement.

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