Steve Jobs passes away.

[The Troll King]

No, it just seems that I'm the only one not confused. I challenge anyone to name just one of Job's inventions.

 

Hahahahahahahaha. You might want to leave the thread now.

 

Not up to the challenge?

 

According to the definition of "Inventor" held by the United States Patent and Trademark Office, Mr. Jobs was an inventor many times over.

 

No one is arguing that he was the second coming of DaVinci or Thomas Edison.

 

None of his patents are inventions, they are designs using other inventions.

 

I'm still waiting for one invention to be named.

 

As I wrote, they're described in every US and World Patent on which he is listed as a co-inventor. If you choose to redefine what it means to be an inventor beyond the definition held by the US and other governments, then that's your personal issue.

 

Designing and inventing are two different things. What's so hard to understand about that?

Just because the all-powerful government labels it as "inventor" well, I guess the book is closed huh?

 

 

Ok, if we say you're right. WIll you shut up now?

 

Still not up to the challenge I see.

 

What's always been interesting to me is that all of the "open-minded" "hip" people have always blindly followed Apple and condemned Microsoft. What I find interesting is that Microsoft doesn't block users from content the way Apple has.

 

The missing "Flash" cartoons posted by someone above are pretty funny never mind the fact that I can't read a Playboy subscription through the Zinio app on my iPad. Why? Because Job's didn't want me to. There's something to be said about that.

 

 

I've never condemned Microsoft or blindly followed Apple. I use products I like. I like Apple computers better than WIndows based PCs. I liked the iPOD better than the competition, I like the iPhone because of it's ease of use but some of the newer competitors sure look nice too. I'm hoping iPhone 5 can compete against the HTC phones. Those look really nice and who knows...i might switch one day.

 

Look, just admit you have some agenda with Apple and we can move on to making nice comments about a man who just passed away.

 

Oh, and he was an inventor.

 

I use Apple products every waking hour. Why would I have an agenda against them?

Yeah, no big announcement yesterday about iPhone 5, only a new iPhone 4. That sure hurt their stock.

[*paull*]

No, it just seems that I'm the only one not confused. I challenge anyone to name just one of Job's inventions.

 

Hahahahahahahaha. You might want to leave the thread now.

 

Not up to the challenge?

 

According to the definition of "Inventor" held by the United States Patent and Trademark Office, Mr. Jobs was an inventor many times over.

 

No one is arguing that he was the second coming of DaVinci or Thomas Edison.

 

 

 

I also challenge someone to explain how Jobs is better than any other major corporation CEO. How about U.S. manufacturing jobs? Where was the philanthropy?

 

Apple became exactly what they railed against in 1984.

 

While philanthropy is nice...it's not a trait necessary for a CEO or anyone.

 

Fact is, he employed tens of thousands of people (if not more) around the world. If that isn't helping people I don't know what is. And if you are talking about overseas cheaper labor, unfortunately all companies suffer from this and it's a reason our economy is hurting. Cheap overseas labor is necessary these days to compete. But, think of all the people in the USA that Apple does employ.

 

Here's an article and excerpt:

 

"A new study by The Journal of International Commerce and Economics sheds some light on this. It looks at the boost in jobs and profits to different countries resulting from the creation of Apple's almighty iPod. Some of the results aren't that surprising. The number of jobs created abroad, for instance -- 27,250 -- was more than twice the number created in the United States -- 13,920. There goes our manufacturing base, but we already knew that. A bit more surprising to some might be that China, at 12,270 jobs, didn't get the lions' share of jobs from the iPod's creation. Countries like the Philippines and Korea prospered more. Both got more jobs in relation to their smaller population sizes than China.

 

What's more interesting, as Chrystia Freeland at Reuters points out, is that Americans got the biggest boost in incomes from the invention. The 13,920 American workers earned more than twice the amount earned in Apple jobs abroad ($750 million for Americans, versus less than $320 million for non-Americans). According to the Economist's Ryan Avent, that just goes to show that, contrary to what a lot of U.S. politicians and labor advocates would have you believe, U.S. companies are still pitching in when it comes to boosting U.S. incomes, and U.S. growth."

 

http://curiouscapitalist.blogs.time.com/2011/07/07/did-apples-ipod-create-u-s-jobs/

 

And, he took their stock from $10 to $400 in a little over 10 years. I'd say that's a reason he might be better than other major corp CEOs.

 

I don't think the man walked on water but in the scheme of people who made an impact on this world and for the better...I find few in our Govt or private sector who come to mind.

 

Nobody is perfect and we can surely pick apart his failings but it's his overall achievement that I am celebrating today and moving forward for this lost genius.

 

 

 

 

 

Does it bother you at all that all Jobs did was fill the coffers of investors and the company doesn't give back? Even Warren Buffett and Bill Gates have stressed the importance of giving back to the people and the country that made them great. Jobs and Apple? Nothing.

 

So stock price and 13,000 jobs is all you've got?

 

Do we even start talking about privacy issues, lawsuits and child labor?

[The Troll King]

Job's not an inventor, but an innovator.

 

See, I'm not crazy. Happened across this (well, I may be a tad crazy)

[joeypost]

The man who changed the world... Rest In Peace.

 

Changed it twice.

[The Troll King]

Here's an inventor.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Kamen

[bigfiver69]

He's the first man to TRULY bring usuable windows-based computing to the masses. Everyone else is riding his draft.

 

He aggregated the ideas of others form the past, and married them to innovations and physical inventions (the mouse, which Apple introduced and perfected).

 

The operating system that he spearhead the development of at NeXt was the basis of the Mac OS operating system that lead to the imac, the iphone, the ipad and the MacBook Pro that I'm typing this on right now.

 

Didn't invent anything? Sure he lots of people working beneath him to solder the boards, design circuits and put things in plastic boxes... but in 500 years, people are going to speak of Steve Jobs in the breath as Da Vinci, Edison and Ford. In my view, Jobs is at the front of that line.

 

He didn't just invent things that changed the word. He has empowered two generations to invent things that change the world as well.

 

Shep

[Boba]

AMAZING, you people even turn an obit into a debate

[The Troll King]

He's the first man to TRULY bring usuable windows-based computing to the masses. Everyone else is riding his draft.

 

He aggregated the ideas of others form the past, and married them to innovations and physical inventions (the mouse, which Apple introduced and perfected).

 

The operating system that he spearhead the development of at NeXt was the basis of the Mac OS operating system that lead to the imac, the iphone, the ipad and the MacBook Pro that I'm typing this on right now.

 

Didn't invent anything? Sure he lots of people working beneath him to solder the boards, design circuits and put things in plastic boxes... but in 500 years, people are going to speak of Steve Jobs in the breath as Da Vinci, Edison and Ford. In my view, Jobs is at the front of that line.

 

He didn't just invent things that changed the word. He has empowered two generations to invent things that change the world as well.

 

Shep

 

Way to not know what you're talking about.

 

[lilurl-migration]

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[gpanalysis]

This is from a stats oriented blog I often read, Asymco. It's simply titled "Steve Jobs Didn't"

 

Steve Jobs did not create products. He created an organization that predictably and reliably created emotionally resonant products.

Steve Jobs did not make movies. He made a company that predictably and reliably made blockbusters.

Steve Jobs did not wrest market share from competitors. He created new markets that attracted and sustained competitors.

Steve Jobs did not design anything. He gave others the freedom to think about what jobs products are hired to do.

Steve Jobs did not re-engineer processes. He brought engineering processes to works of creativity and the creative process to engineering.

Steve Jobs did not develop new management theories. He showed by example that innovation can be managed.

Steve Jobs was not a visionary. He put the dots together and saw where they led.

Steve Jobs was not a futurist. He just built the future one piece at a time.

Steve Jobs did not distort reality. He spoke what he believed would become reality at a time when those beliefs seemed far fetched.

Steve Jobs was not charismatic. He spoke from the heart compelling others to follow him.

Steve Jobs was not a gifted orator. He spoke plainly.

Steve Jobs was not a magician. He practiced, a lot.

He had taste.

He was curious.

He was patient.

He was foolish.

He was hungry.

 

These things many others can do. Maybe you can.

 

http://www.asymco.com/2011/10/06/steve-jobs-didnt/

[*paull*]

He's the first man to TRULY bring usuable windows-based computing to the masses. Everyone else is riding his draft.

 

He aggregated the ideas of others form the past, and married them to innovations and physical inventions (the mouse, which Apple introduced and perfected).

 

The operating system that he spearhead the development of at NeXt was the basis of the Mac OS operating system that lead to the imac, the iphone, the ipad and the MacBook Pro that I'm typing this on right now.

 

Didn't invent anything? Sure he lots of people working beneath him to solder the boards, design circuits and put things in plastic boxes... but in 500 years, people are going to speak of Steve Jobs in the breath as Da Vinci, Edison and Ford. In my view, Jobs is at the front of that line.

 

He didn't just invent things that changed the word. He has empowered two generations to invent things that change the world as well.

 

Shep

 

 

Does this look familiar to you?

 

 

[*paull*]

This is from a stats oriented blog I often read, Asymco. It's simply titled "Steve Jobs Didn't"

 

Steve Jobs did not create products. He created an organization that predictably and reliably created emotionally resonant products.

Steve Jobs did not make movies. He made a company that predictably and reliably made blockbusters.

Steve Jobs did not wrest market share from competitors. He created new markets that attracted and sustained competitors.

Steve Jobs did not design anything. He gave others the freedom to think about what jobs products are hired to do.

Steve Jobs did not re-engineer processes. He brought engineering processes to works of creativity and the creative process to engineering.

Steve Jobs did not develop new management theories. He showed by example that innovation can be managed.

Steve Jobs was not a visionary. He put the dots together and saw where they led.

Steve Jobs was not a futurist. He just built the future one piece at a time.

Steve Jobs did not distort reality. He spoke what he believed would become reality at a time when those beliefs seemed far fetched.

Steve Jobs was not charismatic. He spoke from the heart compelling others to follow him.

Steve Jobs was not a gifted orator. He spoke plainly.

Steve Jobs was not a magician. He practiced, a lot.

He had taste.

He was curious.

He was patient.

He was foolish.

He was hungry.

 

These things many others can do. Maybe you can.

 

http://www.asymco.com/2011/10/06/steve-jobs-didnt/

 

 

Along with deflecting criticism, the greatest trick that Jobs performed was putting himself as the "face" of the company, as if some benevolent god bestowed gifts upon the masses twice a year, and no one else had a hand in the work. Can you name people on the original Ipod or IOS design teams?

[The Troll King]

A couple of tid-bits about this modern day "DaVinci"

 

After resuming control of Apple in 1997, Jobs eliminated all corporate philanthropy programs.

 

When confronted with a daughter who the mother had been raising on welfare Jobs denied paternity by claiming he was sterile; he later acknowledged her as his daughter.

 

 

[lilurl-migration]

color:#FFFF33]"A new study by The Journal of International Commerce and Economics sheds some light on this. It looks at the boost in jobs and profits to different countries resulting from the creation of Apple's almighty iPod. Some of the results aren't that surprising. The number of jobs created abroad, for instance -- 27,250 -- was more than twice the number created in the United States -- 13,920. There goes our manufacturing base, but we already knew that. A bit more surprising to some might be that China, at 12,270 jobs, didn't get the lions' share of jobs from the iPod's creation. Countries like the Philippines and Korea prospered more. Both got more jobs in relation to their smaller population sizes than China.[/color

Here's an article and excerpt:

 

"A new study by The Journal of International Commerce and Economics sheds some light on this. It looks at the boost in jobs and profits to different countries resulting from the creation of Apple's almighty iPod. Some of the results aren't that surprising. The number of jobs created abroad, for instance -- 27,250 -- was more than twice the number created in the United States -- 13,920. There goes our manufacturing base, but we already knew that. A bit more surprising to some might be that China, at 12,270 jobs, didn't get the lions' share of jobs from the iPod's creation. Countries like the Philippines and Korea prospered more. Both got more jobs in relation to their smaller population sizes than China.

 

[COI]

A couple of tid-bits about this modern day "DaVinci"

 

After resuming control of Apple in 1997, Jobs eliminated all corporate philanthropy programs.

 

When confronted with a daughter who the mother had been raising on welfare Jobs denied paternity by claiming he was sterile; he later acknowledged her as his daughter.

 

 

What are you trying to accomplish here?

[Mark 1]

He's a troll

[Point Five]

AMAZING, you people even turn an obit into a debate

Seriously...

 

 

[Jaded Savage]

Wow. A p i s s i n g contest on how to label a man who just passed away. I hate the internet more and more each day.

[t3quila]

[The Troll King]

A couple of tid-bits about this modern day "DaVinci"

 

After resuming control of Apple in 1997, Jobs eliminated all corporate philanthropy programs.

 

When confronted with a daughter who the mother had been raising on welfare Jobs denied paternity by claiming he was sterile; he later acknowledged her as his daughter.

 

 

What are you trying to accomplish here?

 

I'm merely pointing out that Jobs is a False Messiah and I'm entertained by references to Edison, and DaVinci. He didn't cure cancer, he didn't create world peace, he didn't solve the world's starvation problem, and he sure as hell doesn't walk on water.

 

You'd believe otherwise from some opinions on him.

 

What he did do was figure out a way to make unused technology profitable but only for the sole purpose of lining his pockets instead of actually trying to invent something that the world really could view him as a true pioneer. Instead you get to poke at letters on glass and download the latest Lady Gaga single or Fart Maker app.

 

He won't be remembered 50 years from now, much less 500. But please, I invite you all to continue to amuse me.