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krighton

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Outcast is tv......I think there's a pretty big difference between tv and movie comic hype....though my copies of descender hope it blows up. Probably has to do with a movie being a one shot.

 

Wonder how putting out a movie while the comic is still in production would affect comic sales since the movie would reveal the ending

 

http://comicbookinvest.com/2015/03/10/speculation-in-the-uk-descender/

 

Checking sales, even though the print run is higher, it seems Cover B Lemire is the most desirable of all the variants.

 

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krighton

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when was the last time a movie from an Indy title affected the comics price.

 

 

Very true. Unless it's a big two adaptation, there are small spikes that don't last very long.

 

the comic is still popular and they're not being blown out (pricewise) I guess i'll look at the movie as a bonus if the comic is still being produced after/when/if a movie comes out.

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when was the last time a movie from an Indy title affected the comics price.

 

 

Very true. Unless it's a big two adaptation, there are small spikes that don't last very long.

 

Does D/H's Hellboy count?

 

 

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ygogolak

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when was the last time a movie from an Indy title affected the comics price.

 

 

Very true. Unless it's a big two adaptation, there are small spikes that don't last very long.

 

Does D/H's Hellboy count?

 

 

I would say no because he was a cult favorite before any movie. I also don't think the movie(s) did well commercially. Not to say they weren't good, but again, not near a X-Men or Batman.

 

 

when was the last time a movie from an Indy title affected the comics price.

 

Sheltered

I was thinking he meant long term and something that actually gets made.

Every book that gets optioned sees an initial jump. You can get Sheltered for $4 now and it was an easy $20.

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when was the last time a movie from an Indy title affected the comics price.

 

 

Very true. Unless it's a big two adaptation, there are small spikes that don't last very long.

 

It does seem difficult. Even with something that was a legitimate hit that's going to have a sequel like Kingsmen hasn't really made Secret Service that desirable. I realize that's an Icon book, but still just shows an almost best case scenario (in terms of films success) and have very little effect it had.

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In terms of 'does it really effect the value of the book'... Has their EVER really been a modern comic in the last 20 years, who's real value has increased strictly because a movie or tv show was made about it?

 

I realize their are plenty of little temporary spikes that happen so that the people who are ashamed to be a part of this hobby can sell off all the previously useless copies they'd hoarded, but those aren't real increases in value, if the book just returns to being a $4 book a few months later.

 

When has a movie, tv show, or cartoon, REALLY increased the value of a modern comic, in the last 20 or so years?

 

Walking Dead was already on it's way up, but the tv show, certainly has to be seen as taking a part in it's rise.

 

What else?

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when was the last time a movie from an Indy title affected the comics price.

 

 

Very true. Unless it's a big two adaptation, there are small spikes that don't last very long.

 

Does D/H's Hellboy count?

 

 

I would say no because he was a cult favorite before any movie. I also don't think the movie(s) did well commercially. Not to say they weren't good, but again, not near a X-Men or Batman.

 

Hellboy was a fairly average character in terms of popularity, until the first movie. Prior to that, there was no activity with the books. SDCCC #2 and Next Men #21 were essentially valueless, and nobody had ever heard of Dime Press #4 (I don't mean literally nobody, and I wish I didn't have to type this caveat, but here we are.)

 

That is demonstrated by the fact that there were only 3 copies of Next Men #21 on the census prior to 2003, while in the year and a half from July, 2003 to Dec 2004, the census exploded, going from 19 copies to 230. We don't know how many copies were submitted and when between Jan of 2002 (3 copies) and July of 2003 (19 copies), but it's quite clear that the movie announcement had a tremendous impact on the interest in and value of the character.

 

Likewise, there no copies of SDCCC #2 on the census until the July, 2003 update, and no substantial amount of copies until a year later. SDCCC #2 remains the much more difficult book, with only 377 total copies on the census, compared to 1220 total copies of Next Men #21.

 

Hellboy didn't make back its money, but Hellboy II did fairly well, $160M worldwide against a reported budget of $85M (that's about "break even" money.)

 

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Kyle R.

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In terms of 'does it really effect the value of the book'... Has their EVER really been a modern comic in the last 20 years, who's real value has increased strictly because a movie or tv show was made about it?

 

I realize their are plenty of little temporary spikes that happen so that the people who are ashamed to be a part of this hobby can sell off all the previously useless copies they'd hoarded, but those aren't real increases in value, if the book just returns to being a $4 book a few months later.

 

When has a movie, tv show, or cartoon, REALLY increased the value of a modern comic, in the last 20 or so years?

 

Walking Dead was already on it's way up, but the tv show, certainly has to be seen as taking a part in it's rise.

 

What else?

 

 

Alias # 1 ..........

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TV rumor for Peter Panzerfaust dramatically spiked the cost of #1....Outcast has steadily risen in price with the TV show coming up this summer.....Preacher #1 exploded with TV news.

 

Those Peter Panzerfaust's aren't blowing out the door's at the prices people are trying to sell them for - I'd be real surprised if 5 years from now they held onto even that value, which is a huge fall from where they were.

 

And that's what we're talking about - holding real value over a period of time.

 

Preacher had juice before the announcement, though it has definitely risen, but it'll be interesting to see how much of that spike it holds after things have died down.

 

Outcast has a long way to go before it proves anything.

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In terms of 'does it really effect the value of the book'... Has their EVER really been a modern comic in the last 20 years, who's real value has increased strictly because a movie or tv show was made about it?

 

I realize their are plenty of little temporary spikes that happen so that the people who are ashamed to be a part of this hobby can sell off all the previously useless copies they'd hoarded, but those aren't real increases in value, if the book just returns to being a $4 book a few months later.

 

When has a movie, tv show, or cartoon, REALLY increased the value of a modern comic, in the last 20 or so years?

 

Walking Dead was already on it's way up, but the tv show, certainly has to be seen as taking a part in it's rise.

 

What else?

 

 

Alias # 1 ..........

 

Alias is already starting to cool.

 

Be interesting to see how much of that value it holds.

 

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Look at Watchmen... that's almost 30 years old.... though the movie is less than 7

 

2006 it averaged about $450 a copy for 9.8

The movie was in 2009

In 2015, the majority of sales on GPA for a 9.8 was under $200

 

To be fair, that book used to be pretty tough to find in 9.8. I think the pre-movie hype drew all the nice copies out of storage, destroyed the 9.8 census and, as a result, the book's price.

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ygogolak

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That's not X-Files #1.

 

:facepalm:

 

And still not X-Files #1.

 

You must be the hit at parties with your quick wit.

 

 

when was the last time a movie from an Indy title affected the comics price.

 

 

Very true. Unless it's a big two adaptation, there are small spikes that don't last very long.

 

Does D/H's Hellboy count?

 

 

I would say no because he was a cult favorite before any movie. I also don't think the movie(s) did well commercially. Not to say they weren't good, but again, not near a X-Men or Batman.

 

Hellboy was a fairly average character in terms of popularity, until the first movie. Prior to that, there was no activity with the books. SDCCC #2 and Next Men #21 were essentially valueless, and nobody had ever heard of Dime Press #4 (I don't mean literally nobody, and I wish I didn't have to type this caveat, but here we are.)

 

That is demonstrated by the fact that there were only 3 copies of Next Men #21 on the census prior to 2003, while in the year and a half from July, 2003 to Dec 2004, the census exploded, going from 19 copies to 230. We don't know how many copies were submitted and when between Jan of 2002 (3 copies) and July of 2003 (19 copies), but it's quite clear that the movie announcement had a tremendous impact on the interest in and value of the character.

 

Likewise, there no copies of SDCCC #2 on the census until the July, 2003 update, and no substantial amount of copies until a year later. SDCCC #2 remains the much more difficult book, with only 377 total copies on the census, compared to 1220 total copies of Next Men #21.

 

Hellboy didn't make back its money, but Hellboy II did fairly well, $160M worldwide against a reported budget of $85M (that's about "break even" money.)

 

Great, what's that have to do with the price?

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