Doug Schmell cashing in his vaulted massive collecion. Poll: Is this the top?

[Davenport]

I was advised to remove subject post. So I have. My apologies.

 

What a shame. I would have loved to have seen the 'before' and 'after' auction prices.

I'm thinking once this thread has served its purpose of promoing the Heritage/Schmell offerings, it's toast. Thoroughly scrubbed, if not vanished.

 

The gaming industry always insists it's consumer's responsibility to do their due diligence... except when they do. Sunlight is the game's Enemy #1 and extreme sunlight makes it wither like a cheap cinema vampire.

No way that amazing chart was going to be tolerated. No way in hell.

[lizards2]

I was advised to remove subject post. So I have. My apologies.

 

What a shame. I would have loved to have seen the 'before' and 'after' auction prices.

I'm thinking once this thread has served it's purpose of promoing the Heritage/Schmell offerings, it's toast. Thoroughly scrubbed, if not vanished.

 

The gaming industry always insists it's consumer's responsibility to do their due diligence... except when they do. Sunlight is the game's Enemy #1 and extreme sunlight makes it wither like a cheap cinema vampire.

No way that amazing chart was going to be tolerated. No way in hell.

The truth is out there...., for those who seek it

[fantastic_four]

I'm thinking once this thread has served it's purpose of promoing the Heritage/Schmell offerings, it's toast. Thoroughly scrubbed, if not vanished.

 

The gaming industry always insists it's consumer's responsibility to do their due diligence... except when they do. Sunlight is the game's Enemy #1 and extreme sunlight makes it wither like a cheap cinema vampire.

No way that amazing chart was going to be tolerated. No way in hell.

The truth is out there...., for those who seek it

 

I predict that all involved will inexplicably disappear and that the Smoking Man will disavow all knowledge of their whereabouts.

 

[lizards2]

I'm thinking once this thread has served it's purpose of promoing the Heritage/Schmell offerings, it's toast. Thoroughly scrubbed, if not vanished.

 

The gaming industry always insists it's consumer's responsibility to do their due diligence... except when they do. Sunlight is the game's Enemy #1 and extreme sunlight makes it wither like a cheap cinema vampire.

No way that amazing chart was going to be tolerated. No way in hell.

The truth is out there...., for those who seek it

 

I predict that all involved will inexplicably disappear and that the Smoking Man will disavow all knowledge of their whereabouts.

 

Slabs are made of people?!?

 

Or rather, people who ask too many questions.....,? :think:

[VintageComics]

This is a story I've repeated a few times on this chat forum.

 

True story:

 

A company needs a special resin for their project to work.

 

They order the resin from a 2nd company who is an international commodities dealer.

 

That 2nd company finds and orders the resin from a 3rd company who happens to be in the same building as the 1st company that initially needed the resin. They are only a few floors apart.

 

The 2nd company buys the resin from the 3rd company and have it shipped to their offices only to ship it off back to the 1st company who placed the initial order and charge them a tidy but fair profit for the resin.

 

Again, true story.

 

Do they have any obligation to disclose to the end consumer that they are buying the product just a few feet away from them in a different office and that this consumer could have just walked down the hall to buy the product themselves? Of course not.

 

It is the company's competitive advantage (secret knowledge) that allows them to make (and continue making) a profit by buying from and selling to people within the same building.

 

The other option is that the end user source out the product themselves by putting in the work and effort of locating the original supplier.

 

Multiply that scenario by an infinite number and you now have capitalism.

 

There is nothing nefarious about it.

 

Roy being a hippie as well as a capitalist, I would've hoped this would not be his definition of capitalism. It plays into the view that in capitalism everybody's goal is not to provide a unique service or make a unique product and be paid for it but, rather, to outsmart or outmuscle the other guy. It implies that capitalism is not so much a system which allows people to profit if they do something for the common good but rather a system that ignores (or even applauds) the guy who outmaneuvers the other guy. That valuations should be consistent less in which items are valued than in it is in whose items have value. It plays into the view that America is not the place where a hard-working person can accomplish anything, because having such a place is good for all, but is, instead, a place where everybody looks out for number one, that working smarter not harder means working meaner instead of cleaner.

 

 

 

I want to comment on this since I think you might be misrepresenting my actual, personal position and I don't want everyone remember me as a puppy kicking comic book dealer. I was busy away in Charlotte and didn't really have the time to devote to it over the weekend.

 

I'm a big believer in destiny. You might call me a fatalist or a believer in predetermination. Not to box myself but just to give you an idea of where I'm coming from. I believe that all things work towards a common good eventually. The outcome may not seem to be so much of the time (momentarily), but I personally believe that there is more to this life than just what meets the eye and that eventually, everything works towards the positive.

 

So having said that, we still tend to make our day to day "decisions" based on our surroundings, our need for survival and our need to provide for our families.

 

I don't personally believe in doing "the wrong thing" to get a morsel of bread for a day. I try to look at things in the bigger picture.

 

I do personally believe in doing "the right thing" to get a morsel of bread for a day.

 

That means that sometimes I will pass on an opportunity to make a dollar if I don't believe it to be the "right thing to do".

 

That "right thing to do" is going to be a very personal thing for all people. I'm not talking about taking candy from a baby. I'm talking about whether you pay 65% of guide for a book or 70% of guide for a book...stuff like that.

 

Capitalism, unfortunately, is a pitting of every man against the other. In my mind, I don't know if there is another way to describe it more accurately and succinctly.

 

The Federal Reserve loans money (on paper) to the general public through banks and government and charges interest on that money. There is actually not enough money in existence (circulation) to pay that money back, because you are now owing back not only what is loaned out but also the interest, which increases out of thin air but needs to be paid back from people's work and their wallets. This spreading of a diminishing pool of money through our population forces each and every one of us to fight harder and harder to get a piece of that pie...pitting us against each other as the supply of money gets thinner and thinner.

 

Ultimately, it comes down each person protecting what little advantage or information they have to protect their ability to provide for their family.

 

If you had fire millions of years ago, you protected it. Once you learned how to create fire, you didn't need the protect the fire as much as you did the resources to make it. It evolves. Unfortunately, that meant that people without fire or without resources suffered.

 

We hope that the next person we deal with has as much integrity as the last person, but there are no guarantees. I agree that it's a sad thing. We have entire governments condoning profit from man's suffering (the modern medical system, which Dr. Norman Bethune a famous Canadian and a lifelong humanist, was vehemently opposed against and was one of the reasons we have public health care in Canada today).

 

I'd personally think the world would be a much better place if people shared everything in a socialist society with each other but that is considered a form of evil by some people and not possible by others due to the inherent "greed" we have in our own personalities and so we compromise by finding a balance between our deeds and consciences in trying to navigate it all.

 

So yeah, the subjects of capitalism and socialism are tough subjects to navigate and when you want to put the entire hobby under a microscope, you are going to have some tough conversations just like we are having in this one thread about what is fair and what isn't fair.

[Davenport]

I'm thinking once this thread has served its purpose of promoing the Heritage/Schmell offerings, it's toast. Thoroughly scrubbed, if not vanished.

 

The gaming industry always insists it's consumer's responsibility to do their due diligence... except when they do. Sunlight is the game's Enemy #1 and extreme sunlight makes it wither like a cheap cinema vampire.

No way that amazing chart was going to be tolerated. No way in hell.

The truth is out there...., for those who seek it

 

I predict that all involved will inexplicably disappear and that the Smoking Man will disavow all knowledge of their whereabouts.

 

Slabs are made of people?!?

 

Or rather, people who ask too many questions.....,? :think:

Not to worry. There's plenty of info and charts in that excellent "Manufactured Gold" thread. Due diligence is just a click away. (thumbs u

[fantastic_four]

Not to worry. There's plenty of info and charts in that excellent "Manufactured Gold" thread. Due diligence is just a click away. (thumbs u

 

FYI link's not working

[Davenport]

Not to worry. There's plenty of info and charts in that excellent "Manufactured Gold" thread. Due diligence is just a click away. (thumbs u

 

FYI link's not working

Link is working perfectly. But you aren't allowed to view it: "Access denied".

FYI a tin foil hat might help with reception.

[fantastic_four]

Not to worry. There's plenty of info and charts in that excellent "Manufactured Gold" thread. Due diligence is just a click away. (thumbs u

 

FYI link's not working

Link is working perfectly. But you aren't allowed to view it: "Access denied".

FYI a tin foil hat might help with reception.

 

I think I saw that thread a while back--any idea why it got locked?

[BlowUpTheMoon]

[Davenport]

Not to worry. There's plenty of info and charts in that excellent "Manufactured Gold" thread. Due diligence is just a click away. (thumbs u

 

FYI link's not working

Link is working perfectly. But you aren't allowed to view it: "Access denied".

FYI a tin foil hat might help with reception.

 

I think I saw that thread a while back--any idea why it got locked?

Sunblock was needed? Protecting the masses from harmful rays? Who knows.

[fantastic_four]

Sunblock was needed? Protecting the masses from harmful rays? Who knows.

 

The only questionable locked thread I've seen since I joined were the ones that illustrated how to press a comic...I still don't see any defensible reason to lock those. Virtually all others I see pulled are full of slander or extreme content of some kind. I wouldn't expect this thread to get axed.

[Straw-Man]

I was advised to remove subject post. So I have. My apologies.

 

man, this has my week started off on one helluva wrong foot.

[Straw-Man]

I'm looking through the Heritage listings and I don't see any ASM's from Doug's collection. Is he keeping them ? ....or maybe they're already gone ? GOD BLESS.....

 

-jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u

 

He sold them off a little after starting Pedigree.

 

was he crushed on them as bad as the crusaders want him crushed for ever and ever and ever...?

[fantastic_four]

was he crushed on them as bad as the crusaders want him crushed for ever and ever and ever...?

 

I think he sold them right when he moved to Florida, so I assumed he sold them off to raise more capital for a better house.

[burntboy]

If I understand Heritage correctly, the Collection has bids surpassing 2Million with a full day of internet bidding to go and then onto live bidding.

 

Does anyone have a rule-of-thumb for how much higher this sale might go?? (Given the 1 day and then switch to live bidding).

 

Not surprising that there are a number of $200,000 books...and if I read this correctly, he has a second X-Men #1 in there (a mere 9.4)...

 

 

[RockMyAmadeus]

[jimjum12]

If I understand Heritage correctly, the Collection has bids surpassing 2Million with a full day of internet bidding to go and then onto live bidding.

 

Does anyone have a rule-of-thumb for how much higher this sale might go?? (Given the 1 day and then switch to live bidding).

 

Not surprising that there are a number of $200,000 books...and if I read this correctly, he has a second X-Men #1 in there (a mere 9.4)...

 

 

....I've been outbid on everything, and many books still have plenty of room....4 Mil wouldn't surprise me at all. GOD BLESS....

 

-jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u

[Bfairb]

outbid. damnit.

[JiveTurkeyMoFo]

What I was struck by was the depth of SA Marvel keys in this auction. How many high grade Hulk # 1s, TOS 39s, X-Men # 1s, etc. can one auction take?

 

I'm hoping a couple fall through the cracks and end up being good deals for collectors, but considering where a lot of the bidding is already, I doubt there will be too many bargains.