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'Hobbit' may become a trilogy

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Peter Jackson and Warner Bros. are in negotiations to release the film adaptation of “The Hobbit“ as a trilogy instead of in two parts, two individuals with knowledge of the situation told TheWrap.

 

Jackson wrapped production on the film in early July, posting a picture on Facebook before showing a video from the set days later at Comic-Con in San Diego.

 

While at the San Diego Convention Center earlier this month, the “King Kong” director also teased the possibility of shooting more footage for “The Hobbit.”

 

Talks between Jackson and New Line (a subsidiary of Warner Bros.) have since accelerated, though no deals are in place.

 

A spokeswoman for New Line declined to comment.

 

The dealmaking process is quite complicated, from negotiating new deals with the actors as well as other involved parties including MGM and the Weinstein brothers. As one person familiar with the talks described it, they are going down the food chain of major participants, which starts with Jackson.

 

 

The actors, including stars Martin Freeman and Ian McKellen, also hold a great deal of leverage since Jackson could not film additional footage without them.

 

One individual with knowledge of the conversation said they would combine material Jackson already filmed - and there’s a ton of it - with new footage. Some of that may come from the appendices of “The Lord of the Rings,” which Jackson is quite fond of.

 

When Warner Bros. and Jackson first decided to split the film into two parts, the studio went through the same dance of negotiating new deals with the aformentioned parties.

 

As of now, “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey” will debut Dec. 14 while the second film, “There and Back Again,” is set for Dec. 13, 2013.

 

For Jackson, extending the movie into three parts offers the opportunity to spend more time reimagining his beloved middle earth, the setting of both “The Hobbit” and his “Lord of the Rings” adaptations. All of the “Lord of the Rings” films were released on DVD with extended cuts that featured extensive additions.

 

“I’m not good at making short movies unfortunately,” he joked at Comic-Con. “It’s a skill I’ve never mastered.”

 

For all of the participants, a third film would mean a lot more money as the films are all but guaranteed to succeed at the box office.

 

For Warner Bros., a third “Hobbit” film would also grant the studio another tentpole film at the same time one of its biggest franchises - Christopher Nolan’s “Batman” films - concludes.

 

In the past two years, Warner Bros. has bid goodbye to two profit-churning franchises - “Harry Potter” and “Batman.” It still has an impressive slate of big-budget films booked for next year, including the third “Hangover” film, Guillermo del Toro’s “Pacific Rim” and “Man of Steel,” Zack Snyder’s reboot of Superman.

 

Yet after that, things get murkier.

 

If “Man of Steel” succeeds, the studio can consider a sequel and also fast-track the “Justice League” film in development.

 

Legendary Entertainment, which has a deal with Warner Bros., teased a “Godzilla” reboot at Comic-Con. That company is one of several high-profile partners that the studio can rely on, including Village Roadshow, Clint Eastwood, Leonardo DiCaprio and Todd Phillips.

 

Still, for now, a “Lego” movie is the sole headliner in 2014. A third “Hobbit” movie would change that.

 

The Los Angeles Times first reported that talks about a third movie were taking place.

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Man, these movies are never gonna come out, are they?

 

I don't see it delaying the movie, it just means it will be recut into 3 shorter instalments rather than 2 longer ones.

 

Don't like it though, just a money grab to get people to pay 3 times instead of 2.

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I loved The Hobbit, but I don't think you can really milk three films' worth of material from it. Will he simply tack on an endless wrap-up like Return of the King (which should have ended about 45 minutes sooner than it did)?

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I love The Hobbit trailer. It's got the adventure thing down pretty good. I hadn't read The Hobbit in about 6 or 7 years, but I definitely get the feel of it from the trailer.

 

As long as they end each film properly, I think it will work.

 

The Harry Potter cliffhanger from part one was absolutely atrocious and lame, and was bad enough to convince me to wait until the DVD came out to see the other. I'm not sure what happened with the Twitard cliffhanger for part one because I fell asleep - but my wife said it was pretty lame.

 

Those are examples of fleecing the public, because they weren't entertaining. Each LOTR movie was a movie within itself - and that's why it succeeded.

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I loved The Hobbit, but I don't think you can really milk three films' worth of material from it. Will he simply tack on an endless wrap-up like Return of the King (which should have ended about 45 minutes sooner than it did)?

 

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I was happy they were going to do two movies as it is purely logical for them to do it, but 3 is just a money grab.

If they add another movie it will just drag out. I can't say I'm excited about that.

 

However, if they want to add an additional movie AFTER the Hobbit based on the appendices, I'm all for it. But please don't stick it in the middle and stretch this one out.

 

 

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Ill definitely admit im a LOTR nerd BIGTIME!!!

 

when i was a sophomore in high school our English Lit teacher made us read Fellowship of the ring for class and got me hooked. Now that dude was a LOTR nerd! he could speak Elf, dwarf, orc and something else i cant remember. And im talking FLUENTLY! :screwy:

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I love The Hobbit trailer. It's got the adventure thing down pretty good. I hadn't read The Hobbit in about 6 or 7 years, but I definitely get the feel of it from the trailer.

 

As long as they end each film properly, I think it will work.

 

The Harry Potter cliffhanger from part one was absolutely atrocious and lame, and was bad enough to convince me to wait until the DVD came out to see the other. I'm not sure what happened with the Twitard cliffhanger for part one because I fell asleep - but my wife said it was pretty lame.

 

Those are examples of fleecing the public, because they weren't entertaining. Each LOTR movie was a movie within itself - and that's why it succeeded.

 

Funny how movies succedeed as Serials and folks couldn't wait for the next installment. Not sure why folks think cliffhangers are bad. A tease, for sure.

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Man, these movies are never gonna come out, are they?

 

I don't see it delaying the movie, it just means it will be recut into 3 shorter instalments rather than 2 longer ones.

 

Don't like it though, just a money grab to get people to pay 3 times instead of 2.

 

 

I love it. More JRRT goodness on the silver screen...well worth another $13

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Ill definitely admit im a LOTR nerd BIGTIME!!!

 

when i was a sophomore in high school our English Lit teacher made us read Fellowship of the ring for class and got me hooked. Now that dude was a LOTR nerd! he could speak Elf, dwarf, orc and something else i cant remember. And im talking FLUENTLY! :screwy:

 

Doesn't everyone?

 

Ash nazg durbatuluk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nasz thrakatuluk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul

 

 

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However, if they want to add an additional movie AFTER the Hobbit based on the appendices, I'm all for it. But please don't stick it in the middle and stretch this one out.

 

That's sort of what Jackson says they're doing, including material from the Lord of the Rings appendices in the movie. Here's a partial quote:

 

According to Jackson, Tolkien wrote some 125 pages of notes, included as appendices to “The Return of the King,” which fill in some gaps in the plot of “The Hobbit,” and which help “The Hobbit” speak more to “The Lord of the Rings.”

 

“Tolkien was retrospectively fitting ‘The Hobbit’ to embrace that mythology,” says Jackson. “We haven’t just adapted ‘The Hobbit;’ we’ve adapted that book plus great chunks of his appendices and woven it all together.”

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