mangbus Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 haha after reading all this.. I just had to compile a list of boardies who I would never help out when I attend a show and they need a specific exclusive. I fail to see how this was even an issue. I could only see it being a problem if Menace had gone behind the CBLDF's back to aquire these. He did not. This happens at every show, every time. I always see con exclusives stacked up at vendor's tables (marked up double or triple) on the 2nd and 3rd day and the original booth is sold out. I've waiting in line for 8+ hours to get into a show only to find a line of vendors, VIPs, etc standing in line for the exclusive I waited for. Good thing Nowhere Men is awesome. Same goes for CBLDF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hog Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Id love to go, it's a long walk from Virginia with the flu. Sigh. Just for the record, I love the stark white on the normal copies. Just wish the stock was a smidge thicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicalgems Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Personally I won't be at the con either...that whole pesky job and family thing holding me back...but I'll be in the market for one when the secondary market rolls around after the con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VEI Reborn Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 haha after reading all this.. I just had to compile a list of boardies who I would never help out when I attend a show and they need a specific exclusive. I fail to see how this was even an issue. I could only see it being a problem if Menace had gone behind the CBLDF's back to aquire these. He did not. This happens at every show, every time. I always see con exclusives stacked up at vendor's tables (marked up double or triple) on the 2nd and 3rd day and the original booth is sold out. I've waiting in line for 8+ hours to get into a show only to find a line of vendors, VIPs, etc standing in line for the exclusive I waited for. Good thing Nowhere Men is awesome. Same goes for CBLDF. Great post and I agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murrs Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Holy shiitake mushrooms! People be cray! That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachBum Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I think this was handled really poorly, and I have let both Menace and the CBLDF know that. It doesn't matter if it's for charity or for profit, making show exclusives available prior to the show is not good form. Many people paying to get into conventions are doing so with the intention of buying things they can only get at the con. 500 copies are going to the convention, and I think it's really $hitty to create a situation whereby scalpers lay claim to a large percentage of those copies in advance. -e.s. Eric Stephenson Publisher Image Comics, Inc. www.imagecomics.com If I ramble it's because I've been up for awhile - I've been getting up early trying to adjust to the upcoming time change I have to deal with. I agree with Eric Stephenson. You have to respect the fact that the book is being offered at the convention for the attendees. Setting aside maybe 5% -10% of the print run might have been one thing, but taking almost half the print run off the top with no per person limits, then continuing to take more wait list orders past 400 copies on a 500 copy print run? Even if it was coming from a good place (charity) the book could no longer be considered a con exclusive. The book you say you were trying to prevent from being cornered in the market, has just in fact been cornered by you. The argument being made by boardies here that someone is going walk up to a publisher's table and buy 200 copies... or a few guys are going to buy 100 copies? I've never seen anything like that happen at any convention. And if someone tried they would probably be laughed at. Basically it comes down to this - how would you feel if you were a big "Nowhere Men" fan, stood in line before opening, then you finally went into a convention and were told - "We're sold out, some guy from the CGC boards bought them all". You'd be pissed & and you'd have every right to be. In my opinion if this deal would have gone through it would have had serious repercussions and given the Boards a black eye. A lot of board members would not be able to do business as usual at cons (purchases, signings, etc.) and would be looked upon with suspicion. I enjoy going to conventions. I've gotten to know a lot of board members, creators, and even publishers through them. When it comes to the exclusives I pickup a little of everything where I can but I never go into a convention saying "I'm going to buy out an exclusive & corner the market on this." I look for high grade copies to resell because that's what the CGC board members here want. I find out what the limits for purchase are and I roll with that. I'll stand there with the attendees and sort my books, hell I'll even help pick out copies for the guys next to me. If there is demand here on the boards I find out if I can purchase more, if I can't I move on and let you guys know. Respect the con attendees, respect the creators, respect the comic book publishers, respect the limits at your local LCSs.... respect everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I think this was handled really poorly, and I have let both Menace and the CBLDF know that. It doesn't matter if it's for charity or for profit, making show exclusives available prior to the show is not good form. Many people paying to get into conventions are doing so with the intention of buying things they can only get at the con. 500 copies are going to the convention, and I think it's really $hitty to create a situation whereby scalpers lay claim to a large percentage of those copies in advance. -e.s. Eric Stephenson Publisher Image Comics, Inc. www.imagecomics.com Thank you Eric. I said yesterday a few pages b ack that I hope you would step in and say something. I hope this doesn't make coming to the forums less appealing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeanius Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I think this was handled really poorly, and I have let both Menace and the CBLDF know that. It doesn't matter if it's for charity or for profit, making show exclusives available prior to the show is not good form. Many people paying to get into conventions are doing so with the intention of buying things they can only get at the con. 500 copies are going to the convention, and I think it's really $hitty to create a situation whereby scalpers lay claim to a large percentage of those copies in advance. -e.s. Eric Stephenson Publisher Image Comics, Inc. www.imagecomics.com If I ramble it's because I've been up for awhile - I've been getting up early trying to adjust to the upcoming time change I have to deal with. I agree with Eric Stephenson. You have to respect the fact that the book is being offered at the convention for the attendees. Setting aside maybe 5% -10% of the print run might have been one thing, but taking almost half the print run off the top with no per person limits, then continuing to take more wait list orders past 400 copies on a 500 copy print run? Even if it was coming from a good place (charity) the book could no longer be considered a con exclusive. The book you say you were trying to prevent from being cornered in the market, has just in fact been cornered by you. The argument being made by boardies here that someone is going walk up to a publisher's table and buy 200 copies... or a few guys are going to buy 100 copies? I've never seen anything like that happen at any convention. And if someone tried they would probably be laughed at. Basically it comes down to this - how would you feel if you were a big "Nowhere Men" fan, stood in line before opening, then you finally went into a convention and were told - "We're sold out, some guy from the CGC boards bought them all". You'd be pissed & and you'd have every right to be. In my opinion if this deal would have gone through it would have had serious repercussions and given the Boards a black eye. A lot of board members would not be able to do business as usual at cons (purchases, signings, etc.) and would be looked upon with suspicion. I enjoy going to conventions. I've gotten to know a lot of board members, creators, and even publishers through them. When it comes to the exclusives I pickup a little of everything where I can but I never go into a convention saying "I'm going to buy out an exclusive & corner the market on this." I look for high grade copies to resell because that's what the CGC board members here want. I find out what the limits for purchase are and I roll with that. I'll stand there with the attendees and sort my books, hell I'll even help pick out copies for the guys next to me. If there is demand here on the boards I find out if I can purchase more, if I can't I move on and let you guys know. Respect the con attendees, respect the creators, respect the comic book publishers, respect the limits at your local LCSs.... respect everyone. +1. Very well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mschmidt Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Yep, hit the nail right on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krighton Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) only page I could afford, but it'll look nice framed. Edited February 19, 2013 by krighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I think this was handled really poorly, and I have let both Menace and the CBLDF know that. It doesn't matter if it's for charity or for profit, making show exclusives available prior to the show is not good form. Many people paying to get into conventions are doing so with the intention of buying things they can only get at the con. 500 copies are going to the convention, and I think it's really $hitty to create a situation whereby scalpers lay claim to a large percentage of those copies in advance. -e.s. Eric Stephenson Publisher Image Comics, Inc. www.imagecomics.com If I ramble it's because I've been up for awhile - I've been getting up early trying to adjust to the upcoming time change I have to deal with. I agree with Eric Stephenson. You have to respect the fact that the book is being offered at the convention for the attendees. Setting aside maybe 5% -10% of the print run might have been one thing, but taking almost half the print run off the top with no per person limits, then continuing to take more wait list orders past 400 copies on a 500 copy print run? Even if it was coming from a good place (charity) the book could no longer be considered a con exclusive. The book you say you were trying to prevent from being cornered in the market, has just in fact been cornered by you. The argument being made by boardies here that someone is going walk up to a publisher's table and buy 200 copies... or a few guys are going to buy 100 copies? I've never seen anything like that happen at any convention. And if someone tried they would probably be laughed at. Basically it comes down to this - how would you feel if you were a big "Nowhere Men" fan, stood in line before opening, then you finally went into a convention and were told - "We're sold out, some guy from the CGC boards bought them all". You'd be pissed & and you'd have every right to be. In my opinion if this deal would have gone through it would have had serious repercussions and given the Boards a black eye. A lot of board members would not be able to do business as usual at cons (purchases, signings, etc.) and would be looked upon with suspicion. I enjoy going to conventions. I've gotten to know a lot of board members, creators, and even publishers through them. When it comes to the exclusives I pickup a little of everything where I can but I never go into a convention saying "I'm going to buy out an exclusive & corner the market on this." I look for high grade copies to resell because that's what the CGC board members here want. I find out what the limits for purchase are and I roll with that. I'll stand there with the attendees and sort my books, hell I'll even help pick out copies for the guys next to me. If there is demand here on the boards I find out if I can purchase more, if I can't I move on and let you guys know. Respect the con attendees, respect the creators, respect the comic book publishers, respect the limits at your local LCSs.... respect everyone. You should ramble more often. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicsnyc22 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 You guys can bet from now on, Image will be rethinking the way exclusives are distributed pre/at the show. We've got the publisher's attention now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vader2001 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I think this was handled really poorly, and I have let both Menace and the CBLDF know that. It doesn't matter if it's for charity or for profit, making show exclusives available prior to the show is not good form. Many people paying to get into conventions are doing so with the intention of buying things they can only get at the con. 500 copies are going to the convention, and I think it's really $hitty to create a situation whereby scalpers lay claim to a large percentage of those copies in advance. -e.s. Eric Stephenson Publisher Image Comics, Inc. www.imagecomics.com If I ramble it's because I've been up for awhile - I've been getting up early trying to adjust to the upcoming time change I have to deal with. I agree with Eric Stephenson. You have to respect the fact that the book is being offered at the convention for the attendees. Setting aside maybe 5% -10% of the print run might have been one thing, but taking almost half the print run off the top with no per person limits, then continuing to take more wait list orders past 400 copies on a 500 copy print run? Even if it was coming from a good place (charity) the book could no longer be considered a con exclusive. The book you say you were trying to prevent from being cornered in the market, has just in fact been cornered by you. The argument being made by boardies here that someone is going walk up to a publisher's table and buy 200 copies... or a few guys are going to buy 100 copies? I've never seen anything like that happen at any convention. And if someone tried they would probably be laughed at. Basically it comes down to this - how would you feel if you were a big "Nowhere Men" fan, stood in line before opening, then you finally went into a convention and were told - "We're sold out, some guy from the CGC boards bought them all". You'd be pissed & and you'd have every right to be. In my opinion if this deal would have gone through it would have had serious repercussions and given the Boards a black eye. A lot of board members would not be able to do business as usual at cons (purchases, signings, etc.) and would be looked upon with suspicion. I enjoy going to conventions. I've gotten to know a lot of board members, creators, and even publishers through them. When it comes to the exclusives I pickup a little of everything where I can but I never go into a convention saying "I'm going to buy out an exclusive & corner the market on this." I look for high grade copies to resell because that's what the CGC board members here want. I find out what the limits for purchase are and I roll with that. I'll stand there with the attendees and sort my books, hell I'll even help pick out copies for the guys next to me. If there is demand here on the boards I find out if I can purchase more, if I can't I move on and let you guys know. Respect the con attendees, respect the creators, respect the comic book publishers, respect the limits at your local LCSs.... respect everyone. I have been to a lot of shows with exclusives and in most circumstances dealers/vip's are always getting the show exclusives before it begins. I also have never heard of anyone saying "some guy from the CGC boards bought them all" for example. Just because you go to a show does not mean you are guaranteed an exclusive. Plus you are assuming a lot that all of the board members are going for the resale of these. And I am not saying you would see some up for sale, because I am sure there would be. Sure I put my up for 2, my brother is a huge NWM fan and I thought it would make a great birthday gift for him and 1 for myself. "Respect the con attendees, respect the creators, respect the comic book publishers, respect the limits at your local LCSs....respect everyone" But IMO it does not sound like you respect the person trying to help fellow boardies out that can't make it to the show. No disrespect towards e.s. or you BB intended at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wushugushu Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 That is still an awesome page Krighton Loving that Nate Bellegarde OA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krighton Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) yeah, very happy with it. Covers were way out of my range. Hope my Tyler pages come in soon. Edited February 19, 2013 by krighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murrs Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 nice page! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticmoz Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 And so, like sands through the hourglass, another day goes by in "The Modern Forum" Bless. Between this and the SS forum, it's quite entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCrew Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Maybe Image will make a special CGC boardie variant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) for all of you that are so worried about the "condition" that books are in, there are CGC'd copies of most all first prints available on eBay. Step up and pay the piper, problem solved. Edited February 19, 2013 by ThoseBackPages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katchoo Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Maybe Image will make a special CGC boardie variant. $100 each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
