Disney buys Lucasfilm for $4 billion.

[Dale Roberts]

They also did a good job of showing Anakin getting lost with no one to turn to. It was unsettling.

 

Loved it. The scenes where he killed the sandpeople, fought and lost to Dooku then later killed him, expressed his preference to Padme for a strong leader controlling the Senate, and all of the scenes where Palpatine manipulated him into believing the Jedi were twisted were fantastic. The fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan was the second-best of all the films aside from Darth Maul vs. Qui-Gonn and Obi-Wan...the Anakin battle was far more epic, but nobody in the films can out-maneuver the expert martial arts moves of Ray Park portraying Darth Maul. Palpatine's entirely evil grin when he put the coup de grace on his manipulation by telling Anakin he had killed Padme had me gripped. The scene where the Vader helmet locked closed on Anakin's ravaged body was sublime.

 

I watched part of Episode 3 last night and saw something I had never seen before. Anakin goes to tell Master Windu about the Emperor, and Mace tells him to wait in the Jedi council room. He goes, waiting impatiently, struggling with himself, and a tear falls from his eye. And immediately, he leaves for Palpatines place.

 

I had never noticed this before. I think right there he knew he was going to betray the Jedi, and was sorry about it, but he had to save Padme. Before I had always thought he had walked in at the wrong time in the battle and mistaken what was going on. But I think now, he went there to do anything the emperor wished, in order to save Padme.

[fantastic_four]

I still haven't watched Episode 3 in it's entirety. It was actually on last night on some channel and I did turn to it to check it out. It was the scene where Sam Jackson was fighting the Emperor. It looked hokey to me.

 

We're so used to Jackson's highly expressive voice now that everything Windu did sounded a bit hokey whenever he started raising his voice. It's not hard to imagine Windu starting to whip out Ezekiel 25:17 "the path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men" right in the middle of telling Palpatine that he was under arrest. I also didn't really like Palpatine's sudden momentary transition from capable evil Sith firing lightning from his hands and flipping a saber around like an expert into old man being unfairly overwhelmed by Windu...I didn't buy that and can't imagine how Anakin did. It's the one part of his transformation that required a leap I couldn't identify with that seemed like a screenplay shortcut that didn't work out.

[fantastic_four]

I watched part of Episode 3 last night and saw something I had never seen before. Anakin goes to tell Master Windu about the Emperor, and Mace tells him to wait in the Jedi council room. He goes, waiting impatiently, struggling with himself, and a tear falls from his eye. And immediately, he leaves for Palpatines place.

 

I had never noticed this before. I think right there he knew he was going to betray the Jedi, and was sorry about it, but he had to save Padme. Before I had always thought he had walked in at the wrong time in the battle and mistaken what was going on. But I think now, he went there to do anything the emperor wished, in order to save Padme.

 

I suppose this does help explain Anakin's delusional reaction to Palpatine's thinly-veiled pitiful appeal in the scene where Anakin turns on Windu.

[chrisco37]

I still haven't watched Episode 3 in it's entirety. It was actually on last night on some channel and I did turn to it to check it out. It was the scene where Sam Jackson was fighting the Emperor. It looked hokey to me.

 

We're so used to Jackson's highly expressive voice now that everything Windu did sounded a bit hokey whenever he started raising his voice. It's not hard to imagine Windu starting to whip out Ezekiel 25:17 "the path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men" right in the middle of telling Palpatine that he was under arrest.

 

 

I also didn't really like Palpatine's sudden momentary transition from capable evil Sith firing lightning from his hands and flipping a saber around like an expert into old man being unfairly overwhelmed by Windu...I didn't buy that and can't imagine how Anakin did. It's the one part of his transformation that required a leap I couldn't identify with that seemed like a screenplay shortcut that didn't work out.

 

This is what I didn't get at all.

 

So, since I haven't seen the whole thing...was the Emperors true form the one that we know (from the orig trilogy)? It must be right?

 

At first, I thought he started to be drained using his power against Windu and it aged him. But then, as soon as Anakin stopped Windu form killing him, the Emperor blasted him with more lightning.

 

Oh, and I thought the lightning looked really fake.

 

I guess I need to watch the whole movie.

 

 

 

[fantastic_four]

So, since I haven't seen the whole thing...was the Emperors true form the one that we know (from the orig trilogy)? It must be right?

 

At first, I thought he started to be drained using his power against Windu and it aged him. But then, as soon as Anakin stopped Windu form killing him, the Emperor blasted him with more lightning.

 

Not sure there are many more clues even if you had seen the whole movie as to whether or not that wrinkled skin is Palpatine's true appearance or not other than his generally manipulative nature which I bet you picked up anyway. I presume it is his true appearance and he's some sort of semi-shapeshifter, and that he chose that moment to reveal himself so he could use Windu's attack as an explanation for why he looks like that. I never found extremely compelling evidence for or against that being his real form, but I didn't see anything that happened to him in that scene to cause the wrinkling. Anakin got zapped by force lightning in "Attack of the Clones" and Obi-Wan got zapped by Dooku at the start of "Revenge of the SIth" and I didn't see any skin effects, so how the deflected lightning from his own hands would do that is an unexplained mystery that I presume is a ruse on his part.

 

We're never told in Episode I how Palpatine became a Senator for Naboo, but I'm guessing he's not from there and just pretended that he was to use the planet to gain influence in the Senate. Dunno if his shapeshifting is indemic to his species or if he somehow derived it from the Force, but I'm guessing it's a special trait. His posing as a human seems in line with all the other subtle, hidden political manipulation he planned and executed and comparatively quite minor to the much grander acts of tricking the Trade Federation into attacking the Senate and building the clone army to "protect" the Republic and then using it to wipe out the Jedi and take over the Republic.

[graffix13]

I watched part of Episode 3 last night and saw something I had never seen before. Anakin goes to tell Master Windu about the Emperor, and Mace tells him to wait in the Jedi council room. He goes, waiting impatiently, struggling with himself, and a tear falls from his eye. And immediately, he leaves for Palpatines place.

 

I had never noticed this before. I think right there he knew he was going to betray the Jedi, and was sorry about it, but he had to save Padme. Before I had always thought he had walked in at the wrong time in the battle and mistaken what was going on. But I think now, he went there to do anything the emperor wished, in order to save Padme.

 

Yeah, this is a good scene. One of the reasons why Episode 3 is my favorite.

[Speedy-D]

I still haven't watched Episode 3 in it's entirety. It was actually on last night on some channel and I did turn to it to check it out. It was the scene where Sam Jackson was fighting the Emperor. It looked hokey to me.

 

Episode 1 was a huge letdown. Darth Maul was cool, and that was about it.

 

Not sure if I've even seen all of Episode 2 either. The Yoda fight scene was pretty good though.

 

I love the original trilogy, as dated as they are. Great stuff when I was a kid. I was in 3rd grade when ROTJ came out. I thought the Ewoks were cool.

 

It's a Star Wars prequel, so it's not perfect by any stretch, and yeah that Sammy L. fight was weak. But there are some very strong moments in the movie.

[Speedy-D]

They also did a good job of showing Anakin getting lost with no one to turn to. It was unsettling.

 

Loved it. The scenes where he killed the sandpeople, fought and lost to Dooku then later killed him, expressed his preference to Padme for a strong leader controlling the Senate, and all of the scenes where Palpatine manipulated him into believing the Jedi were twisted were fantastic. The fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan was the second-best of all the films aside from Darth Maul vs. Qui-Gonn and Obi-Wan...the Anakin battle was far more epic, but nobody in the films can out-maneuver the expert martial arts moves of Ray Park portraying Darth Maul. Palpatine's entirely evil grin when he put the coup de grace on his manipulation by telling Anakin he had killed Padme had me gripped. The scene where the Vader helmet locked closed on Anakin's ravaged body was sublime.

 

I watched part of Episode 3 last night and saw something I had never seen before. Anakin goes to tell Master Windu about the Emperor, and Mace tells him to wait in the Jedi council room. He goes, waiting impatiently, struggling with himself, and a tear falls from his eye. And immediately, he leaves for Palpatines place.

 

I had never noticed this before. I think right there he knew he was going to betray the Jedi, and was sorry about it, but he had to save Padme. Before I had always thought he had walked in at the wrong time in the battle and mistaken what was going on. But I think now, he went there to do anything the emperor wished, in order to save Padme.

I thought it was more about not knowing what to do, and just being the impetuous kid that he is, he can't be patient. He wants to do something about it all, and no one's taking the time to show him the right path.

[Speedy-D]

I still haven't watched Episode 3 in it's entirety. It was actually on last night on some channel and I did turn to it to check it out. It was the scene where Sam Jackson was fighting the Emperor. It looked hokey to me.

 

We're so used to Jackson's highly expressive voice now that everything Windu did sounded a bit hokey whenever he started raising his voice. It's not hard to imagine Windu starting to whip out Ezekiel 25:17 "the path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men" right in the middle of telling Palpatine that he was under arrest.

 

 

I also didn't really like Palpatine's sudden momentary transition from capable evil Sith firing lightning from his hands and flipping a saber around like an expert into old man being unfairly overwhelmed by Windu...I didn't buy that and can't imagine how Anakin did. It's the one part of his transformation that required a leap I couldn't identify with that seemed like a screenplay shortcut that didn't work out.

 

This is what I didn't get at all.

 

So, since I haven't seen the whole thing...was the Emperors true form the one that we know (from the orig trilogy)? It must be right?

 

At first, I thought he started to be drained using his power against Windu and it aged him. But then, as soon as Anakin stopped Windu form killing him, the Emperor blasted him with more lightning.

 

Oh, and I thought the lightning looked really fake.

 

I guess I need to watch the whole movie.

 

 

The Emporer's physical transformation wasn't well explained, so we can make up our own reasons for it. In my world, it was a calculated risk on Palpatine's part, to bring Anakin more fully to his side. His let his guard down to the point of real physical danger in order to portray himself as weak and the Jedi as strong and tyrannical, and once Anakin committed himself he lashed out.

[arexcrooke]

I will never see another Stars Wars movie again. I am 45 years old so I saw the original movie from 1977 many times at the theatre. There was never anything like it on the big screen. Then when Empire Strikes Back came out we were in awe of the special effects. I can still remember seeing the Imperial Walkers and sitting there with my eyes glued to the big screen. The story took a big turn and had a bunch of unforeseen surprises. Then Return of the Jedi came out and it was a bit of a let down. There were cool effects and you got the good guy always wins ending but it just didn't seem to wow you like the others. Maybe the ewoks killed it. Launch to Episode 1. WTF is this ? Jar Jar? Really? 1st half the movie put me to sleep. Take away the Darth Maul fight at the end and you have a movie with nothing to offer a fan of so many years. I never bothered to see Episode 2 and waited for Episode 3 to come out on CD.

 

I don't care what the story is about. Any movie you add to the originals will fail because what we all loved about Star Wars in the beginning vanished a long long time ago.

Can we just sum up your post thusly:

YOU DAMN KIDS, GET OFF MY LAWN!

:yeahok:

We get it, things were just better when you were a kid. And you had to walk uphill both ways in a foot of snow. And people respected their elders. And porn stars looked like they had Buckwheat in a headlock. And cars got 8mpg and broke down before 75k miles...

 

Actually you didn't get it. I wasn't saying things were better back then. I was saying it was a big milestone for cinema. It was the 1st time anyone got to see "great" special effects on a big screen. It was also the 1st time a sequel was actually worth seeing. You totally missed my point. Do not pass Go. Do not collect 200.

 

"I dont care what the story is about" "What we all loved about Star Wars is gone" Grumpy old man speak there. With that POV they could make a great movie, a movie that in theory could rival or surpass ESB or New Hope. But your cranky rear end wont go see it cause it isnt 1977 again and nothing is as good as it was then.

Btw, Godfather II predated ESB and was the first sequel worth seeing

[TupennyConan]

[arexcrooke]

[thespazz]

I will never see another Stars Wars movie again. I am 45 years old so I saw the original movie from 1977 many times at the theatre. There was never anything like it on the big screen. Then when Empire Strikes Back came out we were in awe of the special effects. I can still remember seeing the Imperial Walkers and sitting there with my eyes glued to the big screen. The story took a big turn and had a bunch of unforeseen surprises. Then Return of the Jedi came out and it was a bit of a let down. There were cool effects and you got the good guy always wins ending but it just didn't seem to wow you like the others. Maybe the ewoks killed it. Launch to Episode 1. WTF is this ? Jar Jar? Really? 1st half the movie put me to sleep. Take away the Darth Maul fight at the end and you have a movie with nothing to offer a fan of so many years. I never bothered to see Episode 2 and waited for Episode 3 to come out on CD.

 

I don't care what the story is about. Any movie you add to the originals will fail because what we all loved about Star Wars in the beginning vanished a long long time ago.

Can we just sum up your post thusly:

YOU DAMN KIDS, GET OFF MY LAWN!

:yeahok:

We get it, things were just better when you were a kid. And you had to walk uphill both ways in a foot of snow. And people respected their elders. And porn stars looked like they had Buckwheat in a headlock. And cars got 8mpg and broke down before 75k miles...

 

Actually you didn't get it. I wasn't saying things were better back then. I was saying it was a big milestone for cinema. It was the 1st time anyone got to see "great" special effects on a big screen. It was also the 1st time a sequel was actually worth seeing. You totally missed my point. Do not pass Go. Do not collect 200.

 

"I dont care what the story is about" "What we all loved about Star Wars is gone" Grumpy old man speak there. With that POV they could make a great movie, a movie that in theory could rival or surpass ESB or New Hope. But your cranky rear end wont go see it cause it isnt 1977 again and nothing is as good as it was then.

Btw, Godfather II predated ESB and was the first sequel worth seeing

 

Make it 1977 again and i'll go see it. Then I can actually sit in a theatre that holds more than 200 people.

[arexcrooke]

Its your life bossman :shrug: In my opinion (and it plus $2 will get you a cup of coffee) your reasons for not seeing a new Star Wars movies, which you profess to enjoy, makes little sense to me.

But, you do your thing, ill do mine, and we both will be just fine with our decisions

[TupennyConan]

$2 will get you a cup of coffee

 

 

Perhaps you're the one living in the past, Herr Crooke?

[He11blazer]

I will never see another Stars Wars movie again. I am 45 years old so I saw the original movie from 1977 many times at the theatre. There was never anything like it on the big screen. Then when Empire Strikes Back came out we were in awe of the special effects. I can still remember seeing the Imperial Walkers and sitting there with my eyes glued to the big screen. The story took a big turn and had a bunch of unforeseen surprises. Then Return of the Jedi came out and it was a bit of a let down. There were cool effects and you got the good guy always wins ending but it just didn't seem to wow you like the others. Maybe the ewoks killed it. Launch to Episode 1. WTF is this ? Jar Jar? Really? 1st half the movie put me to sleep. Take away the Darth Maul fight at the end and you have a movie with nothing to offer a fan of so many years. I never bothered to see Episode 2 and waited for Episode 3 to come out on CD.

 

I don't care what the story is about. Any movie you add to the originals will fail because what we all loved about Star Wars in the beginning vanished a long long time ago.

Can we just sum up your post thusly:

YOU DAMN KIDS, GET OFF MY LAWN!

:yeahok:

We get it, things were just better when you were a kid. And you had to walk uphill both ways in a foot of snow. And people respected their elders. And porn stars looked like they had Buckwheat in a headlock. And cars got 8mpg and broke down before 75k miles...

 

Actually you didn't get it. I wasn't saying things were better back then. I was saying it was a big milestone for cinema. It was the 1st time anyone got to see "great" special effects on a big screen. It was also the 1st time a sequel was actually worth seeing. You totally missed my point. Do not pass Go. Do not collect 200.

 

"I dont care what the story is about" "What we all loved about Star Wars is gone" Grumpy old man speak there. With that POV they could make a great movie, a movie that in theory could rival or surpass ESB or New Hope. But your cranky rear end wont go see it cause it isnt 1977 again and nothing is as good as it was then.

Btw, Godfather II predated ESB and was the first sequel worth seeing

 

Make it 1977 again and i'll go see it. Then I can actually sit in a theatre that holds more than 200 people.

 

And the only 3D is the projected cone of film on the haze of cigarette smoke

[thespazz]

And you didn't hear the movie next to you because there was only 1 movie playing. Ah the good old days.

[TupennyConan]

I love to nap at the movies.

[montrealfilmguy]

I love to nap at the movies.

 

So people at your showing dont get the famous Wilhelm scream but the less famous Tupsnore ?

[TupennyConan]

I love to nap at the movies.

 

So people at your showing dont get the famous Wilhelm scream but the less famous Tupsnore ?