the blob Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 21 hours ago, Broke as a Joke said: Time to sell my 9.8 if I can get anywhere close to that. People do realize that newsstand back then are not that "rare", don't they? Wow. Indeed, quite possibly a chunk more common, even in 9 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the blob Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 48 minutes ago, bluehorseshoe said: Wow. For the Win. Well done @fett It is too bad. 23 has such a generic mehhhh cover and doesn't even show her. Its like they had a pile of generic covers to use. littledoom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the blob Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Just now, the blob said: It is too bad. 23 has such a generic mehhhh cover and doesn't even show her. Its like they had a pile of generic covers to use. Its almost line bws was spending so much time on the cover he missed the deadline and they had to use it for 24 instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuterboroGuy Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 7 hours ago, Crimebuster said: I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish here. People asked what Red Sonja's first appearance is, probably because there are a bunch of hucksters on eBay claiming that 24 is either her first appearance or first full appearance when in fact it's neither. I'm trying to give them the correct information which is that 23 is her first appearance and her first full appearance. I don't know why you're trying to obfuscate this fact. Okay, apparently you don't like the story in #23. So what. Your logic is sound and argument compelling. I will note (as an owner of 24 but not 23!) that CGC identifies 24 as "First Full Appearance of Red Sonja". I'll take that for my own selfish economic reasons, although I admit that MyComicShop's description -- 1st Full Red Sonja story -- is more accurate. littledoom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bludriver Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 I always thought that #23 was her first appearance and had no idea that #24 was worth almost the same amount of money until recently. If anyone has an old Overstreet, it would be interesting to see if that was always the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark88 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 52 minutes ago, Bludriver said: I always thought that #23 was her first appearance and had no idea that #24 was worth almost the same amount of money until recently. If anyone has an old Overstreet to see if that was always the case. Overstreet 1991-92: Conan #23 1st app. Red Sonja (1973) nm $16; Conan #24 1st full story Red Sonja nm $16. Bludriver, drbanner and HighVoltage 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bludriver Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 minute ago, aardvark88 said: Overstreet 1991-92: Conan #23 1st app. Red Sonja (1973) nm $16; Conan #24 1st full story Red Sonja nm $16. Thanks...for some reason I never knew that #24 was just as expensive and sought after. I own both by the way but my #23 is in mylar and not the #24 as I did not know it was a key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonker Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 52 minutes ago, Bludriver said: I always thought that #23 was her first appearance and had no idea that #24 was worth almost the same amount of money until recently. If anyone has an old Overstreet, it would be interesting to see if that was always the case. The first one I bought, #9 identifies 23 as first and 24 as second: Notice how back then how much attention was paid to who did the art (Adams inks, Ploog, Starlin, a Wood reprint ) I think that is why #24 was valued equally to #23 for awhile there: #24 was Barry Smith's swan song, he both penciled, inked and drew the cover. Bludriver, JTLarsen and aardvark88 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimebuster Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Before first appearances became a big deal, 24 was in demand because of the classic cover and story. The cover was voted by the fans as the top cover of the year at the time (1973 I think?) so it's been a highlight issue since it came out. And the story, "The Song of Red Sonja," is a classic, and the final Barry Windsor-Smith issue. But it's not her first appearance, that's all. If the market determines 24 is more valuable, fine. We all know how important covers are these days, and it's a must have cover. When people in the market claim that its her first appearance or first full appearance, though, whether it's cgc or an ebay seller, it's just an attempt to justify the price by adding meaning that the book does not have. It's mistaken at best and lying at worst. Anyway, enough ranting. I'm going to go eat cake. bluehorseshoe and Real Elijah Snow 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bludriver Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zonker said: The first one I bought, #9 identifies 23 as first and 24 as second: Notice how back then how much attention was paid to who did the art (Adams inks, Ploog, Starlin, a Wood reprint ) I think that is why #24 was valued equally to #23 for awhile there: #24 was Barry Smith's swan song, he both penciled, inked and drew the cover. You can't get older than that...thanks! Just funny how I never realized that. I wonder what other keys I am ignorant of that I may own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThothAmon Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 The debate is pointless. I prefer … both of them. Morganmi and Jasonmorris1000000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmiesta Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 13 hours ago, Quicksilver Signs said: Jimmy Olsen 134 called, wants to have a word with you. Read your PM'S . Quicksilver Signs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 5 hours ago, the blob said: It is too bad. 23 has such a generic mehhhh cover and doesn't even show her. Its like they had a pile of generic covers to use. Actually, the story in #23 was originally intended for #22. But the artwork got lost in the mail, so they reprinted the story from #1 in #22. But it was apparently too late to change the cover on #22. Not surprised they didn't put too much effort into the #23 cover at that point, particularly since the #22 cover was stunning. (Covers swiped from GCD to illustrate the point.) aardvark88, divad and ADAMANTIUM 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littledoom Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Marvel Spotlight 32 has been hot divad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickycollector Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Blade is on fire TOD 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the blob Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Crimebuster said: Before first appearances became a big deal, 24 was in demand because of the classic cover and story. The cover was voted by the fans as the top cover of the year at the time (1973 I think?) so it's been a highlight issue since it came out. And the story, "The Song of Red Sonja," is a classic, and the final Barry Windsor-Smith issue. But it's not her first appearance, that's all. If the market determines 24 is more valuable, fine. We all know how important covers are these days, and it's a must have cover. When people in the market claim that its her first appearance or first full appearance, though, whether it's cgc or an ebay seller, it's just an attempt to justify the price by adding meaning that the book does not have. It's mistaken at best and lying at worst. Anyway, enough ranting. I'm going to go eat cake. Last I looked 23 was more $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 57 minutes ago, pickycollector said: Blade is on fire TOD 13 I'll tuck my head and cry, since I sold a vf- to the LCS for $30 not 2 months ago, was my raw undercopy electricprune 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 hour ago, OtherEric said: Actually, the story in #23 was originally intended for #22. But the artwork got lost in the mail, so they reprinted the story from #1 in #22. But it was apparently too late to change the cover on #22. Not surprised they didn't put too much effort into the #23 cover at that point, particularly since the #22 cover was stunning. (Covers swiped from GCD to illustrate the point.) Blessed to learn something knew today! Hope I have enough brain cells to commit it to memory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post comic_memories Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 interesting how on all issues of Conan 23 in the top left corner it reads CONAN THE "BABBARIAN". EmilC, OtherEric, wormboy and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ADAMANTIUM Posted May 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, comic_memories said: interesting how on all issues of Conan 23 in the top left corner it reads CONAN THE "BABBARIAN". Bob Bob Bob Bob Bob Barian! Barbbariaaaaannn take my hhhhaaaaand! comic_memories, OtherEric, HighVoltage and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
