kimik Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) So will Shazam 1 see an increase in value soon? Currently its doing well, but its not soaring yet like Shazam 28. The Rock hasn't committed to who he is playing yet from what I have read. Shazam #1 Is doing quite well. Glad I was tossing 9.0-9.2 copies of these into my ebay grab bags in 2012 ans 2013 for 1/3 guide. I am glad I snagged this lot a couple of months back from Heritage. #1 is only a VF, but #25 and #28 are beautiful copies. Too bad the 100 pagers are not worth slabbing due to low values - there are some nice potential 9.4+ copies in the mix. http://www.comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?id=1017698 Edited September 2, 2014 by kimik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonzilla Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Which Marvel B&W magazines have the "Star-Lord" ads pre-MP #4? Oooooooh first appearance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeksAreMyPeeps Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 $175MM WW box office on $100MM production budget is a failure. It wasn't a failure, it will turn a profit. Looks like it already did by those numbers. yeah, if the movie theaters didn't take their 50%+ cut of the box office and the studio spent negative $ on prints and ads. this movie would have to have done $300MM WW to break even. The theater's cut changes the longer a movie remains open. Most of the initial money goes to the studio, which is one of the reasons stuff is so expensive at the concession stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 $175MM WW box office on $100MM production budget is a failure. It wasn't a failure, it will turn a profit. Looks like it already did by those numbers. yeah, if the movie theaters didn't take their 50%+ cut of the box office and the studio spent negative $ on prints and ads. this movie would have to have done $300MM WW to break even. The theater's cut changes the longer a movie remains open. Most of the initial money goes to the studio, which is one of the reasons stuff is so expensive at the concession stands But after a bunch of theater chains declared bankruptcy in the early 2000s, these frontloaded deals started to fall out of fashion, says Doug Stone with BoxOfficeAnalyst.com. You can actually look at the securities filings for the big theater chains, to look at how much of their ticket revenues go back to the studios, points out Stone. So for example, the latest quarterly filing by Cinemark Holdings, shows that 54.5 percent of its ticket revenues went to the distributors. So as a ballpark figure, studios generally take in around 50-55 percent of U.S. box office money. According to the book The Hollywood Economist by Edward Jay Epstein, studios take in about 40 percent of the revenue from overseas release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAmazing R.J.S. Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Start seeing Shazam #28 go up in crazy prizes, the Rock just now decided to play the role of Black Adam. In the new up coming Shazam movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 There is only one copy currently on eBay. The others that had been posted either ended before the announcement or have been BIN'd since then. Glad I picked up the HG run from Clink a couple of months back. The #28 is a 9.4+ book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicyouth Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 ya Shazam #28 is extremely scarce. 1-25 aren't tough to find though. took me about a year and a half to find a Shazam #28 in 9.6+ wow that Shazam 28 is going to skyrocket for sure. beat up copies are hard to find of that one, let alone a decent copy. In 2015/2016 look for Spider-man 194 (despite high census numbers, and lots of hoarded copies) Daredevil 131 (wasn't speculated on like 168) Star Wars 1,42,68,107,81 (especially once 2016 rolls around) Marvel premiere #15, first Iron Fist remains affordable despite hollywood rumors... Also All the bronze DC still has to catch up with Marvel. Books like Batman 227 and 232 have lots of room to grow. DC bronze in general has room for growth. Ms Marvel #1 is also still quite affordable, the whole run is solid really. Bullseye Black Cat. anything Star Wars and boba Fett related, and potentially Ms Marvel. Warner Bros could have Lightning in a bottle with Shazam/Black Adam and Rock... reminds me of when they announced that RDJ would play Iron Man, look for Warner bros attempting to tap into that RDJ/Iron man charm with Rock, because he is a funny guy. my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicyouth Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 That is an awful lot for that comic. Sparkle City moves lots of books though. What is going on with Warlock? James Gunn or Joss Whedon forget who, just said in an interview that Warlock's cocoon is in fact, in the post credits scene to Thor 2, and that it is Hatched aboard the collectors ship or w/e in Guardians.. in gotg you see a hatched cocoon briefly. Also Joss is a big Warlock fan so I think they've been secretly trying to fit him in as the big hero for phase 3. so Warlock, or Him unhatched, has already had a movie appearance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 ya Shazam #28 is extremely scarce. 1-25 aren't tough to find though. took me about a year and a half to find a Shazam #28 in 9.6+ wow that Shazam 28 is going to skyrocket for sure. beat up copies are hard to find of that one, let alone a decent copy. In 2015/2016 look for Spider-man 194 (despite high census numbers, and lots of hoarded copies) Daredevil 131 (wasn't speculated on like 168) Star Wars 1,42,68,107,81 (especially once 2016 rolls around) Marvel premiere #15, first Iron Fist remains affordable despite hollywood rumors... Also All the bronze DC still has to catch up with Marvel. Books like Batman 227 and 232 have lots of room to grow. DC bronze in general has room for growth. Ms Marvel #1 is also still quite affordable, the whole run is solid really. Bullseye Black Cat. anything Star Wars and boba Fett related, and potentially Ms Marvel. Warner Bros could have Lightning in a bottle with Shazam/Black Adam and Rock... reminds me of when they announced that RDJ would play Iron Man, look for Warner bros attempting to tap into that RDJ/Iron man charm with Rock, because he is a funny guy. my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakaridis Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 $175MM WW box office on $100MM production budget is a failure. It wasn't a failure, it will turn a profit. Looks like it already did by those numbers. yeah, if the movie theaters didn't take their 50%+ cut of the box office and the studio spent negative $ on prints and ads. this movie would have to have done $300MM WW to break even. The theater's cut changes the longer a movie remains open. Most of the initial money goes to the studio, which is one of the reasons stuff is so expensive at the concession stands But after a bunch of theater chains declared bankruptcy in the early 2000s, these frontloaded deals started to fall out of fashion, says Doug Stone with BoxOfficeAnalyst.com. You can actually look at the securities filings for the big theater chains, to look at how much of their ticket revenues go back to the studios, points out Stone. So for example, the latest quarterly filing by Cinemark Holdings, shows that 54.5 percent of its ticket revenues went to the distributors. So as a ballpark figure, studios generally take in around 50-55 percent of U.S. box office money. According to the book The Hollywood Economist by Edward Jay Epstein, studios take in about 40 percent of the revenue from overseas release That is pretty much correct. The cut of the theaters depends on the specific deal the production company does with them, and it's on a case by case basis. It's true that, for blockbuster films (which, in general, are much more "front-loaded") the studios get slightly bigger cuts for the opening weekend than the rest of the film's run, but those only translate to 60% or so, which drops to 40% (or even lower) as the run progresses. As paperheart says, a good rule of thumb is that the studio makes roughly 55% from total US gross. For international ticket sales, the cut is probably closer 30-35% (not the same for all countries - it's smaller in Japan or China than in Brazil or the UK, for example). With those numbers, Hercules has made about 40M in the US and an extra 30-35 in the rest of the world. And from that you have to subtract the printing costs, advertising budget, blah, blah, blah. So, yeah, it's still very much in the red. I don't doubt it'll make some respectable money from DVD and BluRay sales, but it's definitely not a "success" by any definition of the word, unless the definition is "it did better than Sin City 2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garlanda Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 That is an awful lot for that comic. Sparkle City moves lots of books though. What is going on with Warlock? James Gunn or Joss Whedon forget who, just said in an interview that Warlock's cocoon is in fact, in the post credits scene to Thor 2, and that it is Hatched aboard the collectors ship or w/e in Guardians.. in gotg you see a hatched cocoon briefly. Also Joss is a big Warlock fan so I think they've been secretly trying to fit him in as the big hero for phase 3. so Warlock, or Him unhatched, has already had a movie appearance! Is there any thought that the cocoon is actually Paragon/Her? She has many fewer appearances to pursue if you want to cover your bases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the blob Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) ya Shazam #28 is extremely scarce. 1-25 aren't tough to find though. took me about a year and a half to find a Shazam #28 in 9.6+ wow that Shazam 28 is going to skyrocket for sure. beat up copies are hard to find of that one, let alone a decent copy. my 2 cents well, you hoarding a bunch of the nice copies doesn't help the supply portion of the equation it does seem less common than some of the other issues though i have been looking to get a cheap copy in a $2 or less box for about 5 years since I decided black adam seemed like an interesting character with no such luck, so I guess there aren't palettes of those sitting around at shows Edited September 4, 2014 by the blob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 ya Shazam #28 is extremely scarce. 1-25 aren't tough to find though. took me about a year and a half to find a Shazam #28 in 9.6+ wow that Shazam 28 is going to skyrocket for sure. beat up copies are hard to find of that one, let alone a decent copy. my 2 cents well, you hoarding a bunch of the nice copies doesn't help the supply portion of the equation it does seem less common than some of the other issues though i have been looking to get a cheap copy in a $2 or less box for about 5 years since I decided black adam seemed like an interesting character with no such luck, so I guess there aren't palettes of those sitting around at shows joescomics posted that pic. sadly, my OO run ended at #27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whetteon Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Just echoing what everyone is already saying: Shazam #28 @ $61 & 112 watchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69CamaroZ28 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Wow, just saw that ebay listing. $86 and doesn't end until tomorrow That's crazy! I don't know if any of mine are NM(ish), but they are ALL in better shape than that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mijael.Levy Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 ya Shazam #28 is extremely scarce. 1-25 aren't tough to find though. took me about a year and a half to find a Shazam #28 in 9.6+ wow that Shazam 28 is going to skyrocket for sure. beat up copies are hard to find of that one, let alone a decent copy. In 2015/2016 look for Spider-man 194 (despite high census numbers, and lots of hoarded copies) Daredevil 131 (wasn't speculated on like 168) Star Wars 1,42,68,107,81 (especially once 2016 rolls around) Marvel premiere #15, first Iron Fist remains affordable despite hollywood rumors... Also All the bronze DC still has to catch up with Marvel. Books like Batman 227 and 232 have lots of room to grow. DC bronze in general has room for growth. Ms Marvel #1 is also still quite affordable, the whole run is solid really. Bullseye Black Cat. anything Star Wars and boba Fett related, and potentially Ms Marvel. Warner Bros could have Lightning in a bottle with Shazam/Black Adam and Rock... reminds me of when they announced that RDJ would play Iron Man, look for Warner bros attempting to tap into that RDJ/Iron man charm with Rock, because he is a funny guy. my 2 cents A VF copy sold in $300 so thats easy like $3,500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Wow, just saw that ebay listing. $86 and doesn't end until tomorrow That's crazy! I don't know if any of mine are NM(ish), but they are ALL in better shape than that one. They are eBay NM then....... Some of them look nice in that pic. (thumbs u Edited September 4, 2014 by kimik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69CamaroZ28 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 $300 seems a little far fetched for a VF. I'll have to look them over when I get home later. I feel pretty good about some of these crazy price increases (when I already have them), but I always seem to not have enough time to sell. Wife works evenings and I've got the little ones to tend to. Maybe I'll try listing a few books in the next few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the blob Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 well if you decide to list them all at once you are sure not to get top dollar for them. leak them out every couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderM Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Wow - I wish I had some Shazam 28 to sell.... I'm certainly not buying any at these prices. Then I would rather spend my time looking for a Marvel Family 1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
