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Copper's Heating/Selling Well on Ebay
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Also, to play devil's advocate, what does it matter how many mint issues are out there? That hasn't stop New Mutants #98 from being a solid $100+ book has it? It hasn't stop Hulk #181 from being a $2000+ book has it? I find your logic strange if you think the market will cease to purchase this book simple because there are too many mint copies available.

 

At some point it does matter though. Just too many copies out there on some titles. How many comic collectors are actually out there plunking down for $100 books nowadays? I have plucked many a SMOS 18 out of dollar and less boxes, bagged and boarded in pristinish condition, and this is recently as it only got on my radaar in the last 12-18 months...before that I avoided the death of superman stuff like the plague.

 

I can't figure out NM 98 though, but I can say it has not been an easy find for dollar boxes in a long time as I have definitely been on the look-out for it for the last 5-8 years and have had better luck pulling NTT #2s out on the cheap. I actually don't think the print-run was vast like with NM 100, but it wasn't 70-90Kish like NM 87 probably was (when Liefield started on NM the book was about to get pulled from newstands because of low circulation, which I think was in the 80ks then for Marvels, but 98 was almost a year later, so Liefield had gotten the #s way up.

 

 

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At some point it does matter though. Just too many copies out there on some titles. How many comic collectors are actually out there plunking down for $100 books nowadays?

 

There are tons of collectors willing to buy books for $100 to $200 at local shows, but over that you hit some price resistance for non-keys. NM #98s in VF or better sell for $150 without any hesitation, and I can get up to $100 for FN/FN+ ASM #300s. ASM #361 in VF or better get snapped up at $40 apiece within minutes of being put out at busy shows.. At the Calgary show in April, we had a guy come by our booth to show off his great buy - a 6.5/7.0 NTT #2 for $60. He said that it was cheap as most of the other copies at the show were priced at $80+. doh!

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Also, to play devil's advocate, what does it matter how many mint issues are out there? That hasn't stop New Mutants #98 from being a solid $100+ book has it? It hasn't stop Hulk #181 from being a $2000+ book has it? I find your logic strange if you think the market will cease to purchase this book simple because there are too many mint copies available.

 

NM 98 sells because of the imminent movie and Deadpool's appearance in the first Wolverine movie. A character's other media appearance can be attributed to many of the copper age rises in the past few years. Until you hear about that movie featuring Nightwing, the supply of Tales of the Teen Titans 44, which is large, will keep the prices tamed.

 

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Also, to play devil's advocate, what does it matter how many mint issues are out there? That hasn't stop New Mutants #98 from being a solid $100+ book has it? It hasn't stop Hulk #181 from being a $2000+ book has it? I find your logic strange if you think the market will cease to purchase this book simple because there are too many mint copies available.

 

NM 98 sells because of the imminent movie and Deadpool's appearance in the first Wolverine movie. A character's other media appearance can be attributed to many of the copper age rises in the past few years. Until you hear about that movie featuring Nightwing, the supply of Tales of the Teen Titans 44, which is large, will keep the prices tamed.

 

I would argue but I don't know what that gets us. We will have to wait and see what the market decides.

 

For now we do know that the market has deemed this book worthy enough to cause prices to spike. For how long I don't know and will NM supplies rush in to meet a growing demand.. again - unknown. :foryou:

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Also, to play devil's advocate, what does it matter how many mint issues are out there? That hasn't stop New Mutants #98 from being a solid $100+ book has it? It hasn't stop Hulk #181 from being a $2000+ book has it? I find your logic strange if you think the market will cease to purchase this book simple because there are too many mint copies available.

 

NM 98 sells because of the imminent movie and Deadpool's appearance in the first Wolverine movie. A character's other media appearance can be attributed to many of the copper age rises in the past few years. Until you hear about that movie featuring Nightwing, the supply of Tales of the Teen Titans 44, which is large, will keep the prices tamed.

 

I don't entirely agree with you - to many people, Deadpool is an interesting and attention-grabbing enough character to want his first appearance. I will agree that the prices are higher because of the movie links, but the book would sell regardless. I bought the book because I think the cover is badass and it was on a list of keys I wanted, with the added bonus of it being a good seller.

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At some point it does matter though. Just too many copies out there on some titles. How many comic collectors are actually out there plunking down for $100 books nowadays?

 

There are tons of collectors willing to buy books for $100 to $200 at local shows, but over that you hit some price resistance for non-keys. NM #98s in VF or better sell for $150 without any hesitation, and I can get up to $100 for FN/FN+ ASM #300s. ASM #361 in VF or better get snapped up at $40 apiece within minutes of being put out at busy shows.. At the Calgary show in April, we had a guy come by our booth to show off his great buy - a 6.5/7.0 NTT #2 for $60. He said that it was cheap as most of the other copies at the show were priced at $80+. doh!

 

jeez louise, i should shlep a van of comics up to canada!

 

But really, I'm more talking about tens of thousands of collectors out there...like in 1992 let's say, huge #s of people in that kind of market. i have to think there are fewer now? or are there as many now, but a lot fewer people speculating on the next $5-$15 book?

 

my local shop has a NM looking NM 98 sitting up behind the counter for $100 I think (I'll re-check) and it has been there a while. very busy location.

 

 

so if there's a book with 500,000 copies out and about and 20,000 collectors in the market to plunk down $100 for a copy...you see how supply is eventually going to push the sales figure number down. it's just econ 101. same reason why the barry bonds RC card was almost worthless before the steroids stuff.

 

with that said, i guess that a CGC 9.8 is a hard enough grade to get that it will keep the #s under control and the sales prices up for some of the high print run keys out there. the $150 VF NM 98 is a head scratcher though.

 

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I would be happy to buy Copper keys from boardies at US prices to flip locally. :devil:

 

Alberta is an interesting market place right now. We have more younger collectors and comic buyers at shows than older ones. I have had kids that look 11 or 12 plunk down $100+ on SA books this year. There are also a lot of female collectors that have entered the market over the past two years which is great to see as well.

 

A mid 20s local collector I bought some books from this summer made an interesting comment to me a couple of months ago when we met. He is a skilled tradesman, and he said that most of the trades people he knows around the same age read new books and are collecting older books now as they have high paying jobs and high disposable income levels.

 

This is reflected in the health of the local comic stores as well. One small owner had to pick up a construction job and reduce store hours to make ends meet a few years ago. Last year he quit the construction job as he was making enough from the store on reduced hours (only open Wednesday, Thurs & Friday evenings, and Saturday) to more than replace that income.

 

 

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A lot of it has to do with disposable income - Canada's economy has rebounded well following the financial crisis. I know out west we have a younger population that is well paid thanks to the energy and mining sectors (and agriculture is doing very well right now), and with comics being close to/mainstream now the hobby is doing well as a result of this.

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A lot of it has to do with disposable income - Canada's economy has rebounded well following the financial crisis. I know out west we have a younger population that is well paid thanks to the energy and mining sectors (and agriculture is doing very well right now), and with comics being close to/mainstream now the hobby is doing well as a result of this.

 

i thought greggy sent a check for $1,000 to every Canadian

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A lot of it has to do with disposable income - Canada's economy has rebounded well following the financial crisis. I know out west we have a younger population that is well paid thanks to the energy and mining sectors (and agriculture is doing very well right now), and with comics being close to/mainstream now the hobby is doing well as a result of this.

 

i thought greggy sent a check for $1,000 to every Canadian

 

Mine is obviously still in the mail.... :taptaptap:

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I would be happy to buy Copper keys from boardies at US prices to flip locally. :devil:

 

Alberta is an interesting market place right now. We have more younger collectors and comic buyers at shows than older ones. I have had kids that look 11 or 12 plunk down $100+ on SA books this year. There are also a lot of female collectors that have entered the market over the past two years which is great to see as well.

 

A mid 20s local collector I bought some books from this summer made an interesting comment to me a couple of months ago when we met. He is a skilled tradesman, and he said that most of the trades people he knows around the same age read new books and are collecting older books now as they have high paying jobs and high disposable income levels.

 

This is reflected in the health of the local comic stores as well. One small owner had to pick up a construction job and reduce store hours to make ends meet a few years ago. Last year he quit the construction job as he was making enough from the store on reduced hours (only open Wednesday, Thurs & Friday evenings, and Saturday) to more than replace that income.

 

 

Very interesting. I hope to see this in the US market. I am very fearful of a drop in collector's for this next generation.

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