The Man of Steel is the new benchmark,as DC`s future is bright!

[Flaming_Telepath]

to the OP:

I find it very interesting that your post mentions video games and compares the Man of Steel film to that genre. I agree with that. I felt I watched someone else play a Superman fight game rather than an awesome movie.

 

That's what I figured. What I can't figure out is how some of my non board comic book buddies can talk about the movie, say they're "huge" fans of Superman and then say with a straight face how they "finally got Superman right".

 

Am I missing something in the translation?

 

Comic collectors are the old guard and gamers are the future, I guess.

 

Maybe. I read Mark Waid's reveiw of the movie and he called it "joyless". ::sigh::

Name me one good comic book written by Mark Waid?

 

 

You lost me at this point.

 

Waid is - and has been for 15 years - one of the better writers in the comic book medium.

I am sure he is a decent comic book writer,but ask yourself

if millions read his best comic book work over these last 15 years would it entertain millions of people like videogames such as

 

The answer is not likely.

Waid`s style maybe was big in the 1990s,but millions of people have been exposed to a fast pace kinda style now.

Cellphones,HDTV,Internet and videogames.

Man of Steel fits right in with this new fast paced style of exciting entertainment.

Waid`s stuff is something that would work maybe as a weekly tv show.

 

So, because more people play video games than read Waid's comics, they are better and more 'exciting entertainment'?

 

In which case, internet porn is the pinnacle of creativity.

Sex sells as aren`t bondage,good girl art and headlight golden age covers the most popular amongst golden age collectors.

If you have been exposed to playing modern videogames then yes,as Waid`s or just about any comic book comes out a tad pedestrian now.The genie is out of the bottle. It`s like comparing dial up to broadband.There is really no contest. I am sorry you have missed out on the experiences and fun of playing some top notch video games this last decade.Really they are cutting edge. Only certain shows like Game of Thrones,Dexter,Mad Men,Sons of Anarchy and Breaking Bad can give them a run for their money.That is how high the quality that videogames is at now. Remember how comics are not for kids,well the majorty of videogames are now played by adults. In fact more adults play videogames then read comics. So if your business smart you will market to these mainstream videogamers much more then you would to a niche comic book audience. Bigger market means way more money!

Also Hollywood is now doing a better job as well with superheroes then comics. The Nolan trilogy was better then any Batman comic book I ever read.

Same with Iron Man and now Superman,as their movie counterparts are far more interesting than anything comics has given us recently.

Also I take umbrage in that videogames are talked down on here. This seems certainly ironic from a group of people whose comic books were always put down as being juvenile fiction by mainstreamers. So are you trying to say that the modern videogame is more juvenile than a modern comic book?

Lastly maybe Waid is a decent funnybook writer,but he certainly isn`t much of a businessman as Warner was smart to go their way,and not Waid`s way.

Man of Steel on it`s way to being a blockbuster!

I will stand by my statement the Man of Steel is now the benchmark that all other superhero movies will follow now.

 

You're trying to compare apples and trimarans to justify your own personal preference.

 

That's all it is...your personal preference. You like Superman, you like video games...but that doesn't mean they are the best forms of entertainment out there.

 

And I do play video games. I'm not obsessed, but I play them and I enjoy them.

 

But I'd never attempt to make a comparison between them and going to the opera, or bungee jumping, or playing chess, or...

 

And the desperate need to 'prove' that your chosen pastime is 'the best' is somewhat...baffling, to be diplomatic.

[Logan510]

Listen, I love comics as much as the next guy.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure what your response means.

 

Should I feel insulted or not?

 

Do I start a flame war or thank you for support?

 

Help, help.

 

[Logan510]

Listen, I love comics as much as the next guy.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure what your response means.

 

Should I feel insulted or not?

 

Do I start a flame war or thank you for support?

 

Help, help.

 

If I understand correctly, he has a very narrow definition of what a "true comic lover" is. And the fact that you even saw this movie automatically disqualifies you from that group.

 

So no, it's no supportive but no, you definitely do not want to get in a flame-war over it either. Best to let it lie.

 

You do not understand correctly, but thanks for trying.

[Number 6]

Listen, I love comics as much as the next guy.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure what your response means.

 

Should I feel insulted or not?

 

Do I start a flame war or thank you for support?

 

Help, help.

 

If I understand correctly, he has a very narrow definition of what a "true comic lover" is. And the fact that you even saw this movie automatically disqualifies you from that group.

 

So no, it's no supportive but no, you definitely do not want to get in a flame-war over it either. Best to let it lie.

 

You do not understand correctly, but thanks for trying.

 

Why does that not surprise me ?

 

[Logan510]

Listen, I love comics as much as the next guy.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure what your response means.

 

Should I feel insulted or not?

 

Do I start a flame war or thank you for support?

 

Help, help.

 

If I understand correctly, he has a very narrow definition of what a "true comic lover" is. And the fact that you even saw this movie automatically disqualifies you from that group.

 

So no, it's no supportive but no, you definitely do not want to get in a flame-war over it either. Best to let it lie.

 

You do not understand correctly, but thanks for trying.

 

Why does that not surprise me ?

 

 

Nope, I do not accept your metaphorical tousling of my hair. Unfortunately the lies that certain people have repeated again and again have taken hold. Perception has become reality.

[Bosco685]

What the heck happened to a decent thread?

 

300 suckz, dummy!!

 

 

I didn't film it. Otherwise, I would say, "What do I care? I still got your four dollars! BWHAAAHAAAA....."

 

[Hado]

 

So, because more people play video games than read Waid's comics, they are better and more 'exciting entertainment'?

 

In which case, internet porn is the pinnacle of creativity.

 

Finally, something I think we can ALL agree with.

+ lots

[Maccai3]

Michael Shannon should be applauded for his Zod, he was excellent

[Bio-Rupp]

Michael Shannon should be applauded for his Zod, he was excellent

 

He was awesome wasn't he. The man can act

[Marvelfangirl]

Michael Shannon should be applauded for his Zod, he was excellent

 

He was awesome wasn't he. The man can act

Indeed

[Maccai3]

Michael Shannon should be applauded for his Zod, he was excellent

 

He was awesome wasn't he. The man can act

 

he just took over every scene he was in, a brilliantly villainous performance

[Bio-Rupp]

I'm going to add that Faora (played by actress Antje Traue) was gorgeous and a fantastic, alternative baddie to Zod.

 

She looked much better in MOS compared to this appearance 36 years ago.

 

[Maccai3]

I'm going to add that Faora (played by actress Antje Traue) was gorgeous and a fantastic, alternative baddie to Zod.

 

She looked much better in MOS compared to this appearance 36 years ago.

 

 

i like how their "Non" character seemed to be all CG, no tall actors made the cut but Faora was great too.

 

 

[ComicConnoisseur]

to the OP:

I find it very interesting that your post mentions video games and compares the Man of Steel film to that genre. I agree with that. I felt I watched someone else play a Superman fight game rather than an awesome movie.

 

That's what I figured. What I can't figure out is how some of my non board comic book buddies can talk about the movie, say they're "huge" fans of Superman and then say with a straight face how they "finally got Superman right".

 

Am I missing something in the translation?

 

Comic collectors are the old guard and gamers are the future, I guess.

 

Maybe. I read Mark Waid's reveiw of the movie and he called it "joyless". ::sigh::

Name me one good comic book written by Mark Waid?

 

 

You lost me at this point.

 

Waid is - and has been for 15 years - one of the better writers in the comic book medium.

I am sure he is a decent comic book writer,but ask yourself

if millions read his best comic book work over these last 15 years would it entertain millions of people like videogames such as

 

The answer is not likely.

Waid`s style maybe was big in the 1990s,but millions of people have been exposed to a fast pace kinda style now.

Cellphones,HDTV,Internet and videogames.

Man of Steel fits right in with this new fast paced style of exciting entertainment.

Waid`s stuff is something that would work maybe as a weekly tv show.

 

So, because more people play video games than read Waid's comics, they are better and more 'exciting entertainment'?

 

In which case, internet porn is the pinnacle of creativity.

Sex sells as aren`t bondage,good girl art and headlight golden age covers the most popular amongst golden age collectors.

If you have been exposed to playing modern videogames then yes,as Waid`s or just about any comic book comes out a tad pedestrian now.The genie is out of the bottle. It`s like comparing dial up to broadband.There is really no contest. I am sorry you have missed out on the experiences and fun of playing some top notch video games this last decade.Really they are cutting edge. Only certain shows like Game of Thrones,Dexter,Mad Men,Sons of Anarchy and Breaking Bad can give them a run for their money.That is how high the quality that videogames is at now. Remember how comics are not for kids,well the majorty of videogames are now played by adults. In fact more adults play videogames then read comics. So if your business smart you will market to these mainstream videogamers much more then you would to a niche comic book audience. Bigger market means way more money!

Also Hollywood is now doing a better job as well with superheroes then comics. The Nolan trilogy was better then any Batman comic book I ever read.

Same with Iron Man and now Superman,as their movie counterparts are far more interesting than anything comics has given us recently.

Also I take umbrage in that videogames are talked down on here. This seems certainly ironic from a group of people whose comic books were always put down as being juvenile fiction by mainstreamers. So are you trying to say that the modern videogame is more juvenile than a modern comic book?

Lastly maybe Waid is a decent funnybook writer,but he certainly isn`t much of a businessman as Warner was smart to go their way,and not Waid`s way.

Man of Steel on it`s way to being a blockbuster!

I will stand by my statement the Man of Steel is now the benchmark that all other superhero movies will follow now.

 

You're trying to compare apples and trimarans to justify your own personal preference.

 

That's all it is...your personal preference. You like Superman, you like video games...but that doesn't mean they are the best forms of entertainment out there.

 

And I do play video games. I'm not obsessed, but I play them and I enjoy them.

 

But I'd never attempt to make a comparison between them and going to the opera, or bungee jumping, or playing chess, or...

 

And the desperate need to 'prove' that your chosen pastime is 'the best' is somewhat...baffling, to be diplomatic.

To clarify my major point is this.

Hollywood isn`t targeting the smaller comic book audience.

Hollywood is targeting the much larger videogame audience.

They tried to pander to the comic book audience with Superman Returns and Green Lantern(They had Morrision and Johns input).

That failed.

They now pandered to the more mainstream videogame audience and have hit a homerun with major blockbuster results.

This is now one of the reasons why Man of Steel is now the benchmark,as future superheroes movies will be based on the fast paced energetic video game style like Man of Steel.

Also to further support my case what is the hottest DC Comic book out there right now?

One final thought on this for the day.

Just think the short sighted comics industry could only make Superman cool by killing him.

Hollywood made him cool by telling a kick arse story.

With that I wish you and every board member who is a father a Happy Father`s Day.

 

[Logan510]

[joecgcmaniac]

 

 

[Maccai3]

Also to further support my case what is the hottest DC Comic book out there right now?

 

Sales wise? Batman...

 

Injustice's sales were around 20,000 an issue

[Bosco685]

Foreign Box Office: 'Man of Steel' Big in U.K., Pushing Overseas Total to $25.9 Mil

 

The decision to cast British actor Henry Cavill as Superman is paying off in his home country, where the tentpole scores the best opening-day gross of 2013 so far.

 

Zack Snyder and Christopher Nolan's Man of Steel grossed $17.6 million at the foreign box office on Friday, scoring some of the best numbers ever for a superhero film in the U.K. and pushing the tentpole's three-day total to $25.9 million.

 

That puts Man of Steel's worldwide cume at $82 million through Friday when accounting for the $56.1 million earned so far in North America, where it is headed for a weekend debut in the $125 million range. The tentpole's performance is a victory for Warner Bros. and Legendary as they look to resurrect the marquee franchise.

 

Good Lord!

 

Now they are predicting this is going to be a $150 MM weekend for Man of Steel.

 

I wonder what reality will be?

[Maccai3]

Foreign Box Office: 'Man of Steel' Big in U.K., Pushing Overseas Total to $25.9 Mil

 

The decision to cast British actor Henry Cavill as Superman is paying off in his home country, where the tentpole scores the best opening-day gross of 2013 so far.

 

Zack Snyder and Christopher Nolan's Man of Steel grossed $17.6 million at the foreign box office on Friday, scoring some of the best numbers ever for a superhero film in the U.K. and pushing the tentpole's three-day total to $25.9 million.

 

That puts Man of Steel's worldwide cume at $82 million through Friday when accounting for the $56.1 million earned so far in North America, where it is headed for a weekend debut in the $125 million range. The tentpole's performance is a victory for Warner Bros. and Legendary as they look to resurrect the marquee franchise.

 

Good Lord!

 

Now they are predicting this is going to be a $150 MM weekend for Man of Steel.

 

I wonder what reality will be?

 

add it to the $160 in product placement that it alledgedly received then i think they made their money already

[Bosco685]

'Man of Steel' takes flight at box office with $125M debut

 

The Warner Bros. superhero film earned $113 million in its opening weekend at the box office, according to studio estimates Sunday. The retelling of Superman's backstory earned an additional $12 million from Thursday screenings, bringing its domestic total to $125 million. Original expectations for "Man of Steel" ranged from $75 million to $130 million.

 

"They finally got the Superman formula right," said Paul Dergarabedian, an analyst for box-office tracker Hollywood.com. "Superhero movies really are the bread and butter of the summer box office. The fact that 'Iron Man 3' has the biggest opening of the year so far and 'Man of Steel' has the second biggest opening of the year just proves that."