Frisco Larson Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 #53 (again) bc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frisco Larson Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 #54 with splash page bc and Jasonmorris1000000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frisco Larson Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 #55 Jasonmorris1000000, bc and frozentundraguy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Frisco Larson said: This ones for you @bc There's something about that first 10 JIM issues in the PHM set (#s 50-59) that I am just fascinated with (for some unexplained reason)!!! I even want them in any other language that I can find them in. I currently am still missing the #51 & #59, but here are the rest in order!!! Thank you in advance for indulging my nerd-frenzy!!! #50 From one nerd to another - that's the first issue with all "T" job codes !!! -bc Frisco Larson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frisco Larson Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 #56 with splash Jasonmorris1000000 and bc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frisco Larson Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 #57 a rougher copy, but pretty impossible to find. bc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frisco Larson Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 And #58 with splash Jasonmorris1000000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frisco Larson Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, bc said: From one nerd to another - that's the first issue with all "T" job codes !!! -bc That's such awesome info to be cataloging bc!!! I really enjoy the spread sheets and other assorted info that you share with us here! bc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Well, the job code analysis didn't reveal anything new, it just confirms what we already expected. As I mentioned in the last post, new post-Implosion content all carries a "T" job code. There is very little mixing of earlier job codes once the PHM era starts with Strange Worlds 1 (every story in the entire series is a "T" job code). So what issues of the other PHM title exclusively utilize the the new "T" code content? The same ones we have all associated as the first PHM books in the series: Journey Into Mystery 50 Strange Tales 67 World of Fantasy 16 Tales to Astonish 1 Tales of Suspense 1 (although it has one "M" code story-TOS2 on up all are complete "T" codes) So nothing really newsworthy. There is a blog post or two that theorizes that some of the "T" jobs could have been re-numbered "L" and "M" content, but without seeing the Original Art for these stories, there's no way to confirm or deny that. The "T" codes were used from 12/1958 to 1/1961, after that they changed to "V" jobs (1/1961 to 1/1963) and later they used "X" job codes (2/1963 and up). Newer titles like Amazing Adventures and Amazing Adult Fantasy all were "V" codes. The only PHM issue that survived to the "X" codes was TOS38, by then the rest of the titles had switched to superheroes or had been cancelled. Also, there is no correlation between job codes and Monsters vs Other covers. There's also no correlation between PHM content and the early superhero appearances (the "V" code was used until ST105, JIM89 & TTA40 - around Feb 1963). It was a fun exercise either way -bc KirbyJack, Frisco Larson, Jasonmorris1000000 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonmorris1000000 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 15 hours ago, Frisco Larson said: #55 I don’t know about you all, but JIM #55 was the hardest one for me to find to buy. When one did show up, I got in a bidding war and ended up spending 3 times what a #54 would go for. The sad thing is it’s one of my least favorite JIMs. Numbers #52 and 82 are my personal favorites. bc and KirbyJack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyJack Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 For me, it was 52. Finally overspent for one at the SDCC, of all places. About twice FMV, in my case. Jasonmorris1000000 and bc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I hear ya, early PHM JIMs are truly tough to find in the wild (actually all early JIMs are). Must have got lucky - traded a small run of early Avengers for JIM 52-55 back in the day. -bc KirbyJack and Jasonmorris1000000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mucheee1 Posted February 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2021 Frisco Larson, bc, Jasonmorris1000000 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucheee1 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I got the 52 and 55 at SDCC in 2014 (and am sure I over payed, but they are nice looking copies so I didn’t mind so much). Picked up the 82 at a flea market in Jackson MS in late 90’s for $2 (the lady selling them also had ST 97 and Hulk 3 for $2 each, so it was a good day). bc, frozentundraguy and Jasonmorris1000000 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mucheee1 said: Funny, watched a movie about this last night while I was working on the job code database: -bc Mmehdy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 So I was watching some auctions on HA.com last night and noticed this marketing blurb in the AAF7 description: "Amazing Adult Fantasy #7 (Marvel, Dec 1961) Condition: VG-. This book is now considered by many to feature the actual first appearance of the Skrulls, thanks to a retroactive continuity change by John Byrne. It pre-dates the release of Fantastic Four #2, the original first appearance of the Skrulls, by one month. (The Skrulls and the Kree/Skrull war have become an aspect of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.)" Not sure who the "many" they refer to is either... I jumped over to the GCD and sure enough found this: "Why Won't They Believe Me?" (first story in the issue) Job # V-391 Synopsis: A man believes that he has discovered an alien invasion, but he is the real alien, and has amnesia. (bc side note: the alien can take the shape of a human). NOTES: Retold in Silver Surfer (Marvel, 1968 series) #3 (December 1968) as a Tales of the Watcher story by Stan Lee and Gene Colan. Another version of this story is told in Marvel: The Lost Generation (Marvel, 2000 series) #11 by Roger Stern and John Byrne. The later story uses a Skrull as the alien and Reed Richards as the scientist who discovers the amnesiac's true identity.'' Again, not complaining about any hype our genre gets, but this is the first I've heard of this reality stretch since I wasn't aware of the "retroactive continuity change" in the 2000 series. This is the "Skrull" from AAF7: Didn't seem to do anything for the hammer price, but I made a note of it anyway. Am I the only one who isn't part of the "many"? -bc Jasonmorris1000000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonmorris1000000 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 30 minutes ago, bc said: So I was watching some auctions on HA.com last night and noticed this marketing blurb in the AAF7 description: "Amazing Adult Fantasy #7 (Marvel, Dec 1961) Condition: VG-. This book is now considered by many to feature the actual first appearance of the Skrulls, thanks to a retroactive continuity change by John Byrne. It pre-dates the release of Fantastic Four #2, the original first appearance of the Skrulls, by one month. (The Skrulls and the Kree/Skrull war have become an aspect of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.)" Not sure who the "many" they refer to is either... I jumped over to the GCD and sure enough found this: "Why Won't They Believe Me?" (first story in the issue) Job # V-391 Synopsis: A man believes that he has discovered an alien invasion, but he is the real alien, and has amnesia. (bc side note: the alien can take the shape of a human). NOTES: Retold in Silver Surfer (Marvel, 1968 series) #3 (December 1968) as a Tales of the Watcher story by Stan Lee and Gene Colan. Another version of this story is told in Marvel: The Lost Generation (Marvel, 2000 series) #11 by Roger Stern and John Byrne. The later story uses a Skrull as the alien and Reed Richards as the scientist who discovers the amnesiac's true identity.'' Again, not complaining about any hype our genre gets, but this is the first I've heard of this reality stretch since I wasn't aware of the "retroactive continuity change" in the 2000 series. This is the "Skrull" from AAF7: Didn't seem to do anything for the hammer price, but I made a note of it anyway. Am I the only one who isn't part of the "many"? -bc I’ve never heard that before but I still think of FF 2 as the first appearance of the Skrulls. I guess I’m not one of the “many” either. bc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonmorris1000000 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I've never read that "Lost Generation" comic by Byrne. He paid homage to PHMs in an FF too. bc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucheee1 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 So is the alien who can change to a human in the TOS 8 (March 1960) story “I am the Changing Man” (T-568) a Skrull as well? bc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bc Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 26 minutes ago, Jasonmorris1000000 said: I’ve never heard that before but I still think of FF 2 as the first appearance of the Skrulls. I guess I’m not one of the “many” either. Darn, I was actually hoping you could shed some light on this as I think several of us haven't read a "new" comics in decades. Might have to pick up a cheap copy on feeBay just to see how much of a continuity change it really is. -bc Jasonmorris1000000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
