Ive lost ALL confidence in CGC - UPDATE on page 221 2 2

[Park]

Finally, some drama around here!

 

Shhhh.

 

This is the super serious thread. Any levity or joking will be met with derisive comments and mean stares.

 

 

[sufunk]

Seeing as how all you boardies have convicted CGC, you should gather your torches and pitchforks and head down to Sarasota.

 

This whole board/lemmings mentality is beyond dumb...I laugh at 95% of the posts in this thread....

 

 

As someone who only sells CGC'd books on his website I'd say you're hardly unbiased.

 

Staus quo much?

 

 

Not the status quo...just a realistic approach to an unrealistic expectation.

 

The fact that people here expect perfection from an imperfect product is laughable.

 

The only thing I agree w/in this entire thread is that CGC has a responsibility to handle the situation correctly...and that's on them and only them. Its not the responsibility of this community to determine what they should or shouldn't do..and casting stones before all the information is available is not only ignorant, but shows true colors by many.

 

Take it for what you want...if a mistake was made, is it the end of the world? No...my power still comes on, my fridge still keeps my food cold and I still have a roof over my head..

 

Its shameful all these first world problems us comic collectors and dealer's have...

 

No one expects perfection. That's not the problem here.

 

Are you honestly gonna tell me that this major SA key, with distinctive faults that a stink was made about and was talked about and shown To everyone in the building with grading credibility wasn't recognized a month later when resubbed?

 

I don't believe that for a second

 

Here's the thing: when faced with multiples of something you don't really have a vested interest in; you forget about it. For example, I work in I.T. and users, unasked, give me their passwords all the time. I have trained myself to forget them, instantly; otherwise, I would literally have hundreds of useless passwords wondering around in my poor abused brain. Unless the book is a true rarity like Double-Action Comics, these graders probably forget the book before they even leave the building for the night.

 

That may be true however I doubt it considering the stink made over this book a month earlier and it's distinctive faults. What makes me REALLY doubt it was myself being flat out told my Avengers 4 was remembered MANY months later and WOULD be remembered if I tried another resub!

[kav]

Even if there was a big hubbub surrounding it? I must have an incredible memory....

[JohnFranklin]

Seeing as how all you boardies have convicted CGC, you should gather your torches and pitchforks and head down to Sarasota.

 

This whole board/lemmings mentality is beyond dumb...I laugh at 95% of the posts in this thread....

 

 

As someone who only sells CGC'd books on his website I'd say you're hardly unbiased.

 

Staus quo much?

 

 

Not the status quo...just a realistic approach to an unrealistic expectation.

 

The fact that people here expect perfection from an imperfect product is laughable.

 

The only thing I agree w/in this entire thread is that CGC has a responsibility to handle the situation correctly...and that's on them and only them. Its not the responsibility of this community to determine what they should or shouldn't do..and casting stones before all the information is available is not only ignorant, but shows true colors by many.

 

Take it for what you want...if a mistake was made, is it the end of the world? No...my power still comes on, my fridge still keeps my food cold and I still have a roof over my head..

 

Its shameful all these first world problems us comic collectors and dealer's have...

 

No one expects perfection. That's not the problem here.

 

Are you honestly gonna tell me that this major SA key, with distinctive faults that a stink was made about and was talked about and shown To everyone in the building with grading credibility wasn't recognized a month later when resubbed?

 

I don't believe that for a second

 

Here's the thing: when faced with multiples of something you don't really have a vested interest in; you forget about it. For example, I work in I.T. and users, unasked, give me their passwords all the time. I have trained myself to forget them, instantly; otherwise, I would literally have hundreds of useless passwords wondering around in my poor abused brain. Unless the book is a true rarity like Double-Action Comics, these graders probably forget the book before they even leave the building for the night.

 

Sorta like an escort when she leaves the building.....

[THE_BEYONDER]

I imagine it takes them longer than one minute. Even on a book with no flaws.

 

By the time you remove the book from the bag, and flip through the pages (gently, I'm assuming) to make sure they're all there and not torn/ripped/pieces missing/drawn on/indented/etc...you've probably hit the minute mark already.

 

You still have to look at the cover, make notes, assess the damage, assign a grade, return it to the bag, etc...

 

It definitely takes longer than a minute.

 

I'd be surprised if they even opened modern books during the grading process.

 

 

[Bomber-Bob]

Yes it does. Basically, you can time the actual day of grading by using the Walkthru = they grade it the day it's received, or the next day. In this case it is suspicious the submitter gamed the system by submitting it on a day the whole crew was out of town. Very relevant.

This book needs to be sent back to CGC for inspection. Otherwise, how can CGC respond to any of this. I've talked to some people, outside of the Boards, and the one common response is why did the submitter flaunt this?

I'm still in the camp that CGC got played.

[rodan57]

I am a little slow in adding my solution to this fiasco.

 

Once I find my tinfoil hat, I'll be back.

 

 

[kav]

Yes it does. Basically, you can time the actual day of grading by using the Walkthru = they grade it the day it's received, or the next day. In this case it is suspicious the submitter gamed the system by submitting it on a day the whole crew was out of town. Very relevant.

This book needs to be sent back to CGC for inspection. Otherwise, how can CGC respond to any of this. I've talked to some people, outside of the Boards, and the one common response is why did the submitter flaunt this?

I'm still in the camp that CGC got played.

New note on label: graded on day when most graders were out of town....

[Unca Ben]

Trimmed or not trimmed?

 

"All the rest of that day, on those wild screaming beaches,

The Fix-It-Up Chappie kept fixing up Sneetches.

Off again! On again! In again! Out again!

Through the machines they raced round and about again,

 

Changing their stars every minute or two. They kept paying money.

They kept running through until the Plain nor the Star-Bellies knew

whether this one was that one or that one was this one. Or which one

was what one or what one was who."

 

-Theodor Seuss Geisel

[Bills Comics]

Yes it does. Basically, you can time the actual day of grading by using the Walkthru = they grade it the day it's received, or the next day. In this case it is suspicious the submitter gamed the system by submitting it on a day the whole crew was out of town. Very relevant.

This book needs to be sent back to CGC for inspection. Otherwise, how can CGC respond to any of this. I've talked to some people, outside of the Boards, and the one common response is why did the submitter flaunt this?

I'm still in the camp that CGC got played.

Saying CGC got played about this , has to be the dumbest thing I have read on these boards ever .

[kav]

Yes it does. Basically, you can time the actual day of grading by using the Walkthru = they grade it the day it's received, or the next day. In this case it is suspicious the submitter gamed the system by submitting it on a day the whole crew was out of town. Very relevant.

This book needs to be sent back to CGC for inspection. Otherwise, how can CGC respond to any of this. I've talked to some people, outside of the Boards, and the one common response is why did the submitter flaunt this?

I'm still in the camp that CGC got played.

Saying CGC got played about this , has to be the dumbest thing I have read on these boards ever .

I guess you haven't been following my posts......

[Spider-Dan]

Yes it does. Basically, you can time the actual day of grading by using the Walkthru = they grade it the day it's received, or the next day. In this case it is suspicious the submitter gamed the system by submitting it on a day the whole crew was out of town. Very relevant.

This book needs to be sent back to CGC for inspection. Otherwise, how can CGC respond to any of this. I've talked to some people, outside of the Boards, and the one common response is why did the submitter flaunt this?

I'm still in the camp that CGC got played.

 

I don't think the buyer did anything but get lucky. Would you send it back Bob? I wouldn't. Buyer isn't flaunting anything.

 

He's actually being very humble about the whole thing. He didn't do anything other than to LMK that I was right when I originally started this thread, in that CGC is NOT as consistent as everyone thinks they are.

[SharpComics.com]

Yes it does. Basically, you can time the actual day of grading by using the Walkthru = they grade it the day it's received, or the next day. In this case it is suspicious the submitter gamed the system by submitting it on a day the whole crew was out of town. Very relevant.

This book needs to be sent back to CGC for inspection. Otherwise, how can CGC respond to any of this. I've talked to some people, outside of the Boards, and the one common response is why did the submitter flaunt this?

I'm still in the camp that CGC got played.

Saying CGC got played about this , has to be the dumbest thing I have read on these boards ever .

 

Then you obviously don't read the boards much...

[MatterEaterLad]

I imagine it takes them longer than one minute. Even on a book with no flaws.

 

By the time you remove the book from the bag, and flip through the pages (gently, I'm assuming) to make sure they're all there and not torn/ripped/pieces missing/drawn on/indented/etc...you've probably hit the minute mark already.

 

You still have to look at the cover, make notes, assess the damage, assign a grade, return it to the bag, etc...

 

It definitely takes longer than a minute.

 

I'd be surprised if they even opened modern books during the grading process.

 

 

There should be a contest for who can get the weirdest thing slabbed inside a modern! Centerfold? Brian Bosworth rookie card? Tongue depressor?

 

 

[mrmyst]

Yes it does. Basically, you can time the actual day of grading by using the Walkthru = they grade it the day it's received, or the next day. In this case it is suspicious the submitter gamed the system by submitting it on a day the whole crew was out of town. Very relevant.

This book needs to be sent back to CGC for inspection. Otherwise, how can CGC respond to any of this. I've talked to some people, outside of the Boards, and the one common response is why did the submitter flaunt this?

I'm still in the camp that CGC got played.

Saying CGC got played about this , has to be the dumbest thing I have read on these boards ever .

I guess you haven't been following my posts......

 

[Hulksdaddy1]

Yes it does. Basically, you can time the actual day of grading by using the Walkthru = they grade it the day it's received, or the next day. In this case it is suspicious the submitter gamed the system by submitting it on a day the whole crew was out of town. Very relevant.

This book needs to be sent back to CGC for inspection. Otherwise, how can CGC respond to any of this. I've talked to some people, outside of the Boards, and the one common response is why did the submitter flaunt this?

I'm still in the camp that CGC got played.

 

I don't think the buyer did anything but get lucky. Would you send it back Bob? I wouldn't. Buyer isn't flaunting anything.

 

He's actually being very humble about the whole thing. He didn't do anything other than to LMK that I was right when I originally started this thread, in that CGC is NOT as consistent as everyone thinks they are.

 

Well, they were consistent when they graded it blue, twice.

 

 

[ChrisInBaltimore]

For those of us busy with work and taking a 5 minute break, has CGC responded to this issue yet?

[MatterEaterLad]

Yes it does. Basically, you can time the actual day of grading by using the Walkthru = they grade it the day it's received, or the next day. In this case it is suspicious the submitter gamed the system by submitting it on a day the whole crew was out of town. Very relevant.

This book needs to be sent back to CGC for inspection. Otherwise, how can CGC respond to any of this. I've talked to some people, outside of the Boards, and the one common response is why did the submitter flaunt this?

I'm still in the camp that CGC got played.

New note on label: graded on day when most graders were out of town....

 

The label would be pink. Like a "While You Were Out" note.

 

 

[Spider-Dan]

Yes it does. Basically, you can time the actual day of grading by using the Walkthru = they grade it the day it's received, or the next day. In this case it is suspicious the submitter gamed the system by submitting it on a day the whole crew was out of town. Very relevant.

This book needs to be sent back to CGC for inspection. Otherwise, how can CGC respond to any of this. I've talked to some people, outside of the Boards, and the one common response is why did the submitter flaunt this?

I'm still in the camp that CGC got played.

 

I don't think the buyer did anything but get lucky. Would you send it back Bob? I wouldn't. Buyer isn't flaunting anything.

 

He's actually being very humble about the whole thing. He didn't do anything other than to LMK that I was right when I originally started this thread, in that CGC is NOT as consistent as everyone thinks they are.

 

Well, they were consistent when they graded it blue, twice.

 

 

Consistent = 3 for 3 (thumbs u

[DrWatson]

Yes it does. Basically, you can time the actual day of grading by using the Walkthru = they grade it the day it's received, or the next day. In this case it is suspicious the submitter gamed the system by submitting it on a day the whole crew was out of town. Very relevant.

This book needs to be sent back to CGC for inspection. Otherwise, how can CGC respond to any of this. I've talked to some people, outside of the Boards, and the one common response is why did the submitter flaunt this?

I'm still in the camp that CGC got played.

If the graders the CGC leave behind when they go to shows can't accurately grade a book on a walkthrough, then perhaps they shouldn't accept a book for walkthrough service until the "knowledgeable" graders get home.

 

Is that what you're saying?