paperheart Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Best case: $225M WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 On 11/26/2023 at 12:06 PM, paperheart said: Best case: $225M WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 The Marvels dropped out of the Top 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drotto Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 On 11/26/2023 at 6:24 PM, Bosco685 said: The Marvels dropped out of the Top 5 Wish also only hit 3rd in it's opening weekend. Apparently that also includes $500,000 from the previous weekend when a limited early release was done. Really bad months, no really bad year for Disney films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
media_junkie Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 On 11/26/2023 at 6:24 PM, Bosco685 said: The Marvels dropped out of the Top 5 5 to 10 years ago if you had told me that a biopic about Napoleon was going to bring in more money on opening weekend than the latest Disney animated "Thanksgiving" movie I would have laughed, but here we are. Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 On 11/26/2023 at 6:33 PM, drotto said: Wish also only hit 3rd in it's opening weekend. Apparently that also includes $500,000 from the previous weekend when a limited early release was done. Really bad months, no really bad year for Disney films. On 11/27/2023 at 6:36 AM, media_junkie said: 5 to 10 years ago if you had told me that a biopic about Napoleon was going to bring in more money on opening weekend than the latest Disney animated "Thanksgiving" movie I would have laughed, but here we are. Not to worry. When Disney releases The Marvels on Disney Plus, it will announce within the week it brought in millions of new subscribers to the service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drotto Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 On 11/27/2023 at 6:41 AM, Bosco685 said: Not to worry. When Disney releases The Marvels on Disney Plus, it will announce within the week it brought in millions of new subscribers to the service. Are those the same 4 million subs they got only because of the $1.99 special monthly subscription the last few weeks. The same quarter where the subscriptions went up, but the revenue per subscriber went down? Oh, yeah also forgot the same service that never gives out actual numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 On 11/27/2023 at 1:36 PM, drotto said: Are those the same 4 million subs they got only because of the $1.99 special monthly subscription the last few weeks. The same quarter where the subscriptions went up, but the revenue per subscriber went down? Oh, yeah also forgot the same service that never gives out actual numbers. I do notice the box office reporters that are usually super-high on MCU films are not saying much about The Marvels (Gitesh Pandya, Luiz Fernando). I wonder if that also comes down to not being perceived as rubbing salt in the wound for Disney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 Quote “Wish” misfired in its opening weekend, extending Disney‘s bleak box office fortunes. The animated musical fable, about the Wishing Star that so many Disney characters have wished upon over the studio’s century-long history, failed to become the de facto choice for families around Thanksgiving. “Wish” opened in third place with a dull $31.7 million over the five-day holiday, a far cry from Disney’s past Turkey Day feasts. Perhaps King Magnifico, the movie’s villain (voiced by Chris Pine), is holding hostage the wishes of Disney executives? Instead of recapturing the studio’s magic, “Wish” joins a long list of its underperforming 2023 tentpoles, such as “The Marvels,” “Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny,” “The Haunted Mansion,” and “Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania.” This summer’s “The Little Mermaid” didn’t completely flounder with $569 million worldwide, but it’s nowhere near the billion-dollar threshold that Disney’s prior live-action adaptations (like “The Lion King” or “Beauty and the Beast”) surpassed with ease. And although “Elemental” finished with $495 million globally, much stronger than its disappointing opening weekend would have suggested, Pixar hasn’t restored its former glory after audiences were trained to watch on Disney+. (Disney is hoping that “Wish” has similar staying power during the busy holiday season.) Quote Disney’s only unmitigated success in 2023 has been “Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3,” which opened in May and generated a healthy $845 million globally. And even then, analysts expected the epic conclusion to James Gunn’s trilogy about intergalactic misfits to get closer to $1 billion, or at least end the series on a high. (2017’s “Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2” remains the highest-grossing entry with $863 million.) Without a runaway blockbuster in the bunch, it’s the first time since 2014 (except for the pandemic-stricken years of 2020 and 2021) that Disney hasn’t launched a billion-dollar release. Quote Case in point: “Avatar: The Way of Water,” which Disney released at the end of 2022, is the seventh-highest grossing domestic release of this year with $283 million, surpassing the majority of the studio’s would-be blockbusters: “Ant-Man 3” ($214 million), “Indiana Jones 5” ($174 million), “Elemental” ($154 million), “The Marvels” ($76 million so far) and “Haunted Mansion” ($67 million), among them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 On 11/26/2023 at 3:24 PM, Bosco685 said: The Marvels dropped out of the Top 5 they flat out missed The Marvels which did a still terrible $14.3M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 wouldn't Wish this on anyone other than DIS grendelbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drotto Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/27/2023 at 10:57 PM, paperheart said: wouldn't Wish this on anyone other than DIS Disney appears to be floundering, and certain branches of the media are desperately trying to find reasons, but are failing talk about, or unwilling to admit the real reasons. They are not creating interesting, original, well crafted stories, and have lost sight of who their audience historically is. paperheart, PopKulture, Azkaban and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sneeze Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 The 20th Century Fox purchase was an Iger move, was it not? I couldn’t believe the price at the time and still can’t. Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 9:14 AM, Mr Sneeze said: The 20th Century Fox purchase was an Iger move, was it not? I couldn’t believe the price at the time and still can’t. It was. And he made it clear it was tied to Disney+ to fill the pipelines. Still writing off those expenses. Mr Sneeze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sneeze Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 9:40 AM, Bosco685 said: It was. And he made it clear it was tied to Disney+ to fill the pipelines. Still writing off those expenses. It amazes me that he made it back as CEO given the crippling legacy of that debt. Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 Mr Sneeze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/27/2023 at 8:57 PM, paperheart said: wouldn't Wish this on anyone other than DIS Azkaban 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drotto Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 9:40 AM, Bosco685 said: It was. And he made it clear it was tied to Disney+ to fill the pipelines. Still writing off those expenses. It was based on the pipedream that streaming was an endless source of easy cash as long as you had enough content to keep people engaged. As we have now seen streaming is a money pit, not a revenue driver. The Fox deal could turn out to be the thing that actually sinks Disney. I do not think Disney will ever go away, but it has gone from from a giant, to a possible takeover candidate because of that deal. Plus, what has Disney actually done with those IP's? Are they ignoring properties that could actually get them out of this current hole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
media_junkie Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 9:53 AM, drotto said: It was based on the pipedream that streaming was an endless source of easy cash as long as you had enough content to keep people engaged. As we have now seen streaming is a money pit, not a revenue driver. The Fox deal could turn out to be the thing that actually sinks Disney. I do not think Disney will ever go away, but it has gone from from a giant, to a possible takeover candidate because of that deal. Plus, what has Disney actually done with those IP's? Are they ignoring properties that could actually get them out of this current hole? Well from what I saw, they didn't really do well by Dr. Who. They had him called out for "misgendering" pronouns on an alien. Disney sucks. Azkaban and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 "The sequel will easily make a billion worldwide!" Should have asked in what currency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
