Silver age comics that are heating up 26 26

[Legion of Goom]

On 7/8/2021 at 1:39 PM, SuperBird said:

TBH Avengers 1 still seems undervalued to me, but maybe I'm crazy. 

I think Avengers 1 and BB28 are still undervalued, so if you're crazy, you're in OK to slightly questionable company 

[Roger66]

"Under-valued" is a highly over-used if not abused word just like when I read someone write in a sale's thread "could use a press."   In short everyone is panning for gold in the same river these days (no pun intended).  There are no secrets or mysteries to this market.  If it is a first appearance then trust me someone is focusing on it as we communicate.  The problem remains that most collectors don't want to jump on a book if they see no one else making a move on it.  The irony of individual collectors calling out a book publicly as under-valued is they aren't sure themselves if it is truly priced right because otherwise if they believed there own hype - they would buy multiple copies of it first before calling attention to it.  Finally no matter what happens to this market by the end of this year or next or in 10 years - I will always hold firm that the greatest keys to own were always the greatest S.A. keys to own from day #1 - i.e. TOS39, AF15, HULK1, SHOWCASE4, BB28 etc etc..  and these IMO very high prices on 1st appearances of SO-SO characters, who until not so long ago were tertiary heroes is where the shaky money lies.  My lousy 2 cents.  

[Aman619]

But these tertiary first appearances are affordable. And many were published when the buyers were kids...

[shiverbones]

On 7/8/2021 at 1:39 PM, Bird said:

Come'on Clea!

I have 5 or 6 st126 I am sitting on but no MCU Clea in sight!

I thought clea came up on a toy style guide for multiverse

[Bird]

4 minutes ago, shiverbones said:

I thought clea came up on a toy style guide for multiverse

if we are thinking of the same thing, there was a character who COULD have been Clea, yes. But the movie has wrapped and no casting info, when we have casting for America Chavez and others who are in it.

[divad]

 Clea! 

[adampasz]

2 hours ago, Roger66 said:

"Under-valued" is a highly over-used if not abused word just like when I read someone write in a sale's thread "could use a press."   In short everyone is panning for gold in the same river these days (no pun intended).  There are no secrets or mysteries to this market.  If it is a first appearance then trust me someone is focusing on it as we communicate.  The problem remains that most collectors don't want to jump on a book if they see no one else making a move on it.  The irony of individual collectors calling out a book publicly as under-valued is they aren't sure themselves if it is truly priced right because otherwise if they believed there own hype - they would buy multiple copies of it first before calling attention to it.  Finally no matter what happens to this market by the end of this year or next or in 10 years - I will always hold firm that the greatest keys to own were always the greatest S.A. keys to own from day #1 - i.e. TOS39, AF15, HULK1, SHOWCASE4, BB28 etc etc..  and these IMO very high prices on 1st appearances of SO-SO characters, who until not so long ago were tertiary heroes is where the shaky money lies.  My lousy 2 cents.  

I'm compiling a list of catch-phrases for upcoming sales threads:
"dormant key"
"over-valued hot potato"
"a press won't help this mess"

[Frederic9494]

On 7/6/2021 at 1:45 AM, kimik said:

Some other books that are finally popping are the FF SS/Galactus arcs from #55-60 and #72-76. I think #55, 57, 72, and 75 have room to grow due to the covers.

Curious about opinions on FF 74, it's only the second Galactus cover (two years after FF 50!)

This is one that should appreciate a bit (I hope!)

 

[Roger66]

4 hours ago, Aman619 said:

But these tertiary first appearances are affordable. And many were published when the buyers were kids...

I am 1/2 century plus old.  I grew up loving tier 1 heroes like Iron-Man, Spider-Man, Thor, Hulk, Wolverine, Justice League, Flash etc.  The Eternals, Iron-Fist, Star Wars comics, She Hulk, that other martial artist dude etc - were comics I read, enjoyed and collected too but their huge increase in their valuations has much much more to do with the inaccessibility due to the unaffordability of the 1st tier characters 1st appearances.  Please don't tell me all of a sudden a tertiary character's 1st appearance warrants a 400% increase in price in only the span of 6 to 8 months.  That has more to do with hype, speculation and hot air then anything real or tangible.  Because something is affordable doesn't make it a wise investment IMO.  This hobby has a huge mob mentality and like moths drawn to the brightest flame - collectors in general are drawn in droves almost subconsciously so without really thinking in terms of is this really worth this price and maybe I should pass on it?  The loss of reason is what I call it.   My lousy 2 cents.   

[PeterPark]

4 hours ago, Roger66 said:

"Under-valued" is a highly over-used if not abused word just like when I read someone write in a sale's thread "could use a press."   In short everyone is panning for gold in the same river these days (no pun intended).  There are no secrets or mysteries to this market.  If it is a first appearance then trust me someone is focusing on it as we communicate.  The problem remains that most collectors don't want to jump on a book if they see no one else making a move on it.  The irony of individual collectors calling out a book publicly as under-valued is they aren't sure themselves if it is truly priced right because otherwise if they believed there own hype - they would buy multiple copies of it first before calling attention to it.  Finally no matter what happens to this market by the end of this year or next or in 10 years - I will always hold firm that the greatest keys to own were always the greatest S.A. keys to own from day #1 - i.e. TOS39, AF15, HULK1, SHOWCASE4, BB28 etc etc..  and these IMO very high prices on 1st appearances of SO-SO characters, who until not so long ago were tertiary heroes is where the shaky money lies.  My lousy 2 cents.  

Calling a book undervalued can be very informative at times. For years, people said this about Marvel Special Edition 15. Even they would not have seen the price increase that comes with his movie coming. I can think of many books that are undervalued. In saying that, I mean that they share the characteristics that propel other books but, for whatever reason, have not been the book of the moment. Strange Tales 135 is undervalued. So is Nick Fury, Agent of Shield 1. So is Wolverine 10. I can go on, but the point people are likely making when saying that is, buy this book at the price it is being offered for, and the future looks bright. I've sold many books I knew were going up, but that doesn't mean it didn't make sense for me to sell them. Characters come into their own more now than ever. Look at Guardians of the Galaxy. It wasn't even the original incarnation that blew up but a reboot of a reboot. That doesn't have to matter, but they're not tertiary anymore. Of course, a lot of those statements prove not to work out so dramatically, and basically everything went up since the start of the pandemic. It might be true to say that comics in general were undervalued 16 months ago, but I don't know it is so informative. At the same time, a lot of people buy on speculation, for better or worse, and the idea that some issue has been sitting around overlooked might make it worth the hedge of it exploding in value. I do try to look for books I think are undervalued and find nice copies for cheap, now. I paid $65 for a raw Strange Tales 169 because I thought it was undervalued. It came back a 9.2, I sold it, and it was still undervalued then. Now, I'm not so sure it is anymore.

As for pressing, I, myself, will often state when a book would improve with a press. A lot of people get books pressed and get improved grades. A book in Fine condition that could improve with a press is better than one that is tight and flat. I do not press books myself, so while I might realize it would help, I often sell them unpressed. What the buyer does is up to them, but there is value in the possibility. If you don't press books, the statement doesn't matter to you anyway. If you are someone who looks to buy to improve, grade and flip, it might make a lot of sense to seek out books that will improve with a press. 

[divad]

1 hour ago, Roger66 said:

My lousy 2 cents.  

2 cents more than 10 cents 

[divad]

1 hour ago, PeterPark said:

As for pressing, I, myself, will often state when a book would improve with a press. A lot of people get books pressed and get improved grades. A book in Fine condition that could improve with a press is better than one that is tight and flat. I do not press books myself, so while I might realize it would help, I often sell them unpressed. What the buyer does is up to them, but there is value in the possibility. If you don't press books, the statement doesn't matter to you anyway. If you are someone who looks to buy to improve, grade and flip, it might make a lot of sense to seek out books that will improve with a press. 

I disagree. I don't press books, nor do I advertise them as having pressing potential. I don't believe in the practice or the purpose. Plain. And. Simple. Nor do I demonize those who do - to each his own. 

Edited July 11, 2021 by divad

[PeterPark]

9 minutes ago, divad said:

I disagree. I don't press books, nor do I advertise them as having pressing potential. I don't believe in the practice or the purpose. Plain. And. Simple. Nor do I demonize those who do - to each his own. 

I bought a collection with improperly stored books. Many of them do not have color-breaking creases but do have waviness, kind of like stacking curls, that could improve with a press. If people who press are looking for them, I try to make it easy. I'd press them myself if I did such things.

[jimjum12]

12 minutes ago, divad said:

1 hour ago, PeterPark said:

As for pressing, I, myself, will often state when a book would improve with a press. A lot of people get books pressed and get improved grades. A book in Fine condition that could improve with a press is better than one that is tight and flat. I do not press books myself, so while I might realize it would help, I often sell them unpressed. What the buyer does is up to them, but there is value in the possibility. If you don't press books, the statement doesn't matter to you anyway. If you are someone who looks to buy to improve, grade and flip, it might make a lot of sense to seek out books that will improve with a press. 

I disagree. I don't press books, nor do I advertise them as having pressing potential. I don't believe in the practice or the purpose. Plain. And. Simple. Nor do I demonize those who do - to each his own. 

I often mention it... but only if it's true. I never recommend pressing a book that won't benefit, just to sell a book. Not all books will benefit. GOD BLESS....

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

Edited July 11, 2021 by jimjum12

[William-James88]

I have been waiting a decade to say this but....

Daredevil 3 is actually hot now!!!!!!!!

Yeah, can't believe it either, that book always looked like a dud, selling for less than guide. And that's even after The Owl actually appeared in the Netflix show. But lo and behold, it just sold for more than double guide on HA.

 

 

 

[William-James88]

LOL, wut?! 

[Readcomix]

On 7/8/2021 at 1:44 PM, HighVoltage said:

You would think that Avengers #1 would have risen higher, considering it was the backbone of driving the MCU.
I'm guessing the tamp-down factor is: No big first appearances, and a June 1963 release date.
If Cap had debuted in #1 - then we'd have some crazy-town prices.

You’re probably right as you often hear that said about the book — “no big first appearances” — but I for the life of me cannot see why this idea (no new characters introduced as a ceiling factor on a book’s importance) has taken hold as having any significance at all.

What was introduced in Avengers #1 was the concept of the Avengers, not just the backbone of the MCU but in many ways the unifying thread book for the continuity of the comics themselves. The Avengers was sort of the clubhouse title for years, where most anyone might show up/pass through. And they are the mentioned idea in so many books — the idea of the Avengers became a writer’s device. When there’s a big, honking problem in the pages of a Marvel comic, some character always says, “Call the Avengers.” 

I would argue that the concept of the Avengers is far more important to the Marvel Universe than most individual characters introduced over the years, including many I enjoy. So I think the concept of the Avengers is far more important, more key, than many, many characters’ first appearances. (And sure I think one could apply this thinking to B&B 28 or All Star #3 as well.)

[bpc3qh]

5 hours ago, Readcomix said:

(And sure I think one could apply this thinking to B&B 28 or All Star #3 as well.)

I'll take this opportunity to, once again, shout the BB28 is undervalued.

[southern cross]

I agree about Avengers 1.

Marvels answer to the JLA from DC.

Also the first time Hulk joins a team, well sort of 👍

[alexgross.com]

17 hours ago, William-James88 said:

LOL, wut?! 

what have you been under a rock or something for six months? i just sold a ff5 5.0 for 16k last month. this book's been on fire for awhile now. 

as for gpa, its still, sadly, far better than gocollect who take forever adding sales data. i just track books i am interested in, or which i own, on CL and take screen shots of them when they end. it's imperfect but it helps. but i agree that gpa is far from complete without that data.