BATMAN VS SUPERMAN MOVIE A DOG 0

[woowoo]

I haven't seen the film yet, but I'm betting I will like it. I liked MOS although there were some really awkward moments in it. For all the naysayers, I say this:

 

Pop in "Batman and Robin". Then go see BvS. If anyone can say with a straight face the former movie was good, I have a butterfly net waiting for your occupancy. I haven't seen a Batman movie yet I have liked. It's one of those things where I know what I want to see, but haven't seen it yet. I'm hoping BvS will be a close approximation.

 

DC productions aren't getting much of my money these days. My time is too valuable to waste on tasteless/offensive films. I respect that you liked MoS, but we obviously have different standards for entertainment.

 

Tell the truth your just not a DC guy.

 

George Reeves in the first 26 episodes of the original television series caught the essence of Superman for me. Sophisticated by today's standards? ...Obviously not, but the charm, heroism and even danger of super powered being operating secretly in human society was done quite well.

 

I'd love to see Batman done right, but it's like the Goldilocks bears on steroids. Either the character is done as pure camp like the 60's abomination or the 80's & 90's interpretations where Batman was overshadowed by star actor villains or Joel Shumaker's riske' interpretation of Batman and Robin that looked like a promo film for LAMBA. And finally, whe it looked like Batman couldn't be subject to worse treatment we got the darkest of the dark knight interpretations. A series that ended in Heath Ledger's spiral into darkness and the Joker idolized by a crazed cinema shooter lifting the dark horror to real world stature in an obscene reflection of just how dark our society has finally become. Maybe Goldilocks with CSI investigating her remains in the bear's cabin. Too hot, too cold, too nasty, too tasteless, but never just right.

 

Yeah, I want my heroes to be heroic. I have no problem with scriptwriters developing characters that are conflicted and going through periods of darkness, but that only works if they come out on the other side better adjusted from the experience. Heck, adding the dimensionality of life's complexities enriches characters. Heroes need not be emotionless card-board cut outs, but the darkness requires balance. Establishing conflicted characters in a totally dystopian world isn't entertainment. Alas, we may be making our world a little more dystopian every day, but I'd like to think that there's room for optimism and hope. If our movies can't offer a hint of humanity, then I think our entertainment industry is in a truly sad state.

 

Well, you asked. So, as in the Buckeroo Banzai universe, no matter where you go, there you are.

 

I am reading my Red Raven 1 now so i will read your loooooooooong post when i am done.

[Cat-Man_America]

I haven't seen the film yet, but I'm betting I will like it. I liked MOS although there were some really awkward moments in it. For all the naysayers, I say this:

 

Pop in "Batman and Robin". Then go see BvS. If anyone can say with a straight face the former movie was good, I have a butterfly net waiting for your occupancy. I haven't seen a Batman movie yet I have liked. It's one of those things where I know what I want to see, but haven't seen it yet. I'm hoping BvS will be a close approximation.

 

DC productions aren't getting much of my money these days. My time is too valuable to waste on tasteless/offensive films. I respect that you liked MoS, but we obviously have different standards for entertainment.

 

Tell the truth your just not a DC guy.

 

George Reeves in the first 26 episodes of the original television series caught the essence of Superman for me. Sophisticated by today's standards? ...Obviously not, but the charm, heroism and even danger of super powered being operating secretly in human society was done quite well.

 

I'd love to see Batman done right, but it's like the Goldilocks bears on steroids. Either the character is done as pure camp like the 60's abomination or the 80's & 90's interpretations where Batman was overshadowed by star actor villains or Joel Shumaker's riske' interpretation of Batman and Robin that looked like a promo film for LAMBA. And finally, whe it looked like Batman couldn't be subject to worse treatment we got the darkest of the dark knight interpretations. A series that ended in Heath Ledger's spiral into darkness and the Joker idolized by a crazed cinema shooter lifting the dark horror to real world stature in an obscene reflection of just how dark our society has finally become. Maybe Goldilocks with CSI investigating her remains in the bear's cabin. Too hot, too cold, too nasty, too tasteless, but never just right.

 

Yeah, I want my heroes to be heroic. I have no problem with scriptwriters developing characters that are conflicted and going through periods of darkness, but that only works if they come out on the other side better adjusted from the experience. Heck, adding the dimensionality of life's complexities enriches characters. Heroes need not be emotionless card-board cut outs, but the darkness requires balance. Establishing conflicted characters in a totally dystopian world isn't entertainment. Alas, we may be making our world a little more dystopian every day, but I'd like to think that there's room for optimism and hope. If our movies can't offer a hint of humanity, then I think our entertainment industry is in a truly sad state.

 

Well, you asked. So, as in the Buckeroo Banzai universe, no matter where you go, there you are.

 

I am reading my Red Raven 1 now so i will read your loooooooooong post when i am done.

 

Red Raven #1 is the epitome of good taste.

[woowoo]

Its brittle and smells. I used that paper from Bill S 30 years ago he said it would be supple but no.I do love key books of all

[drotto]

Interesting article about the business side, since we have been talking about it some here.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2016/04/06/was-the-400-million-warner-bros-paid-for-batman-v-superman-a-good-investment/#3f7b11af7d67

[Randall Ries]

As I say, I haven't seen the movie yet so I can't say whether I will like it or not. My "Standards For Entertainment" haven't been challenged yet. I CAN say with some authority that the DC movies I have seen up to this point have pretty much sucked.

The Watchmen and MOS are really the only ones I infrequently return to. MOS being entertaining with good battle scenes and Watchmen if I want to feel depressed and hopeless.

 

I read a pirated copy of the 1st Keaton Batman movie -script a year before it came out and was horrified. I thought, "Well. It'll be a year before the thing is finished in production. SURELY there will be revisions". There were not. There were none. I didn't get two pages into the -script when the "I'm Batman" line was hurled into my eyes like so much lemon juice. While the line has become a running joke and a geek eye roll in fandom, I found it to be trite and ridiculous.

 

When sitting and watching the movie with friends in the theater, I had to be restrained from fleeing when that line, which I had HOPED would be excised from the -script, was blurted out like puke into the punch bowl.

 

So, people immediately had to find something positive to say. Which boiled down to "Yah! Jack Nicholson as the Joker! Awe-Siimmm!" To sort of counteract the choice of Michael Keaton as Batman. That is still a head scratcher to me. As was the choice of Nicholson. The guy who played the young killer of the Waynes would have been a much better choice.

 

Now it seems like some fans consider this movie like a Fassbinder film, which it certainly is not. The Dark Knight Returns set a new standard for The Batman at that time and we got pandering from an entertainment industry that didn't want to alienate the fans from the 1960's tv show which was also an abomination, as were just about every comic book from #47 to about #219, when Adams and O'Neil tried to turn the thing around.

 

(Gosh! We have this terrible tv show and the books are reflecting that POS and book sales are plummeting? Why? WHY?)

 

Also, we couldn't frighten the little kiddies back then either, as we has merchandising and concession stand sales to consider as well. Their parents, fans of the tv show, would be their pants if they were shown anything different from their Petula Clark/Beach Boys backgrounds. Can't have the little lawn apes scarred for life by a movie. We'll leave that up to the parents, the school system and a greedy, avarist Madison Avenue.

 

I LIKED MOS, but I didn't love it. The notion of "comic books are for kids and " is still very much alive in the entertainment industry because there are a lot of stuffed suits that don't get it making decisions. When they do try to relate, it's usually over something that has been relegated to the passe bin years ago. The issue of an "R" rated BvS movie not being initially released bears this out. Still pandering in this age of sophistication and enlightenment. Nah. We'll release the "R" rated version on BluRay and everyone can watch it hiding under their beds or with the lights dimmed after the kiddies have gone to bed like so much porn.

 

As I say, I haven't seen the new movie yet, but I hope I like it. I've been waiting for almost 30 years for DC to get it right. That's a long time.

[Mmehdy]

As I say, I haven't seen the movie yet so I can't say whether I will like it or not. My "Standards For Entertainment" haven't been challenged yet. I CAN say with some authority that the DC movies I have seen up to this point have pretty much sucked.

The Watchmen and MOS are really the only ones I infrequently return to. MOS being entertaining with good battle scenes and Watchmen if I want to feel depressed and hopeless.

 

I read a pirated copy of the 1st Keaton Batman movie -script a year before it came out and was horrified. I thought, "Well. It'll be a year before the thing is finished in production. SURELY there will be revisions". There were not. There were none. I didn't get two pages into the -script when the "I'm Batman" line was hurled into my eyes like so much lemon juice. While the line has become a running joke and a geek eye roll in fandom, I found it to be trite and ridiculous.

 

When sitting and watching the movie with friends in the theater, I had to be restrained from fleeing when that line, which I had HOPED would be excised from the -script, was blurted out like puke into the punch bowl.

 

So, people immediately had to find something positive to say. Which boiled down to "Yah! Jack Nicholson as the Joker! Awe-Siimmm!" To sort of counteract the choice of Michael Keaton as Batman. That is still a head scratcher to me. As was the choice of Nicholson. The guy who played the young killer of the Waynes would have been a much better choice.

 

Now it seems like some fans consider this movie like a Fassbinder film, which it certainly is not. The Dark Knight Returns set a new standard for The Batman at that time and we got pandering from an entertainment industry that didn't want to alienate the fans from the 1960's tv show which was also an abomination, as were just about every comic book from #47 to about #219, when Adams and O'Neil tried to turn the thing around.

 

(Gosh! We have this terrible tv show and the books are reflecting that POS and book sales are plummeting? Why? WHY?)

 

Also, we couldn't frighten the little kiddies back then either, as we has merchandising and concession stand sales to consider as well. Their parents, fans of the tv show, would be their pants if they were shown anything different from their Petula Clark/Beach Boys backgrounds. Can't have the little lawn apes scarred for life by a movie. We'll leave that up to the parents, the school system and a greedy, avarist Madison Avenue.

 

I LIKED MOS, but I didn't love it. The notion of "comic books are for kids and " is still very much alive in the entertainment industry because there are a lot of stuffed suits that don't get it making decisions. When they do try to relate, it's usually over something that has been relegated to the passe bin years ago. The issue of an "R" rated BvS movie not being initially released bears this out. Still pandering in this age of sophistication and enlightenment. Nah. We'll release the "R" rated version on BluRay and everyone can watch it hiding under their beds or with the lights dimmed after the kiddies have gone to bed like so much porn.

 

As I say, I haven't seen the new movie yet, but I hope I like it. I've been waiting for almost 30 years for DC to get it right. That's a long time.

 

Great post...I don't know if you have seen watchmen's directors cut but it is clearly better....but go in with low expectations and don't be surprised if you come out with even a lower opinion ....

Edited April 6, 2016 by Mmehdy

[Randall Ries]

I waited and I bought the Watchmen Directors Cut when it came out. I like it a great deal. It's depressing, though. I felt a sense of hope with the mini series that I didn't with the movie, however. Which is ok. I don't need rainbows shining from my bowels at the end of movies or books. Sometimes, things are bleak. Societal change brings darkness with it naturally, not sunny faced hope and that looking-stalwart-into-the-future-with-jutting-chin-and-shoulders-squared poise. The process of change sucks.

 

I never saw redemption in any Stephen King novel or movie either. If you find yourself in either of those, color yourself screwed!

 

Also, as an aside, they are preparing to unleash "Preacher" on AMC. Already, there are rumblings about the violence and subject matter in the mainstream. But, it's a comic book that looks like it may get the treatment it deserves. The squeamish can change the channel, I guess.

Edited April 6, 2016 by Randall Ries

[Straw-Man]

I waited and I bought the Watchmen Directors Cut when it came out. I like it a great deal. It's depressing, though. I felt a sense of hope with the mini series that I didn't with the movie, however. Which is ok. I don't need rainbows shining from my bowels at the end of movies or books. Sometimes, things are bleak. Societal change brings darkness with it naturally, not sunny faced hope and that looking-stalwart-into-the-future-with-jutting-chin-and-shoulders-squared poise. The process of change sucks.

 

I never saw redemption in any Stephen King novel or movie either. If you find yourself in either of those, color yourself screwed!

 

Also, as an aside, they are preparing to unleash "Preacher" on AMC. Already, there are rumblings about the violence and subject matter in the mainstream. But, it's a comic book that looks like it may get the treatment it deserves. The squeamish can change the channel, I guess.

 

you may need to rewatch shawshank.

[gino2paulus2]

I waited and I bought the Watchmen Directors Cut when it came out. I like it a great deal. It's depressing, though. I felt a sense of hope with the mini series that I didn't with the movie, however. Which is ok. I don't need rainbows shining from my bowels at the end of movies or books. Sometimes, things are bleak. Societal change brings darkness with it naturally, not sunny faced hope and that looking-stalwart-into-the-future-with-jutting-chin-and-shoulders-squared poise. The process of change sucks.

 

I never saw redemption in any Stephen King novel or movie either. If you find yourself in either of those, color yourself screwed!

 

Also, as an aside, they are preparing to unleash "Preacher" on AMC. Already, there are rumblings about the violence and subject matter in the mainstream. But, it's a comic book that looks like it may get the treatment it deserves. The squeamish can change the channel, I guess.

 

you may need to rewatch shawshank.

 

?...Now that is a GREAT film

[Randall Ries]

Yeah. Andy Dufresne was "redeemed". Living in Mexico as a fugitive. The movie started out good, then got smarmy, then really, really convenient.

[cousin itt]

It's an interesting question who/what is redeemed in shawshank. Since Andy never really committed a real crime (IIRC, I think the worst thing he actually did was just be a workaholic and neglect his wife), it can't be him. Maybe it's Red, but he seems pretty defiant at the end, and almost sounds like he blames that "stupid kid" for the crime, and not himself. Maybe it's the prison itself which is redeemed, since the corrupt officials are exposed and removed and (presumably) replaced by non-corrupt ones.

[Randall Ries]

If there was any redemption at all in "The Shawshank Redemption", it belonged to Brooksy's bird Jake. He was born into captivity, saw some stuff that would have broken another blackbird and flew away smelling like a rose. If that is considered redemption, then I stand corrected. One Stephen King "Novelette" has a little whiff of redemption. I'm sure King didn't mean it.

[Cat-Man_America]

Yeah. Andy Dufresne was "redeemed". Living in Mexico as a fugitive. The movie started out good, then got smarmy, then really, really convenient.

 

Film production usually involves more than one vision. The bottom line is a complicated business model involving profit margins from box office revenues, toy promotion, franchises, sequels and spin-offs with everyone involved in the production jockeying for credit when a film succeeds or deniability when it doesn't perform up to expectations.

 

Sincere critics and passionate Superman fans have described Zack Snyder's direction as lacking coherence. I won't go so far as to describe Zack as a hack, but by the same token I don't think he's a comics guy. Snyder apparently doesn't care about the legacy of comics, the publishers or historic relevance of superheroes. That makes him the wrong guy to handle Superman and Batman or any other historic characters comic fans feel passionate about.

 

Zack's Watchman film was a mixed bag. As a broad contemporary analysis of the comic book hero mythos it worked well on a philosophical level which was entirely appropriate given the subject matter. But since the critical success of Watchman, Zack's vision of comic book heroism has become boringly pedestrian, darkly dystopian and given his dismissive treatment of women, uncomfortably misogynistic. He's not a good match to be the torch bearer for DC's legacy.

 

One can fault Marvel for being somewhat predictable in constructing a universe where each major character and storyline intersects on some level, but that's what fans love about their comic mythology. Consistency of vision is a key part of the Marvel universe that allows it to expand. Heck, fans can wink and smile every time Stan Lee shows up in a hammy-cameo appearance; we even look for it and rejoice. That's because the Marvel universe allows space for a sense of humor and respect for legacy.

 

As a Make Mine Marvel guy, maybe my perspective is off base here, but I think it's entirely fair for Superman/Batman fans to ask why DC's franchise holders can't find room in their mythology for respecting the origins and traditions of their heroes. My

[Transplant]

I haven't seen the film yet, but I'm betting I will like it. I liked MOS although there were some really awkward moments in it. For all the naysayers, I say this:

 

Pop in "Batman and Robin". Then go see BvS. If anyone can say with a straight face the former movie was good, I have a butterfly net waiting for your occupancy. I haven't seen a Batman movie yet I have liked. It's one of those things where I know what I want to see, but haven't seen it yet. I'm hoping BvS will be a close approximation.

 

DC productions aren't getting much of my money these days. My time is too valuable to waste on tasteless/offensive films. I respect that you liked MoS, but we obviously have different standards for entertainment.

 

Tell the truth your just not a DC guy.

 

George Reeves in the first 26 episodes of the original television series caught the essence of Superman for me. Sophisticated by today's standards? ...Obviously not, but the charm, heroism and even danger of super powered being operating secretly in human society was done quite well.

 

I'd love to see Batman done right, but it's like the Goldilocks bears on steroids. Either the character is done as pure camp like the 60's abomination or the 80's & 90's interpretations where Batman was overshadowed by star actor villains or Joel Shumaker's riske' interpretation of Batman and Robin that looked like a promo film for LAMBA. And finally, when it looked like Batman couldn't be subject to worse treatment we got the darkest of the dark knight interpretations. A series that ended in Heath Ledger's spiral into darkness and the Joker idolized by a crazed cinema shooter lifting the dark horror to real world stature in an obscene reflection of just how dark our society has finally become. Maybe Goldilocks with CSI investigating her remains in the bear's cabin. Too hot, too cold, too nasty, too tasteless, but never just right.

 

Yeah, I want my heroes to be heroic. I have no problem with scriptwriters developing characters that are conflicted and going through periods of darkness, but that only works if they come out on the other side better adjusted from the experience. Heck, adding the dimensionality of life's complexities enriches characters. Heroes need not be emotionless card-board cut outs, but the darkness requires balance. Establishing conflicted characters in a totally dystopian world isn't entertainment. Alas, we may be making our world a little more dystopian every day, but I'd like to think that there's room for optimism and hope. If our movies can't offer a hint of humanity, then I think our entertainment industry is in a truly sad state.

 

Well, you asked. So, as in the Buckeroo Banzai universe, no matter where you go, there you are.

 

Plenty of Marvel-only pearl clutchers in this thread.

[Mmehdy]

Bad news: this dog of movie has knocked films off WB slate. According to the Hollywood reporter.com The B v S stall has caused a rethinking of adding a new producter for JSA and reduced the number of DC related films..interesting article...other studios say WB blew it...it was a home run that turned into a base hit.....WB should pull the movie asap and release the extra 30 min and the R rated original version in my opinion.

Edited April 7, 2016 by Mmehdy

[Randall Ries]

Yeah. Andy Dufresne was "redeemed". Living in Mexico as a fugitive. The movie started out good, then got smarmy, then really, really convenient.

 

Film production usually involves more than one vision. The bottom line is a complicated business model involving profit margins from box office revenues, toy promotion, franchises, sequels and spin-offs with everyone involved in the production jockeying for credit when a film succeeds or deniability when it doesn't perform up to expectations.

 

Sincere critics and passionate Superman fans have described Zack Snyder's direction as lacking coherence. I won't go so far as to describe Zack as a hack, but by the same token I don't think he's a comics guy. Snyder apparently doesn't care about the legacy of comics, the publishers or historic relevance of superheroes. That makes him the wrong guy to handle Superman and Batman or any other historic characters comic fans feel passionate about.

 

Zack's Watchman film was a mixed bag. As a broad contemporary analysis of the comic book hero mythos it worked well on a philosophical level which was entirely appropriate given the subject matter. But since the critical success of Watchman, Zack's vision of comic book heroism has become boringly pedestrian, darkly dystopian and given his dismissive treatment of women, uncomfortably misogynistic. He's not a good match to be the torch bearer for DC's legacy.

 

One can fault Marvel for being somewhat predictable in constructing a universe where each major character and storyline intersects on some level, but that's what fans love about their comic mythology. Consistency of vision is a key part of the Marvel universe that allows it to expand. Heck, fans can wink and smile every time Stan Lee shows up in a hammy-cameo appearance; we even look for it and rejoice. That's because the Marvel universe allows space for a sense of humor and respect for legacy.

 

As a Make Mine Marvel guy, maybe my perspective is off base here, but I think it's entirely fair for Superman/Batman fans to ask why DC's franchise holders can't find room in their mythology for respecting the origins and traditions of their heroes. My

 

What? Comic books treating women like tokens and blatant objectification? !

 

DC is treading water at best. They are reinventing themselves AGAIN and yes, they seem to have no respect for their roots. How many Crisis can you have before you admit you have no idea what you are doing anymore? DC's legacy is going to be hammered in stone as waffling if they don't decide on a direction. It smacks of fan disrespect as well as the character mythology. At least some of it might be because Marvel is smoking them right now. I'm not an expert in this by any means because I collect books mainly from the early mid seventies, when I was a boy/teenager. Enamored with Neal Adams at the time. It's hard to care when Batman today will be different than Batman tomorrow or Batman yesterday.

 

Part of the problem for me at least is that I can read a fine mini series like the Watchmen, enjoy it thoroughly, watch a movie a LONG time in the making and getting that "Meh" feeling afterward. I have always wondered how a movie would fare if they did it frame for frame from a popular book like Batman: The Dark Knight Returns. A movie for the fans. The thing won awards, right? Critical acclaim? Screw the directors "vision". Just do the damned movie the way the story was told in the books and let the neophytes figure it out for themselves as they go. They might learn something.

 

Of course there is always that phenomenon where the book is always better than the movie. I can only hope I can at least go" Not Bad" after seeing BvS.

 

I have always favored DC over Marvel, albeit by a nose. I dug them both as a kid but loved the golden age Batman & Superman stories the best. Loved Bronze age Capt America and Spiderman. Never got into X-Men. Loved the Tales of Suspense title featuring CA and Iron Man. Then the Adams/O'Neil books followed by my favorite Adams runner up Jim Aparo before his art got all weird with Bob Haney in Brave and the Bold. So good. None of the Marvel or DC movies can touch any of the books from back then.

Edited April 7, 2016 by Randall Ries

[mar-vell]

Yeah. Andy Dufresne was "redeemed". Living in Mexico as a fugitive. The movie started out good, then got smarmy, then really, really convenient.

 

I thought his redemption was when he raised his hands to the sky as a free man. Kind of like a God set him free kind of moment. He was sent to his own personal hell and triumphed over it and the architects of his torture were brought down in the process.

[gino2paulus2]

Yeah. Andy Dufresne was "redeemed". Living in Mexico as a fugitive. The movie started out good, then got smarmy, then really, really convenient.

 

I thought his redemption was when he raised his hands to the sky as a free man. Kind of like a God set him free kind of moment. He was sent to his own personal hell and triumphed over it and the architects of his torture were brought down in the process.

 

Yes...exactly. Redemption by definition can be just that. Regaining something that had been stripped from him. His freedom. Redemption from Shawshank.The argument that there isn't "redemption" in this film is just plain silly.

 

Back to BvS. I haven't seen the film but many here stated it was entertaining for the most part. That's all I'm looking for. I would like to know for everyone that said it is horrid are we judging it as a prequel type deal or as a standalone movie? I didn't read too much of the thread I could smell the negativity in the air and I want to go in with as open a mind as possible. the Mrs. said she heard it was bad though which kind of stinks because she is usually pretty psyched to see these hero movies with me. Oh well, it can't be That bad. One thing I do wish is that they would stop already with all of the different trailers for these films. I know they have to build it up but whatever happened to just one trailer. That's it. If you want to know what happens go see the film. I feel like I already have the entire plot before I even get there. That to me even if the flick is indeed horrendous from a plot standpoint but entertaining will be my biggest beef. Cut it out Hollywood with all your darn trailers. Leave a little to the imagination before I buy my ticket.

[Mmehdy]

Yeah. Andy Dufresne was "redeemed". Living in Mexico as a fugitive. The movie started out good, then got smarmy, then really, really convenient.

 

I thought his redemption was when he raised his hands to the sky as a free man. Kind of like a God set him free kind of moment. He was sent to his own personal hell and triumphed over it and the architects of his torture were brought down in the process.

 

Yes...exactly. Redemption by definition can be just that. Regaining something that had been stripped from him. His freedom. Redemption from Shawshank.The argument that there isn't "redemption" in this film is just plain silly.

 

Back to BvS. I haven't seen the film but many here stated it was entertaining for the most part. That's all I'm looking for. I would like to know for everyone that said it is horrid are we judging it as a prequel type deal or as a standalone movie? I didn't read too much of the thread I could smell the negativity in the air and I want to go in with as open a mind as possible. the Mrs. said she heard it was bad though which kind of stinks because she is usually pretty psyched to see these hero movies with me. Oh well, it can't be That bad. One thing I do wish is that they would stop already with all of the different trailers for these films. I know they have to build it up but whatever happened to just one trailer. That's it. If you want to know what happens go see the film. I feel like I already have the entire plot before I even get there. That to me even if the flick is indeed horrendous from a plot standpoint but entertaining will be my biggest beef. Cut it out Hollywood with all your darn trailers. Leave a little to the imagination before I buy my ticket.

 

Disappointing is understatement , marvel introduced the characters in their own movies first .. Then pop the avengers which I liked one better than 2. This movie for 250. Million dollars is a garbage can... This cannot wear the underpants of deadpool which cost 40 mil and is currently ahead in terms of box office... That is 6 times more.. Well for what a kiddie turnstile dumbed down pg 250. Million comic book waste. Let's look at a movie that's costs less than 50% captain America 2 for instance... Good movie good -script and a bunch of superheroes .. It can be done right and not make it look like a 1/2 hour video game. Disappointed as to what it could have been and the damage it is gonna create it should have grossed over a billion dollars by now and done about 1.5 by the time the run was over if done right... This is gonna crawl to 800. Mil. By the end of the run.

 

Edited April 7, 2016 by Mmehdy

[Wayne-Tec]

ComicBook.com's users (8,200+ of them) have voted Dawn of Justice a 4.26/5 -- the the 3rd highest grade given to a comic book movie ever.

 

Although I enjoyed the film, I don't think I'd grade it that high.

 

But from my personal experience, those who have seen the film have spoken MUCH higher of it than the critics and those on the boards.