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[HarveySwick]

quadman78

[jaybuck43]

He's in the wrong then. The book should never have been on hold. it should have been off the market. You agreed to his terms (no paypal, no shipping out of the US) so the book is yours. My reason for pointing out that thread and Rick's take it was because I thought he (the seller) was in talks with someone (i.e. Hey could you do $9,900 etc) and had put it on hold during the discussion and thus the unconditional should take it, but yours was unconditional as well, and first in line.

[crassus]

I would have thought all the risk was Randy's. 10k and no buyer protection.

[jaybuck43]

My first post to him was

Subject line Action #23

 

His response

 

Ill put a hold on it until we can agree on shipping/payment terms

 

My response

 

Perfect!

 

Edit: I would post the whole pm thread but I have no idea how.

 

Go to the PM, click Quote, copy the whole thing that shows up, then paste it in here

[Buzzetta]

He's in the wrong then. The book should never have been on hold. it should have been off the market. You agreed to his terms (no paypal, no shipping out of the US) so the book is yours. My reason for pointing out that thread and Rick's take it was because I thought he (the seller) was in talks with someone (i.e. Hey could you do $9,900 etc) and had put it on hold during the discussion and thus the unconditional should take it, but yours was unconditional as well, and first in line.

 

Agreed... as soon as I saw that it was Quadman, I knew this was about the Action 23 even before I came to this thread.

[Iceman399]

He's in the wrong then. The book should never have been on hold. it should have been off the market. You agreed to his terms (no paypal, no shipping out of the US) so the book is yours. My reason for pointing out that thread and Rick's take it was because I thought he (the seller) was in talks with someone (i.e. Hey could you do $9,900 etc) and had put it on hold during the discussion and thus the unconditional should take it, but yours was unconditional as well, and first in line.

 

Agreed... as soon as I saw that it was Quadman, I knew this was about the Action 23 even before I came to this thread.

 

Haha sorta obvious eh Hope the seller does the right thing.

[comicdonna]

Randy and I did a super huge deal a few days after he got here. A top notch person to do business with.

[thehumantorch]

I would think that the book is Randy's.

Action 23 on hold [for Randy]

If he held it for you and you offered to pay whichever way he wanted, I would say the book is yours and if he doesn't honor the transaction, discuss HERE next.

 

But honestly, who knows. I hate rules like this

Normal rules apply

USA Shipping only

No Paypal on these

We can discuss payment/shipping/pickup options

I have done a few large deals here 5k-20k if you would like boardies names lmk and ill ask them to vouch for me.

What does that even mean? Everyone has their own set of rules... does this mean?

1) First in the thread trumps all PM negotiations

or

2) First timestamped wins

or

3) Who knows.

 

I would think the book is Randy's, but I'm curious what others think.

 

Agreed. Normal rules apply Define normal around here.

[HarveySwick]

Randy and I did a super huge deal a few days after he got here. A top notch person to do business with.

Sold me my first Daredevil #1

 

Easily one of the nicest guys I've dealt with here. (thumbs u

[bb8]

I would have thought all the risk was Randy's. 10k and no buyer protection.

 

This is what I don't get when sellers say "I don't know about you" on non-paypal/credit card deals. Buyer has zero protection. I've done these deals before knowing full well that I could possibly lose out on the money, but took the risk based on the seller's rep.

 

The only repercussions would be the buyer trashing the seller online for something, but the buyer should do whatever they can in the even of a scam. Idk, seems like the lion's share of the risk falls with the buyer outside of ppal or cc.

[Domo Arigato]

 

Book is quadman78's.

 

Only way the seller would have been in the right here is if he had told quadman that he was not willing to use a third party to handle the transaction and then asked quadman if he still wanted to do the transaction without one.

 

quadman78's request to use a mutually known third party as a middleman is not an unusual one on a $10,000 book between a buyer and seller who aren't familiar with each other.

 

 

[crassus]

I would think that the book is Randy's.

Action 23 on hold [for Randy]

If he held it for you and you offered to pay whichever way he wanted, I would say the book is yours and if he doesn't honor the transaction, discuss HERE next.

 

But honestly, who knows. I hate rules like this

Normal rules apply

USA Shipping only

No Paypal on these

We can discuss payment/shipping/pickup options

I have done a few large deals here 5k-20k if you would like boardies names lmk and ill ask them to vouch for me.

What does that even mean? Everyone has their own set of rules... does this mean?

1) First in the thread trumps all PM negotiations

or

2) First timestamped wins

or

3) Who knows.

 

I would think the book is Randy's, but I'm curious what others think.

 

Agreed. Normal rules apply Define normal around here.

 

I think if this is looked at in reverse there is a "normal" that is here applicable. If Randy, after placing the I'll take it via PM, had backed out of the deal, and the seller had come here complaining, there would have been no doubt as to fault. The reverse than must also be true, and here the seller is at fault.

 

"Normal rules" can only mean what is conventional on the Boards. It is at the very least common practice, and indeed enforceable practice, that I'll take it establishes an obligation. Randy put in fact no conditions on the I'll take it.

[quadman78]

 

Ok, I think I've got it...

 

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#5171545 - Today at 06:46 PM Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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#5171572 - Today at 07:00 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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Ill put a hold on it until we can agree on shipping/payment terms

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#5171576 - Today at 07:01 PM Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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Ok perfect.

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#5171577 - Today at 07:01 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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K are you in Canada? Whats the best way to do this?

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#5171595 - Today at 07:09 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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I can only ship US. Do you have a USA address?

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#5171615 - Today at 07:22 PM Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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I do have a US address. I was thinking with such a large purchase maybe we can use reputable board member as a middle man? Maybe Filter or GAtor?

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#5171619 - Today at 07:23 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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With all due respect I would like to sell to a more established member that has less risk on my part. Thanks for your interest anyway

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#5171624 - Today at 07:24 PM Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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I'll send a cheque straight up then

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#5171630 - Today at 07:25 PM Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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I have made major purchases on here with many boardies. Check my kudos.

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#5171653 - Today at 07:34 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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Its been sold with no conditions sorry

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#5171669 - Today at 07:40 PM Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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That's bad business sir. I'll be filing a complaint.

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#5171687 - Today at 07:45 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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I did not accept your Ill take it through PM. You had a conditional ill take it (Out of country, 3rd party) and I had a buyer who had no conditions. I elected to sell to the person with no conditions

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#5171701 - 52 minutes 20 seconds ago Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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My did not have any conditions on it. You said you would put it on hold until we worked out payment plans which we were in the middle of doing.

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#5171715 - 48 minutes 41 seconds ago Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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I said HOLD not you got it or anything like that. My post said USA only and you are Canada. You have a US address ok but you wanted 3rd party and have a year on the boards and live in a different country. That's too many variables for a 5 figure book. You did not post in the thread and even if you did you still had conditions. I am not taking a shot that everything will go right with a 10k book.

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[comicdonna]

Make sure you add him to the probation list, if you don't get the book.

[jaybuck43]

Book should be yours quadman.

[Iceman399]

He was CLEARLY willing to work with you until he saw an option that was slightly easier when Rick posted the

[Sqeggs]

I would think that the book is Randy's.

Action 23 on hold [for Randy]

If he held it for you and you offered to pay whichever way he wanted, I would say the book is yours and if he doesn't honor the transaction, discuss HERE next.

 

But honestly, who knows. I hate rules like this

Normal rules apply

USA Shipping only

No Paypal on these

We can discuss payment/shipping/pickup options

I have done a few large deals here 5k-20k if you would like boardies names lmk and ill ask them to vouch for me.

What does that even mean? Everyone has their own set of rules... does this mean?

1) First in the thread trumps all PM negotiations

or

2) First timestamped wins

or

3) Who knows.

 

I would think the book is Randy's, but I'm curious what others think.

 

Agreed. Normal rules apply Define normal around here.

 

I think if this is looked at in reverse there is a "normal" that is here applicable. If Randy, after placing the I'll take it via PM, had backed out of the deal, and the seller had come here complaining, there would have been no doubt as to fault. The reverse than must also be true, and here the seller is at fault.

 

"Normal rules" can only mean what is conventional on the Boards. It is at the very least common practice, and indeed enforceable practice, that I'll take it establishes an obligation. Randy put in fact no conditions on the I'll take it.

 

This analysis makes sense to me.

[HarveySwick]

Make sure you add him to the probation list, if you don't get the book.

100%

[Sqeggs]

Ok, I think I've got it...

 

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#5171545 - Today at 06:46 PM Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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#5171572 - Today at 07:00 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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Ill put a hold on it until we can agree on shipping/payment terms

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#5171576 - Today at 07:01 PM Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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Ok perfect.

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#5171577 - Today at 07:01 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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K are you in Canada? Whats the best way to do this?

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#5171595 - Today at 07:09 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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I can only ship US. Do you have a USA address?

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#5171615 - Today at 07:22 PM Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

Registered: 01/16/13

Posts: 856

Loc: Ontario Canada

I do have a US address. I was thinking with such a large purchase maybe we can use reputable board member as a middle man? Maybe Filter or GAtor?

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#5171619 - Today at 07:23 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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With all due respect I would like to sell to a more established member that has less risk on my part. Thanks for your interest anyway

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#5171624 - Today at 07:24 PM Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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I'll send a cheque straight up then

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#5171630 - Today at 07:25 PM Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

Registered: 01/16/13

Posts: 856

Loc: Ontario Canada

I have made major purchases on here with many boardies. Check my kudos.

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#5171653 - Today at 07:34 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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Its been sold with no conditions sorry

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#5171669 - Today at 07:40 PM Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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That's bad business sir. I'll be filing a complaint.

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#5171687 - Today at 07:45 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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I did not accept your Ill take it through PM. You had a conditional ill take it (Out of country, 3rd party) and I had a buyer who had no conditions. I elected to sell to the person with no conditions

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#5171701 - 52 minutes 20 seconds ago Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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My did not have any conditions on it. You said you would put it on hold until we worked out payment plans which we were in the middle of doing.

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#5171715 - 48 minutes 41 seconds ago Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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I said HOLD not you got it or anything like that. My post said USA only and you are Canada. You have a US address ok but you wanted 3rd party and have a year on the boards and live in a different country. That's too many variables for a 5 figure book. You did not post in the thread and even if you did you still had conditions. I am not taking a shot that everything will go right with a 10k book.

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If you are willing to share it, what's G.A.tor's take on this?

[quadman78]

Ok, I think I've got it...

 

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#5171545 - Today at 06:46 PM Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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#5171572 - Today at 07:00 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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Ill put a hold on it until we can agree on shipping/payment terms

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#5171576 - Today at 07:01 PM Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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Ok perfect.

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#5171577 - Today at 07:01 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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K are you in Canada? Whats the best way to do this?

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#5171595 - Today at 07:09 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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I can only ship US. Do you have a USA address?

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#5171615 - Today at 07:22 PM Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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Loc: Ontario Canada

I do have a US address. I was thinking with such a large purchase maybe we can use reputable board member as a middle man? Maybe Filter or GAtor?

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#5171619 - Today at 07:23 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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With all due respect I would like to sell to a more established member that has less risk on my part. Thanks for your interest anyway

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#5171624 - Today at 07:24 PM Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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I'll send a cheque straight up then

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#5171630 - Today at 07:25 PM Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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Loc: Ontario Canada

I have made major purchases on here with many boardies. Check my kudos.

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#5171653 - Today at 07:34 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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Its been sold with no conditions sorry

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#5171669 - Today at 07:40 PM Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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Loc: Ontario Canada

That's bad business sir. I'll be filing a complaint.

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#5171687 - Today at 07:45 PM Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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I did not accept your Ill take it through PM. You had a conditional ill take it (Out of country, 3rd party) and I had a buyer who had no conditions. I elected to sell to the person with no conditions

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#5171701 - 52 minutes 20 seconds ago Re: Action #23

quadman78

Talkative?

 

 

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Loc: Ontario Canada

My did not have any conditions on it. You said you would put it on hold until we worked out payment plans which we were in the middle of doing.

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#5171715 - 48 minutes 41 seconds ago Re: Action #23

trory140

I am gonna miss that car.

 

 

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I said HOLD not you got it or anything like that. My post said USA only and you are Canada. You have a US address ok but you wanted 3rd party and have a year on the boards and live in a different country. That's too many variables for a 5 figure book. You did not post in the thread and even if you did you still had conditions. I am not taking a shot that everything will go right with a 10k book.

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If you are willing to share it, what's G.A.tor's take on this?

 

No, that's for him to share if he decides. However in our conversation he's been very gracious as he has been any time I've dealt with him in the past.