Let's try this... the Golden Age ORIGINAL ART Thread 4 4

[pemart1966]

1 hour ago, Ameri said:

this was the story and the finished page

Didn't this complete story get auctioned at either Sotheby's or Christie's back in the 90s?

[Ameri]

4 minutes ago, Readcomix said:

Thank you for this! That last paragraph corroborates what the art dealer (and my eyes and others') tell me, that Meskin and Jerry Robinson did finishes over Kirby but he worked on all the pages. I hate that the guide calls this into question, not that I plan on selling it, but other than the Stuntman pages and the couple Cap outliers you showed, the Boys Ranch pages are the earliest Kirby left out there in the collecting community.

Do you have a clearer photo of your Boy's Ranch? The blonde guy in the 4th panel looks very Kirby. 

[Readcomix]

Just now, Ameri said:

Do you have a clearer photo of your Boy's Ranch? The blonde guy in the 4th panel looks very Kirby. 

 

Just now, Ameri said:

Do you have a clearer photo of your Boy's Ranch? The blonde guy in the 4th panel looks very Kirby. 

Thank you, exactly! I will try to reshoot it.

[Readcomix]

[Readcomix]

I think all the faces on the page are very 50's Kirby, and the art is quite consistent thru all six issues of Boys' Ranch.

[Ameri]

Just now, Readcomix said:

I think all the faces on the page are very 50's Kirby, and the art is quite consistent thru all six issues of Boys' Ranch.

The faces sure look Kirby especially the kid in the first panel and the guys at the table. That blonde guy actually looks like Kirby.  It it was inked by someone else, it didn't obscure the original artist's style. When Ditko inked Kirby in Hulk 2, everything looked Ditko, but not in your case.  

[Readcomix]

2 minutes ago, Ameri said:

The faces sure look Kirby especially the kid in the first panel and the guys at the table. That blonde guy actually looks like Kirby.  It it was inked by someone else, it didn't obscure the original artist's style. When Ditko inked Kirby in Hulk 2, everything looked Ditko, but not in your case.  

Thank you! I'm pretty confident the guide is wrong in this case, and I've to find someone who disagrees after actually seeing this page. It looks very much like Kirby finished by Meskin and Robinson.

[Ameri]

28 minutes ago, Readcomix said:

Thank you! I'm pretty confident the guide is wrong in this case, and I've to find someone who disagrees after actually seeing this page. It looks very much like Kirby finished by Meskin and Robinson.

In Joe Simon's bio, he said that he and Jack thought Boys Ranch was their best collaborative effort. Given that, Kirby was more invested in that series than many others. Given that, he mostly likely did all the art. There's this Boy Explorer art on Ebay that is clearly not Kirby:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Joe-Simon-Jack-Kirby-1946-Boy-Explorers-2-pg-43-Original-art-RARE-/391625620690?hash=item5b2eb4bcd2:g:jjcAAOSw-KFXccoS

  

[Scrooge]

I have two Fiction House Firehair pages by Lubbers. Here's one with the printed version below -

 

[walclark]

A half page by Charles Sultan.

 

 

 

 

 

[Readcomix]

7 hours ago, Ameri said:

In Joe Simon's bio, he said that he and Jack thought Boys Ranch was their best collaborative effort. Given that, Kirby was more invested in that series than many others. Given that, he mostly likely did all the art. There's this Boy Explorer art on Ebay that is clearly not Kirby:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Joe-Simon-Jack-Kirby-1946-Boy-Explorers-2-pg-43-Original-art-RARE-/391625620690?hash=item5b2eb4bcd2:g:jjcAAOSw-KFXccoS

  

Thank you! I have no idea what the notation in the guide derives from; all things including the BR piece itself point to it being Kirby.

[walclark]

Wasn't this the basis for a MASH episode?

 

Edited March 23, 2017 by walclark

[Monkeyman]

In the GCD it says this is Lee Elias, but the dealer who sold it to me insisted it's Bob Lubbers.  I'm not good enough with artists to be able to tell the difference.  Does anyone have any opinions?

Mike

 

Edited March 23, 2017 by Monkeyman

[MrBedrock]

15 hours ago, Ameri said:

Used to have page 6 from the same Submariner story. No Subby on that page either 

Beautiful. Did you see that one of the Subby pages sold in the last Heritage auction?

[Scrooge]

1 hour ago, Monkeyman said:

In the GCD it says this is Lee Elias, but the dealer who sold it to me insisted it's Bob Lubbers.  I'm not good enough with artists to be able to tell the difference.  Does anyone have any opinions?

Mike

 

Looks more like Elias than Lubbers to my non-professional eyes. Among multiple differences in styles (thickness of long ink lines, dotting in the branches, etc.), the one that stand out in my mind is the many ink lines in Firehair's hair which is much more Elias than Lubbers. Lubbers generally define the shape of the hair and will let color define folds while Elias inks in all hair meshes and threads.

[Monkeyman]

Thanks for the insights.

Mike

[Ameri]

6 hours ago, MrBedrock said:

Beautiful. Did you see that one of the Subby pages sold in the last Heritage auction?

Yes, that was the one I posted which is page 6. I consigned it to them. When I originally purchased it, the dealer had most of the story but only one page with Subby, but it was very expensive so I opted for the cheapest one. Here were his other pages. He had the one that you own as well, which is page 2. These are pages 3,7,8. The Sub Mariner page was great but thousands more.

 

[walclark]

From Green Hornet #20.  I think this is the only OA I own with a Hitler image.

 

[walclark]

What it should look like.

[gino2paulus2]

19 hours ago, walclark said:

From Green Hornet #20.  I think this is the only OA I own with a Hitler image.

 

WOW!!!! Thats awesome Walter!!!