Dr.Fate'sFullHelmet Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Current CGC slab with well/Wavy covers I just received a lovely Journey Into Mystery #90 CGC 8.0 certified on 11/07/2016 and since it was slabbed after June 2016 it has the revamped holder with the well. It exhibits the telltale waviness on the back (horizontal and a few vertical) that has been characteristically seen in books encased in the previous type slab (April-June 2016), not severe at all, but noticeable. Has anyone else experienced this with current (newest) CGC holders? I'm wondering what the devil could be causing it--are the wells too constricting, or the Mylar sleeves too tight? Of course I would rather not have to crack it out, but it's a relatively scarce book in higher grades so of course I'd like it keep it as undisturbed as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitboss Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Might want to take some pics to prove your point.Book looks fine in scan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Fate'sFullHelmet Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) The waviness refuses to show up on any pic I can take. The book has to be held at a certain angle to see it, which if you have experience with waviness in a slab you'll understand what I mean. Anyway, I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone. I'm interested in getting input from others who may have had a similar experience with the newest GCG holders. I included a pic to show the type of slab I'm referring to. Edited March 23, 2017 by Dr.Fate'sFullHelmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entalmighty1 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I'd just go ahead and call CGC and tell them you're sending it back. Why risk doing permanent damage to the book when they'll reslab it for free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I crack all mine out of the slabs before they are ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaard Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 3 hours ago, lizards2 said: I crack all mine out of the slabs before they are ruined. Do you need a special tool with these new slabs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Gaard said: 5 hours ago, lizards2 said: I crack all mine out of the slabs before they are ruined. Do you need a special tool with these new slabs? I just use a painter's tool and my fingers with all slabs. However, the new slabs are a biatch to get the books out of - just terrible. Dr.Fate'sFullHelmet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mijael.Levy Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I just stay away from new holders . lizards2, Dr.Fate'sFullHelmet and Mio 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Mijael.Levy said: I just stay away from new holders . That's actually some good advice. Dr.Fate'sFullHelmet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy_McShillihan Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) Yup sent a book back to CGC had waves .... when it came back it still had slight waves to it ... I think they pooched it while pressing it Edited March 25, 2017 by Paddy_McShillihan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy_McShillihan Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 On 2017-03-23 at 3:15 PM, lizards2 said: I just use a painter's tool and my fingers with all slabs. However, the new slabs are a biatch to get the books out of - just terrible. Yea the old ones are a cake walk compared to cracking new ones ... they don't come out cleanly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Paddy_McShillihan said: On 3/23/2017 at 0:15 PM, lizards2 said: I just use a painter's tool and my fingers with all slabs. However, the new slabs are a biatch to get the books out of - just terrible. Yea the old ones are a cake walk compared to cracking new ones ... they don't come out cleanly Yeah - I end up with lots of shattered pieces. The old ones came out clean 95% of the time, and the outer wells could be reused to protect stuff. Now with the new slabs, it is just a bunch of broken pieces. spidermanbeyond 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I'm surprised we have not heard of anyone hurting themselves yet. The way the slab snaps apart and shatters you could easier get cut on the sharp edges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 1 hour ago, 1Cool said: I'm surprised we have not heard of anyone hurting themselves yet. The way the slab snaps apart and shatters you could easier get cut on the sharp edges. Or a large sharp triangle of plastic lodged in your eye - Freddy Wertham would be proud! I wear glasses when I pop those suckers. r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Fate'sFullHelmet Posted March 26, 2017 Author Share Posted March 26, 2017 On 3/23/2017 at 7:10 AM, entalmighty1 said: I'd just go ahead and call CGC and tell them you're sending it back. Why risk doing permanent damage to the book when they'll reslab it for free? Well, of course I'd be concerned that they would simply put it in the same type of holder that may be causing the anomaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Fate'sFullHelmet Posted March 26, 2017 Author Share Posted March 26, 2017 I appreciate the input, sad to see I'm not the only one having this problem with this particular type of slab. Can't understand why they just don't go back to two designs ago and leave it at that. I like how sturdy the new holders are, but the same material could simply be used in constructing innocuous slabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mio Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Sealing the edges was a bad idea. Any keeper books of mine come out of the new holder, as hard as it is to do. Newton rings continue to be an unsightly problem. Larryw7 and Skull Squadron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Fate'sFullHelmet Posted March 27, 2017 Author Share Posted March 27, 2017 17 hours ago, Mio said: Sealing the edges was a bad idea. Any keeper books of mine come out of the new holder, as hard as it is to do. Newton rings continue to be an unsightly problem. They sure are; at this point I think CGC should just throw in the towel and go back to the old design. They could simply expand the size of the well to what it was two designs ago and use materials in the sleeve and slab that don't interact and cause visible effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicquant Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) I've probably had 75 slabs come back in the latest version without any issues. I have two with newton rings but they don't bother me. Edited March 27, 2017 by comicquant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I like pie Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 8 hours ago, Dr.Fate'sFullHelmet said: They sure are; at this point I think CGC should just throw in the towel and go back to the old design. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...