Senormac Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 11 hours ago, jhutton2 said: Yeah it's a bit painful Don't throw them away. There has got to still be some kind of use or fun to be had with them. Maybe you could do a Frederick Wertham / The Beatles, comic burning reenactment party. Have everyone dress in a suit and tie and be throwing comics into a blazing bonfire. Then put the video on U-tube. You'll get a million hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solm4st3r Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 This thread motivated me to get into the crawl space of my house and check for termites and water leaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01TheDude Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Senormac said: Don't throw them away. There has got to still be some kind of use or fun to be had with them. Maybe you could do a Frederick Wertham / The Beatles, comic burning reenactment party. Have everyone dress in a suit and tie and be throwing comics into a blazing bonfire. Then put the video on U-tube. You'll get a million hits if there is any way to dry them out, they might still be useful to someone as readers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicwiz Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, jhutton2 said: Its an older house that had some water leakage issues due to an older style concrete block foundation when we first moved in. We had the house set up with external waterproofing and new drainage systems which worked well for the last 4 or five years. The basement has sunken windows with those galvanized barriers around them that protrude up through the ground. With a combination of all the heavy rains, and some erosion around the window area with the barrier settling over the years, a big run off of water basically emptied directly to the window space and flowed right past the window frame, down the wall and into the basement room from what I can tell. Windows are meant to be weather proof, not submersible proof. I did some fix up today that should keep it from happening again. I'm sorry to hear this happened. We had a late 1800's house in the downtown area. When we did the window well work, we dug 12 feet, to under the foundation wall and that was one of the dryest summers on record, and hit the water table at 10ft. The workers were working in 2 feet of water the whole time. With the rain we've had this year (which I understand from environment Canada is nearing triple the amount we've had in previous summers) the water table must be higher - I would estimate in the 8 to 9 feet threshold. And we were very far from Lake Ontario, up on a hill (if you know the Davenport and Bathurst Street hill, that's the hill I'm talking about). A sump pump on an old build is never the same as one that's installed when the house is being constructed from the ground up. Proper grading and drainage in a tightly clustered neighbourhood never works because even if you're moving water away from your house, it's either going into your neighbours lot, or sinking back down to the water table - in Toronto, any house with an 8+ foot basement is going to be sitting on water with the kind of seasonal summer we've had. Did you have insurance? I'm just curious if you've spoken to them yet, as it's become a major issue all across Canada, with many insurers not covering such losses, and insisting people get additional water protection coverage. I hope you aren't one of them. If you need help with appraising your loss, feel free to contact me. I'm accredited through the CPPA as a personal property appraiser. Best of luck with everything. Edited July 13, 2017 by comicwiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 8 hours ago, thehumantorch said: Perhaps just a mite bit harsh. Perhaps a great deal of sarcasm. thehumantorch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhutton2 Posted July 13, 2017 Author Share Posted July 13, 2017 1 hour ago, comicwiz said: I'm sorry to hear this happened. We had a late 1800's house in the downtown area. When we did the window well work, we dug 12 feet, to under the foundation wall and that was one of the dryest summers on record, and hit the water table at 10ft. The workers were working in 2 feet of water the whole time. With the rain we've had this year (which I understand from environment Canada is nearing triple the amount we've had in previous summers) the water table must be higher - I would estimate in the 8 to 9 feet threshold. And we were very far from Lake Ontario, up on a hill (if you know the Davenport and Bathurst Street hill, that's the hill I'm talking about). A sump pump on an old build is never the same as one that's installed when the house is being constructed from the ground up. Proper grading and drainage in a tightly clustered neighbourhood never works because even if you're moving water away from your house, it's either going into your neighbours lot, or sinking back down to the water table - in Toronto, any house with an 8+ foot basement is going to be sitting on water with the kind of seasonal summer we've had. Did you have insurance? I'm just curious if you've spoken to them yet, as it's become a major issue all across Canada, with many insurers not covering such losses, and insisting people get additional water protection coverage. I hope you aren't one of them. If you need help with appraising your loss, feel free to contact me. I'm accredited through the CPPA as a personal property appraiser. Best of luck with everything. Thanks for the info. Not going to go through insurance as the damage has been pretty minimal all things considered. My neighbors put a claim in a number of years ago when a main break put two feet of water in their basement, the cost of clean up and damages was over 60K. They had had one previous smaller water claim as well. There insurer will no longer provide them with any flood coverage as part of their insurance ? Hopefully I won't run in to any severe flooding situations , but if I ever do, that is when I will be contacting our insurance group to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artistlost Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Man that's horrible. Sorry that this happened and glad that the damage wasn't too bad... Losing those books you collected in your youth really sucks lizards2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I can feel your pain. Even if the loss was limited, it happened to me twice to have water in my room (due to a lack of attention from the bathroom). This resulted in the damaging/loss of a few unique items that I had (primarily paper stuff from the 1910s-1940s, and related to my WW2/comics research, especially newspapers, posters and large sized items, as I lacked the space to store them properly away from the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelangelo Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 sorry for your loss on the plus side, it could have been way worse why not donate the damaged books to a library or a school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 3 hours ago, vaillant said: I can feel your pain. Even if the loss was limited, it happened to me twice to have water in my room (due to a lack of attention from the bathroom). This resulted in the damaging/loss of a few unique items that I had (primarily paper stuff from the 1910s-1940s, and related to my WW2/comics research, especially newspapers, posters and large sized items, as I lacked the space to store them properly away from the floor. Some of you know that our electric furnace caught fire, and burnt up on January 15 of this year. Luckily, my son came home and discovered it before anything more than some smoke damage occurred. Despite the comic cavern being located adjacent to the furnace room, no comics were damaged. We've finally (this week) finished with clean up, new carpet, moldings, and multiple coats of fresh paint on everything. We've used the opportunity to sift through many possessions, and send many items to goodwill and the dump. All I have left is to replace the furnace, and with the opportunity of hot weather, we've decided to go with the heat pump option, so that us old folks will have air conditioning in the future. long story short, I came off very lucky on the comic front. Pretty sure if they had all burnt up, it would have facilitated my swift exit from the hobby..., a missed opportunity. porcupine48, vaillant and Mystafo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystafo Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Ugh, Jason I am so sorry this happened bro...hope the clean up goes as quickly and painlessly as possible. vaillant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 23 minutes ago, lizards2 said: Some of you know that our electric furnace caught fire, and burnt up on January 15 of this year. Luckily, my son came home and discovered it before anything more than some smoke damage occurred. Despite the comic cavern being located adjacent to the furnace room, no comics were damaged. We've finally (this week) finished with clean up, new carpet, moldings, and multiple coats of fresh paint on everything. We've used the opportunity to sift through many possessions, and send many items to goodwill and the dump. All I have left is to replace the furnace, and with the opportunity of hot weather, we've decided to go with the heat pump option, so that us old folks will have air conditioning in the future. long story short, I came off very lucky on the comic front. Pretty sure if they had all burnt up, it would have facilitated my swift exit from the hobby..., a missed opportunity. Unfortunate as they are, these things (especially when the damage is limited) help us to realize we are often too attached to a number of things we would barely enjoy or put to good use once again! jhutton2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entalmighty1 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Mystafo said: Ugh, Jason I am so sorry this happened bro...hope the clean up goes as quickly and painlessly as possible. Ditto, I feel terrible for you. Here's hoping the Planet's got through unscathed and unsullied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehumantorch Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 2 hours ago, lizards2 said: Some of you know that our electric furnace caught fire, and burnt up on January 15 of this year. Luckily, my son came home and discovered it before anything more than some smoke damage occurred. Despite the comic cavern being located adjacent to the furnace room, no comics were damaged. We've finally (this week) finished with clean up, new carpet, moldings, and multiple coats of fresh paint on everything. We've used the opportunity to sift through many possessions, and send many items to goodwill and the dump. All I have left is to replace the furnace, and with the opportunity of hot weather, we've decided to go with the heat pump option, so that us old folks will have air conditioning in the future. long story short, I came off very lucky on the comic front. Pretty sure if they had all burnt up, it would have facilitated my swift exit from the hobby..., a missed opportunity. No, it would have been sad to lose you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Architecht Posted July 13, 2017 Administrator Share Posted July 13, 2017 2 hours ago, lizards2 said: Some of you know that our electric furnace caught fire, and burnt up on January 15 of this year. Luckily, my son came home and discovered it before anything more than some smoke damage occurred. Despite the comic cavern being located adjacent to the furnace room, no comics were damaged. We've finally (this week) finished with clean up, new carpet, moldings, and multiple coats of fresh paint on everything. We've used the opportunity to sift through many possessions, and send many items to goodwill and the dump. All I have left is to replace the furnace, and with the opportunity of hot weather, we've decided to go with the heat pump option, so that us old folks will have air conditioning in the future. long story short, I came off very lucky on the comic front. Pretty sure if they had all burnt up, it would have facilitated my swift exit from the hobby..., a missed opportunity. Glad it wasn't too bad. That's another thing you can add to a smartthings monitor: https://support.smartthings.com/hc/en-us/articles/201581984-First-Alert-Smoke-Detector-and-Carbon-Monoxide-Alarm-ZCOMBO- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhutton2 Posted July 13, 2017 Author Share Posted July 13, 2017 3 hours ago, entalmighty1 said: Ditto, I feel terrible for you. Here's hoping the Planet's got through unscathed and unsullied. The Planets were all ok. I keep those in another room well away from the floor kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy_McShillihan Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 On 2017-07-12 at 0:46 PM, jhutton2 said: I am up in Markham/Thornhill. Its the same rain Sorry to hear this .... yea the rain has been non stop it seems this summer ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Paddy_McShillihan said: Sorry to hear this .... yea the rain has been non stop it seems this summer ... Super dry and hot in Edmonton so far this summer. Sorry to hear about the flooding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheta42 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) 18 hours ago, jhutton2 said: The Planets were all ok. I keep those in another room well away from the floor I am glad your Planets didn't get damaged Jason.....were talking about the comics right You are lucky you got away with little damage Jason. I had a flood at my parents house when I was a teen and all my Cracked , Mad and magazine size books were damaged, my comics were on higher ground and safe. It is a horrible feeling. I hope it all works out for you Jason. We have had a lot of rain in Toronto this year. Edited July 14, 2017 by cheta42 jhutton2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman76 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 You are throwing them away just because they are wet? They can be dried out and still be readable and fine. Seems like a huge waste to me to just toss them when they just need to be dried out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
