batman_fan Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Definitely not my favorite of his run, but I suspect it will go pretty high. I have to say, I am amazed at the price people are throwing around. Not because I think they are way over on their estimates but more at how much the market has moved up in price over the last 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matches_Malone Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Kwan Chang said: Well I'm not too sure what that means. As I can see stats now in the link. I'm sure CL didn't add the logos/stats to the piece. where did it come from as dc hasn't used stats in a long time It’s an acetate overlay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Chang Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Matches_Malone said: It’s an acetate overlay. hey hey hey. im sure of that too. but my question is...........who added it on ? and no where on the auction description does it mention that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
▫️ Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Because it’s meaningless. It’s just a disposable overlay for dressing. Could have been made by the owner. mister_not_so_nice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnusX Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 After all the drama we saw in 2017 between CLink and that upset customer, description and disclosure should be front line, specially with high end pieces... JadeGiant, alxjhnsn and Mr. Machismo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaSealed Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I would give them benefit of the doubt for now since the auction has yet to start(and I’m sure once someone from clink reads this thread they will add it to the description.) They obviously should be disclosing the overlay is added after the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeGiant Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 32 minutes ago, MagnusX said: After all the drama we saw in 2017 between CLink and that upset customer, description and disclosure should be front line, specially with high end pieces... Absolutely. How could you list anything without full disclosure is beyond me. I just don't get it. SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panelfan1 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, JadeGiant said: Absolutely. How could you list anything without full disclosure is beyond me. I just don't get it. SMH if someone created an overlay to include with a piece of art - I would see that as a positive. it wouldn't affect the price with or without it - but having it is a nice bonus. I think folks may be making much ado about nothing here. Claudio, mister_not_so_nice and SquareChaos 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 How much would a two-armed Batman Hush cover bring at auction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 20 minutes ago, comix4fun said: How much would a two-armed Batman Hush cover bring at auction? An arm and a leg Mr. Machismo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Claudio said: An arm and a leg Sounds like a good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenlake Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Panelfan1 said: if someone created an overlay to include with a piece of art - I would see that as a positive. it wouldn't affect the price with or without it - but having it is a nice bonus. I think folks may be making much ado about nothing here. Yeah, compared to the many problems on every OA auction site I've used, this is really unimportant IMO. I just won a piece from HA, then checked one of those sites out there that have copies of GA books and the art isn't in the book. It's a tough artist to get so I'm not really upset, but if I'd have known I would've spent more money on a larger piece by them that was actually listed as unpublished. Edited January 31, 2018 by Greenlake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jqa3 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 On 1/31/2018 at 10:19 AM, MagnusX said: After all the drama we saw in 2017 between CLink and that upset customer, description and disclosure should be front line, specially with high end pieces... On 1/31/2018 at 3:17 PM, Greenlake said: Yeah, compared to the many problems on every OA auction site I've used, this is really unimportant IMO. I'm siding with the folks asking for full disclosure. If it's not in the ORIGINAL (published) condition, why not include that information. Those of you who say "no big deal" just wait until you get a piece that's been altered/enhanced/modified/etc. after publication and see how quick your view changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matches_Malone Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 The following information is included in the listed auction. Note: Logo and type stats are reproductions affixed to a clear, plastic acetate overlay which is adhered to the back of the art board with artist's tape, which is easily removable. The second image is the art as it appears without the overlay. JadeGiant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenlake Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, jqa3 said: I'm siding with the folks asking for full disclosure. If it's not in the ORIGINAL (published) condition, why not include that information. Those of you who say "no big deal" just wait until you get a piece that's been altered/enhanced/modified/etc. after publication and see how quick your view changes. I never argued against disclosure -- that'd be silly -- but this is nowhere near the same as altering artwork, gluing new stats to art, undisclosed physical damage (experienced that with another auction site in Dec.), not disclosing if it's ink over blue line or if there are separate pencils (happens all the time), or as I already mentioned claiming a piece was published in a particular book when it wasn't. It's just an overlay. Don't like it? It comes right off. Yeah, ideally disclose everything, it's just one of the least important mistakes these OA auctions have. Edited February 2, 2018 by Greenlake ▫️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twanj Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 One of the auction items disclosed that CL had the overlay created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeGiant Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 11 hours ago, Matches_Malone said: The following information is included in the listed auction. Note: Logo and type stats are reproductions affixed to a clear, plastic acetate overlay which is adhered to the back of the art board with artist's tape, which is easily removable. The second image is the art as it appears without the overlay. This is an acceptable description. Was this on the original listing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhamlau Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I dont see much of any issue with someone spending a little extra to give the eventual buyer a high quality overlay if they want to display it in similar manner to the cover, especially since no physical original likely ever existed (done digitally). This is still the auction preview, things change and get added/updated all the time to listings before bidding begins as I understand it. comix4fun and Twanj 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thawk Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Man, I'd love this thing. It's out of my league by more than a factor of 10, but a solid Hush page has always been my #1 wish for my collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F For Fake Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Surprised to hear that some folks aren't big on this one. It's Jim Lee, it's Hush (he's even in the background!), and it has a raggedy- Robin skeleton on it. Pretty cool if you ask me! I'm way out of my depth where this $$$-level is being discussed, but I'd think it's a slam dunk $50k these days. I'd love to have it. Have to sell some organs, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
