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[newshane]

2 minutes ago, RockMyAmadeus said:

Heaven's no. That's why they are who they are, and that is why their work has lasted. There's more than enough from the masters to enjoy in several lifetimes.

Poor Cicero...he only had Plato, Aristotle, and Socrates to draw from...no slouches, mind you, but what Cicero could have done with Shakespeare boggles the mind...

 

I am just saying. there is room for both mindless music (see your radio dial) and Beethoven. Each serve a purpose and have a time and a place. Both can be enjoyable.

[newshane]

1 minute ago, I like pie said:

Obviously.

loooooooool

[I like pie]

1 minute ago, newshane said:

Krull. Because it's awesome.

 

 

 

[RockMyAmadeus]

2 minutes ago, newshane said:

Krull. Because it's awesome.

Well, then, that explains that!

20 minutes ago, newshane said:

23 minutes ago, RockMyAmadeus said:

Who is "we"...? Do you have more than one person floating around in your cerebellum...?

 

This is quite possible.

I'd say "highly probable" at this point.

20 minutes ago, newshane said:

24 minutes ago, RockMyAmadeus said:

but the condescenders don't want to admit their condescension, and act shocked....SHOCKED, I say!....when they get a spoonful in return.

 

Sorry. I am not shocked.

Nor should you be, as I just said.

21 minutes ago, newshane said:

24 minutes ago, RockMyAmadeus said:

Agreed...which is why one ought not be calling people bitter and old sans provocation, non...?

Sorry I hurt your feelings you bitter old man! :P

I may just go cry in the corner for a good hour. 

Are you happy now? Making an old man cry....

[RockMyAmadeus]

20 minutes ago, newshane said:

23 minutes ago, RockMyAmadeus said:

Heaven's no. That's why they are who they are, and that is why their work has lasted. There's more than enough from the masters to enjoy in several lifetimes.

Poor Cicero...he only had Plato, Aristotle, and Socrates to draw from...no slouches, mind you, but what Cicero could have done with Shakespeare boggles the mind...

 

I am just saying. there is room for both mindless music (see your radio dial) and Beethoven. Each serve a purpose and have a time and a place. Both can be enjoyable.

Who said there wasn't....?

(Hint: nobody.)

The issue was the hack job that is The Last Jedi. It's garbage. And, while it has redeeming qualities...cinematographically, it's a masterpiece...but, then, so were the Prequels...it is gross, insulting, condescending tripe...and this is the part you should understand: it's not stand alone tripe. It had a foundation that was about as strong as exists, cinematically. They only need have built upon that which was already there. Instead, they ripped the foundation to shreds, because...well...they're in Hollywood, and you're not, so they know better than you...

....right?

[RockMyAmadeus]

23 minutes ago, I like pie said:

 

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[NoMan]

5 hours ago, Dutch74 said:

After all, I am dealing here mostly with citizens of the USA, a country where facts have become irrelevant and twisting the truth has become a form of art. 

 

 

 

I’m from Hollywood!

[newshane]

40 minutes ago, RockMyAmadeus said:

they're in Hollywood, and you're not, so they know better than you...

 

Not sure, but one thing is for certain - they are getting paid better than me.

[Number 6]

Hold on. 

Krull is not even in the same category as The Last Jedi

Yes, Krull is basically a boilerplate quest movie. Yes, some of the special effects are bad, especially the fire mares and they way they tried to make The Beast look gigantic, both distorting and obscuring his appearance thus totally undermining the finale.*  Yes, the Glaive is the biggest McGuffin nothingburger of all time. And while I appreciate the sentiment, the final solution to defeating The Beast is insipid. 

BUT...it has some really cool ideas:

- the Black Fortress is only in the same place for 24 hours and moves randomally at sunset. 

- the interior of the Fortress looks like The Beast’s innards  

- the Widow of the Web is kept youthful by means of the sands in the hourglass; she sacrifices herself by giving the sands to Ynyr. As the sands pass through his fingers he dies and she grows old. And they get attacked by a giant spider  

- the Cyclops who traded one of their eyes to be able to see the future but were betrayed and the only future they see is their own death 

And there’s some really cool scenes too. When they’re going through that dead swamp and the Slayers start rising out of that  muddy marsh, that was one of the creepy-coolest things as a kid. 

I would gladly watch Krull any day over The Last Jedi. 

 

* check out the inside back cover of the Marvel Super Special adaptation to see how cool The Beast costume was!

[ExNihilo]

4 hours ago, mattn792 said:

Technically...we could also consider abstracts a form of art...   

"I don't lie.  I write fiction with my mouth."

- Homer Simpson

[Larryw7]

I like Krull.

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[Dutch74]

To answer some questions, here are some pictures of the books I received by Unknown. When you contact Unknown and say these books were in this state before shipping because packaging was perfect, they still ask you for pictures of bag and board. Because it is 'policy'. And when you send the required pictures, they surprise you by asking for pictures of the packaging material. Because it is policy. And when you send these they ask for pictures of the accompanying documentation. Unknown deliberately stalled the discussion with me, trying to make me give up and discourage me of trying to get value for my money. And they do so by continuously hiding behind their 'policy', all of which seems to be focused on protecting the short-term company result in stead of serving the customer. 

I would like to add that I have an excellent record as a buyer and seller. Yes, I expect items and service that are according to description and reasonable expectation and yes, I am vocal in case of underperformance. I gave Unknown plenty of chances to fix this before going public. 

 

[fastballspecial]

At least yours look like shipping damage. My copies they knew about the damage and still shipped them which I find much worse.

[rogue14]

I have ordered from them a few times with no issues. Ordered some slabs recently, arrived damaged and still waiting. 

Think it might be hit or miss with online stores since we cannot see the products before ordering or shipment are sent. No guarantees I guess in the quality assurance area prior to shipping books out slabbed or raw to the customer.

Maybe some improvement is needed in this area.  Normally speaking most online stores that strive to provide great customer service and value their reputation will resolve issues quickly with either a replacement or a refund.

Edited June 29, 2018 by rogue14
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[Jeffro.]

13 hours ago, seanfingh said:

Dutch74 has had an *ahem* interesting series of interactions on the Boards. Suffice it to say, I am shocked neither at the incoherence, nor the vituperative outburst.

I periodically review my ignored boardies list. Sometimes I can't remember why I blocked someone. In the case of the OP, he never fails to remind me with every post he makes. 

Edited June 29, 2018 by Jerkfro

[Jeffro.]

12 hours ago, RockMyAmadeus said:

 

 

Nothing should ever feature Pitbull. 

[Buzzetta]

14 hours ago, Dutch74 said:

It is obvious that everything I post on this forum is subject to a series of automatic negative reactions. But I do not care and I am not surprised. After all, I am dealing here mostly with citizens of the USA, a country where facts have become irrelevant and twisting the truth has become a form of art. To those: feel free to doubt what I say and believe what Darren says. Buy comics at Unknown and see what happens. 

However, there has to be a silent majority of boardies who read these messages, compare them to other bits of information and make up their own mind. If there is just one person who becomes more careful about ordering at Unknown then this is worth it.  

Oh, and Darren. Nice try. Look in the mirror and try saying aloud: "I am NOT a liar"

 

 

 

Say it!  Please say it!

"The wheels are in motion..." 

[Jeffro.]

Would malpractice on a comic book be something like Hooksing a comic when pressing?

[Buzzetta]

11 hours ago, RockMyAmadeus said:

Ooo, contentious provocation! I love it! 

Let me respond by asking you a question in return: does the recognition of works that objectively violate time honored, long established rules of storytelling and craftsmanship always result in accusations of "bitterness" from those who lack the skills necessary to differentiate between good art and bad art...?

Bad "art" is bad "art", regardless of the motives of the one who recognizes it as such. I'm not bitter because I recognize that Rob Liefeld makes bad "art." Are you? The Last Jedi is, objectively, bad "art." It violates all sorts of conventions of storytelling, like plot, character development, character motivation, pacing, etc.

You may not be familiar with this, but in the arts, there is a concept that has often been expressed throughout the centuries: if you're going to break the rules, you first must know them inside and out. That's what Mozart did, that's what Beethoven did, that's what Monet did, that's what Picasso (who is a brilliant example!) did, that's what Hemingway did, that's what Steinbeck did, that's what Kurosawa did, and that's what Spielberg did. These men knew the rules, and demonstrated that they knew the rules, before breaking them. And they knew they were breaking them, and why they were breaking them, when they did so.

But hacks either ignore the rules, or don't know them in the first place, and so have no idea why they're breaking the rules of craftsmanship, or even that they are. This leads to illogical, disjointed works that have no lasting impact on anyone, because the people who made them did not have any respect for what makes great art....or, for that matter, even passably entertaining art. The result is a hodgepodge mess of junk that makes no sense, and is little more than a vehicle for advancing the personal ideologies of the "creators" involved. In other words: propaganda.

And no...very little propaganda has ever survived as great works of art. Maybe...MAYBE...Prokofiev and Shostakovich, who, while producing propaganda for the Soviets, still managed to create masterworks. 

If I want to "recapture the magic I felt as a child", I simply watch those movies again. Piece of cake. 

And old...? Since when is 46 "old"...?

 

I liked Last Jedi... it was Force Awakens that I still want my money back.  

[Buzzetta]

Oh... and as long as we are adding music...