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[Gaard]

I think it's safe to assume that the powers-that-be at CGC aren't comic book collectors. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but if they were, they would probably have a better understanding of this issue.

[nepatkm]

The latest slabs that I’ve received have very, very minimal or no Newton rings, however the minor scuffing still inside. The scuffing, and rings are not that visible, unless you are looking for it.  Getting a lot better. 

Edited September 29, 2018 by nepatkm

[Get Marwood & I]

On 9/29/2018 at 1:54 AM, nepatkm said:

The latest slabs that I’ve received have very, very minimal or no Newton rings, however the minor scuffing still inside. The scuffing, and rings are not that visible, unless you are looking for it.  Getting a lot better. 

It's great news for sure. I took my brand new car back to the showroom the other day as it had a full length crack in the windscreen when it was delivered. I got it back today and the crack is now only a few inches. I'm delighted. I had to pay the delivery fee, but great service overall I thought. 

 

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 for you, nepatkm. Sorry 

 

[nepatkm]

4 hours ago, Get Marwood & I Live! said:

It's great news for sure. I took my brand new car back to the showroom the other day as it had a full length crack in the windscreen when it was delivered. I got it back today and the crack is now only a few inches. I'm delighted. I had to pay the delivery fee, but great service overall I thought. 

 

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 for you, nepatkm. Sorry 

 

Getting a lot better. is the key sentence. 

Still some work to be done for sure, but going from a broken window, to some scuffs under the wheel well would be an improvement right? 

still some work to be done, but a lot better than what I had been receiving a couple of months ago. 

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[nepatkm]

Also my latest books received are not the ones I posted pointing out the scuff marks @Get Marwood & I Live! 

The newer batch were better than those also. 

Major improvements made, alas Still some fine tuning to be done. 

Edited October 2, 2018 by nepatkm

[Get Marwood & I]

7 hours ago, nepatkm said:

Also my latest books received are not the ones I posted pointing out the scuff marks @Get Marwood & I Live! 

The newer batch were better than those also. 

Major improvements made, alas Still some fine tuning to be done. 

I was only playing nepatkm 

I know things are improving. But I'm in the 'only total elimination will do' camp, which I think is a reasonable camp to be in if we're discussing a visual medium product. 

I see ring infested books posted elsewhere graded after the changes. So I still see submission as a gamble and I still see no concrete acceptance on CGCs part to fix and compensate those that are not happy with the product they paid for and waited a long time to receive.

When I see a statement from CGC saying "problem solved", evidenced by no rings from that point, I'll be satisfied. In the meantime, there should be a clear return / compensation position for those receiving faulty products. There isn't one, is there?

[miraclemet]

11 subs at Baltimore. Zero presence of Newton rings. Ill check for well scuffing but I didnt notice anything on initial inspection.

[exitmusicblue]

Zero Newton rings on my recently returned Daredevil 1.

 

[Gaard]

1 hour ago, exitmusicblue said:

Zero Newton rings on my recently returned Daredevil 1.

 

Whew! You can exhale now.

[Get Marwood & I]

The swallows are gathering. My work here is done. No need to thank me guys. It was my pleasure.

-Gmail 

[comicdonna]

I got my book back from CGC today.  I had to tilt it to see 4 tiny newton rings on the front.  I didn't see any on the back.  There was multiple scratches on the outside of the inner mylar.  I would call them moderate scratches, not light.   The worst (deep) ones are more towards the top that don't show up in the pic but, you can make out some down lower.   The spot that looks like a fingerprint is actually scratches, too.  I am guessing they are from their procedure for getting rid of the newton rings.  I think there's still plenty of room for improvement, in that department.   

 

[The Green Ghost]

Do they damage the book, in any way? I don't mind looking at them if it doesn't affect condition.

[Get Marwood & I]

9 minutes ago, brentdevil said:

Do they damage the book, in any way? I don't mind looking at them if it doesn't affect condition.

@CGC Comics

Please send all ringed slabs to brentdevil.

He doesn't mind them.

[skypinkblu]

I'm still waiting for mine to be returned...

[Get Marwood & I]

9 minutes ago, skypinkblu said:

I'm still waiting for mine to be returned...

The wait to get your precious books back must be terrible Sharon. How do you do it? I think I'd go mad 

[Jeffro.]

3 hours ago, brentdevil said:

Do they damage the book, in any way? I don't mind looking at them if it doesn't affect condition.

And it's because of attitudes like this that help CGC justify not completely eliminating the rings. I'm not trying to single you out solely or be an a s s to you but we should all be demanding a higher standard from them and not just accepting the status quo. If we don't demand improvements, we will never get them. Perhaps CGC should start following the Lean tenet of Continuous Improvement. 

[skypinkblu]

2 hours ago, Get Marwood & I Live! said:

The wait to get your precious books back must be terrible Sharon. How do you do it? I think I'd go mad 

It takes me a bit more to get "mad" Steve, but I'm not happy. If I make a mistake I fall over over myself to try to fix it quickly.

[Get Marwood & I]

51 minutes ago, skypinkblu said:

It takes me a bit more to get "mad" Steve, but I'm not happy. If I make a mistake I fall over over myself to try to fix it quickly.

Get mad Sharon. It's good for the soul 

 

[Ride the Tiger]

Arrived today. No newton rings. Zero. Zip. Nada. Beautiful in every way. Cept the grade coulda been higher.

 

[Get Marwood & I]

2 minutes ago, Ride the Tiger said:

Arrived today. No newton rings. Zero. Zip. Nada. Beautiful in every way. Cept the grade coulda been higher.

 

Any scratches?