Panelfan1 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 this is up for auction at comiclink. Jay Anacleto did a great job - but I was shocked to see whoever bought this got it signed in such a manner. see link HERE D2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter L Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Clearly you don't understand what he was trying to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_K Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Based on the topic alone, only one thing came to mind... "Stan Lee" Keys_Collector and Khazano 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shemp Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Why even have the actor sign it? I don't get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister_not_so_nice Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I typically don't have a problem with signatures from artist or writer, even inside the art area. But this is just horrible. It makes me wonder if the owner is selling because s/he feels the same. Perhaps it was set in front of the actor for a signature and before you know it Iron Fist is the Flash and it's done. The current owner just needs it gone because of the trauma. I can't imagine them asking for the signature there. How much did this disaster cost? Art costs + signing fees = Rick2you2, timguerrero, delekkerste and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NelsonAI Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Unfortunately, this happens more than people realize. When asking for autographs, you have to specify exactly where you want them to sign. Even from the artists themselves. The actor, in his defense, may have thought it was a print and not original art. N. Peter L, timguerrero and Twanj 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, mister_not_so_nice said: I typically don't have a problem with signatures from artist or writer, even inside the art area. But this is just horrible. It makes me wonder if the owner is selling because s/he feels the same. Perhaps it was set in front of the actor for a signature and before you know it Iron Fist is the Flash and it's done. The current owner just needs it gone because of the trauma. I can't imagine them asking for the signature there. How much did this disaster cost? Art costs + signing fees = Most times I agree. In this case, however, if an artist (and I can't imagine who'd destroy their own work like that) signed across a main part of the artwork like that I'd have a pretty big problem with it. Edited October 2, 2018 by comix4fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeGiant Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, NelsonAI said: Unfortunately, this happens more than people realize. When asking for autographs, you have to specify exactly where you want them to sign. Even from the artists themselves. The actor, in his defense, may have thought it was a print and not original art. N. Agreed. The actor was probably on auto-pilot and signed it like they sign everything else. Lesson learned, hopefully not too expensive of a lesson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delekkerste Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, Will_K said: Based on the topic alone, only one thing came to mind... "Stan Lee" For me, and probably Brian Peck as well, the only thing that comes to mind can be Frank Thorne and the Marvel Feature v. 2 featuring Red Sonja #2 cover. We were both at the Frank Thorne show at Illustration House a few years ago when the MF v. 2 #2 cover OA owner puts it in front of Frank to sign. Frank (whose eyesight is not so good these days) immediately picks up a thick red marker and proceeds to sign the cover right over the artwork before anyone can stop him, as me and Brian look on in abject horror. Edited October 2, 2018 by delekkerste corrected title to Marvel Feature v. 2 feat. Red Sonja alxjhnsn, jaybuck43, Catwoman_Fan and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnusX Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 For me, it feels the same when the brothersadd the fake stats to any OA. Destroy, gone forever… timguerrero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glendgold Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 29 minutes ago, delekkerste said: For me, and probably Brian Peck as well, the only thing that comes to mind can be Frank Thorne and the Red Sonja #2 cover. We were both at the Frank Thorne show at Illustration House a few years ago when the RS #2 cover OA owner puts it front of Frank to sign. Frank immediately picks up a thick red marker and proceeds to sign the cover right over the artwork before anyone can stop him, as me and Brian look on in abject horror. Wow, I did *not* know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 56 minutes ago, MagnusX said: For me, it feels the same when the brothersadd the fake stats to any OA. Destroy, gone forever… Aren't those on an overlay or removable? I mean, them possessing OA at all makes it destroyed and gone forever for me, but I don't think that removable stats make much of a difference. timguerrero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
▫️ Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I have covers the artist didn’t sign and I wouldn’t think of having it signed since the art goes from edge to edge. Even if it didn’t, I prefer to keep the art exactly as it was when it left the artists hands and went through the production process. It boggles my mind that people even get covers signed again after the artist had already signed it when he created it. I remember a McFarlane cover where he signed three times for whatever reason, probably over a long period of time. Looks ridiculous to me. But whatever floats your boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhamlau Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Whoever wins that, i would assume is going to a restorer to have that removed. Its gold paint pen, i bet something can be done. Peter L 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtymartini1 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 A ton of Sal B work is signed like this as well. Not as blatant crossing over art lines but there are plenty of examples of his big signatures going across an arm or panel page. I always cringe and stare sadly even though I dont own them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipB2k17 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, dirtymartini1 said: A ton of Sal B work is signed like this as well. Not as blatant crossing over art lines but there are plenty of examples of his big signatures going across an arm or panel page. I always cringe and stare sadly even though I dont own them. Yep. I got one, although the signature isn’t in a that bad a spot. I now ask artists to please sign in the margin or on the back. Edited October 2, 2018 by PhilipB2k17 dirtymartini1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwoman_Fan Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 22 hours ago, comix4fun said: Aren't those on an overlay or removable? Unfortunately they also glue stats directly on the art now. But, as you say, the art is already lost in a fire. timguerrero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticNinja Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 8:32 AM, NelsonAI said: Unfortunately, this happens more than people realize. When asking for autographs, you have to specify exactly where you want them to sign. Even from the artists themselves. The actor, in his defense, may have thought it was a print and not original art. N. My first thought was that this happened at one of those quick signing sessions and the actor just signed everything quickly. I've seen comic art signed in the artwork before and not in a clever or hidden way and it makes me wonder what the artist is thinking? Not that the artist's name is bad but most people are getting original artwork and prints framed. I assume artists buy artwork as well and wouldn't want something signed in that matter. So I just think why are they so rushed that we see stuff like that example and others in the beginning of the topic. Usually when I buy artwork or the occasional signed picture I always tell the person I'm going to have it framed. That usually gets to where the signature will go and how I obviously want the art and signature viewable without overlapping anything. timguerrero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timguerrero Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 10:26 AM, Oddball said: I have covers the artist didn’t sign and I wouldn’t think of having it signed since the art goes from edge to edge. Even if it didn’t, I prefer to keep the art exactly as it was when it left the artists hands and went through the production process. It boggles my mind that people even get covers signed again after the artist had already signed it when he created it. I remember a McFarlane cover where he signed three times for whatever reason, probably over a long period of time. Looks ridiculous to me. But whatever floats your boat. I have done it to be sure that what I have is really done by the artist. I had Adam Hughes resign a preliminary for a WW cover I bought as I wanted to be sure it was really made by him. I also like to get the writers to sign the artwork too just never like the defaced that Anacleto piece! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...