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Dark Knight

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I think the opposite if I was a consignor of a Supes 1 in the lower grade tier.  I wouldn't be pleased, in fact I would pull out before the auction starts.  In my mind, having multiple available copies in your grasp would lower the price of each one because if buyer A say was winning the 3.5 copy and gets outbidded by buyer B, buyer A can say well there are two other copies available that I can potentially win, why max out if I can just lean towards the lower graded copy and win that for cheaper.  I think most would just want to have A copy rather than looking for a certain grade.  Also, because all three copies have fairly strong eye appeal without any large pieces missing to the front or any writing, staining, etc. buyers can certainly make a choice.  If say only one of the copies has strong eye appeal and the rest did not and/or have brittle pages, than buyers would be more selective.  

Now if each of these copies say were in different grade levels (high, mid, low) than I can be fine with my copy being up for auction due to different buyer pool.

For a book like Superman 1 in which most would think that it is a book that is so rare to come by makes the rare factor washed up with 3 copies offered in one auction.   

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lou_fine

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13 minutes ago, LDarkseid1 said:

Alls I know is that 3.5 is gorgeous and is going to sell big!!

Well, after all this talk about this stunning copy of Supes 1 relative to its 3.5 grade, did anybody here bothered to dig into their pocket for the Grader's Notes as a public service to the rest of us poor and wishful wannabe's?  :wishluck:

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1 hour ago, lou_fine said:

Well, after all this talk about this stunning copy of Supes 1 relative to its 3.5 grade, did anybody here bothered to dig into their pocket for the Grader's Notes as a public service to the rest of us poor and wishful wannabe's?  :wishluck:

I was hoping someone would do it haha. I’m sure it will open our eyes as to the grade. My guess is interior water damage 🤔, but we’ll see.

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22 hours ago, october said:

Just got a $1000 book in that looks significantly duller than advertised. I'm all but done with Heritage because of it.

@Ricksneatstuff  I just received the HA book I won last week and agree with Andy's comment above. My book's colors are duller than what the scan represented, so while I'm excited to own it the colors feel like a letdown.

Looking back through my HA purchases (since 2008!), IMO this was not a problem prior to the past couple of months. The scan colors seem amped way up across the board and are not representing the books accurately, which makes me hesitant to go big on any future books. Is that feedback you could pass on to HA's comics department for us?

 

 

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On 1/8/2020 at 11:28 AM, Point Five said:

@Ricksneatstuff  I just received the HA book I won last week and agree with Andy's comment above. My book's colors are duller than what the scan represented, so while I'm excited to own it the colors feel like a letdown.

Looking back through my HA purchases (since 2008!), IMO this was not a problem prior to the past couple of months. The scan colors seem amped way up across the board and are not representing the books accurately, which makes me hesitant to go big on any future books. Is that feedback you could pass on to HA's comics department for us?

 

 

+1000

This has been occurring for some time now, I first noticed it 1 1/2 years ago with my GA Cap purchase and posted about it and I assume it was happening before then.  If you could address anything about HA for us, Rick, it would be to shed some light on this issue.

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43 minutes ago, Dr. Love said:

+1000

This has been occurring for some time now, I first noticed it 1 1/2 years ago with my GA Cap purchase and posted about it and I assume it was happening before then.  If you could address anything about HA for us, Rick, it would be to shed some light on this issue.

Excellent observation.

I’d hoped Heritage or CGC would’ve addressed this problem by now.  It’s been an issue impacting scanned books since CGC redesigned holders and labels several years ago.  

Apparently HA pumps the colors to compensate for the increased lip depth of the holder.  The added depth produces darker scans ....except for the label which is locked into a separate raised section close to the surface.  Label colors and the jet-black grade pops, but recessed books dull in comparison.  I’ve posted side by side comparisons of older & newer holders which bear this out.

HA’s remedy seems to be to boost and brighten everything until all of the colors appear to be on the same level.  To some degree it mitigates the overbearing label by lightening the blue, washing the label out to a minor degree.  But the downside is that this technique overcompensates introducing artificially enhanced color to most covers.  

I’m not asserting any wrongful intent to mislead here, just stating that there’s an obvious issue that has been difficult to remedy.  Both CGC and HA are responsible for this quandary.  IMO, the best solution would be for CGC to redesign holders so that the “billboard” label doesn’t stand out in front of the books.  That would make it easier to achieve accurate, color balanced scans that auction bidders can trust.

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On 1/7/2020 at 4:16 PM, october said:

Just got a $1000 book in that looks significantly duller than advertised. I'm all but done with Heritage because of it.

Maybe the answer is to ask HA for a "true" photograph.  

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On 1/7/2020 at 3:01 PM, lou_fine said:

And if you happen to own a copy of Supes 1 and was on the fence about consigning it to Heritage for auction.....this is definitely NOT the time to do it.....huge downside.  :tonofbricks:

Needless to say, if I was one of the consignors for these Supes 1, I would be totally  :mad: :censored: with what Heritage did here in terms of taking away one of the biggest selling points behind this book here.  Namely, it's apparent rarity relative to all of the other GA keys and instead showing its obvious ready availability to the other GA keys.  doh!

Although a much more minor key, there's a similar situation with Captain America's Weird Tales 74 - https://www.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=0+793+794+791+792+1893+1577+2088&Ntk=SI_Titles-Desc&Nty=1&Ntt=Weird+Tales+%2374&limitTo=all&ic=homepage-search-A-K-071316

Generally they do a decent job at spacing these books out, but apparently not in Q1 2020.

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38 minutes ago, Howling Mad said:

Although a much more minor key, there's a similar situation with Captain America's Weird Tales 74 - https://www.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=0+793+794+791+792+1893+1577+2088&Ntk=SI_Titles-Desc&Nty=1&Ntt=Weird+Tales+%2374&limitTo=all&ic=homepage-search-A-K-071316

Generally they do a decent job at spacing these books out, but apparently not in Q1 2020.

Judging from the brightness of their scans the guys at Heritage do spaced out pretty well.  

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On 1/8/2020 at 11:53 AM, Ricksneatstuff said:
On 1/8/2020 at 9:41 AM, Mmehdy said:

next auction...somebody reading the boards....

The 1.0 was sold. It was posted as a clerical error. @Gotham Kid

Is this because books sold directly by HA (i.e. not through auction) are not recorded as part of their archives since the only recent CGC 1.0 graded copy I can find is a Cr/OW copy that sold for $83,650 back in May of 2017?  ???

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11 minutes ago, lou_fine said:

Is this because books sold directly by HA (i.e. not through auction) are not recorded as part of their archives since the only recent CGC 1.0 graded copy I can find is a Cr/OW copy that sold for $83,650 back in May of 2017?  ???

I am working with Heritage as an independent consultant, currently from my home state. I am not really involved in the day to day workings related to these questions so I can't speak to how things are reported or archived or scanning. 

My role is if anyone has comics they would like to sell I am here to help you sell them through direct sale or if you have not worked with Heritage I can help you bring them to auction. If you have specific key books you are looking for I will try to help you find them. If you are interested in selling your collection or a large part of your collection directly I can buy it. 

I have bought and sold with all the major auction houses before deciding to work with Heritage. They were great to work with as a buyer and a seller in my experience and I am proud to be working with them. 

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Gotham Kid

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Some interesting MMC added to the next auction

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21911775%5D,sizedata%5B200x400%5D&call=u

also a Suspense 3 5.0 (R)

https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/suspense-comics-3-continental-magazines-1944-cgc-vg-fn-50-cream-to-off-white-pages/p/7224-251001.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

 

 

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