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It would be a Crime not to post your Detective Pulps
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On 1/17/2024 at 9:02 PM, Surfing Alien said:

Inside Detective, August 1939. Cover by Harwood Forsgren. A bit dingy but :takeit:when it comes to 1930's crime mags

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Yellow jumped off the stands and was a go to color on pulps and mags.  Unfortunately for us all these years later, yellow ages worse than any other color (even white).  In digital restoration, the way you handle yellows (and yellowing whites) is key and either overdoing it or underdoing it misses the mark.  Yellow was a great choice for this background as it contrasts with the red of the hair and the flesh tones of the lady jailbird.  And it makes the red of the title graphics just pop.

Definitely a beaut cover, SA.  Get the painted covers you like when you can and hope for a high grade copy to come along later, cuz some of them never do :cheers:

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I think the dimensions changed to a more square but still very large shape later on.  This (very) 60s ish is the only one I recall owning, and I have to keep it in the big boxes with my tabloids and over-sized mags

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I don't really know much about the title. Looking through the True Crime Detective Index shows all sorts of experimentation with cover styles (and the one you have there is experimental, too, imo).  No image given for the first issue (or a couple of others early in the run).

These below are all 35 or 36 from the index, over the top and *extra* salacious for a salacious area of publishing in the first place.  One seller I've gotten some True Crime from lately likes to advertise POST MORTEM PHOTOS, smh :ohnoez:

 

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Take a picture of the indicia page for me, SA, if you would, so I can scope the publisher info and see if I can't figure out who was behind this rag in its early days.

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On 1/26/2024 at 12:56 AM, Darwination said:

I think the dimensions changed to a more square but still very large shape later on.  This (very) 60s ish is the only one I recall owning, and I have to keep it in the big boxes with my tabloids and over-sized mags

OfficialDetectiveStoriesv32n07(1963-07)cover.thumb.jpg.034bedb096abea0721eb1d11b24b7741.jpg

I don't really know much about the title. Looking through the True Crime Detective Index shows all sorts of experimentation with cover styles (and the one you have there is experimental, too, imo).  No image given for the first issue (or a couple of others early in the run).

These below are all 35 or 36 from the index, over the top and *extra* salacious for a salacious area of publishing in the first place.  One seller I've gotten some True Crime from lately likes to advertise POST MORTEM PHOTOS, smh :ohnoez:

 

OfficialDetectiveCases1935-10cover.jpg.b7e9aa415cb4df77ce02c94f26a07861.jpgOfficialDetectiveCases1935-03cover.jpg.bd30eb707808f5399a03cf2fa28e73ea.jpgOfficialDetectiveCases1936-04cover.jpg.b712753e4f16b964cab8bc3f60d95189.jpgOfficialDetectiveCases1936-10-15cover.jpg.8583b475d47fbc063dd54a63eb52a3e3.jpgOfficialDetectiveCases1936-10-01cover.jpg.3ecb8886a9395e19fcbdd883f5befca9.jpgOfficialDetectiveCases1936-08cover.jpg.e1ede0ce565b5fdd48bb36bf2dbf1dc6.jpgOfficialDetectiveCases1936-05cover.jpg.df7b480ae0ca15aa6b78b5213609a041.jpgOfficialDetectiveCases1936-03cover.jpg.a61ea4c300f85224349a3bef1eb313f2.jpgOfficialDetectiveCases1936-04cover.jpg.b712753e4f16b964cab8bc3f60d95189.jpgOfficial Detective Cases1936-11-15 cover.jpg

Official Detective Cases1936-01 cover.jpgOfficial Detective Cases1936-11-01 cover.jpg

Take a picture of the indicia page for me, SA, if you would, so I can scope the publisher info and see if I can't figure out who was behind this rag in its early days.

 

Yeah, this is a pretty odd title. Some of those covers are great, you'll always hear me protest that I don't collect photo covers but there's some that I will and those are the type lol

Here' the indica and the title page (which is tucked to the side on the last page) With only 48 pages I guess they didn't want to waste prime space at the front crediting writers :(

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Offices were at 731 Plymouth in Chicago, at the heart of printers row. The building still stands. Looks just like the printing building in New York I used to go to to hand carry in my college newspaper floppy disk for printing when I was editor many years ago lol

 

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College newspaper editor, eh?  I've got a cuz-in-law that edited the Daily Kansan.  It's pretty fun when you go tracking down old indicia addresses what you see now.  In Chicago (biggest publishing city outside of NY), it's amazing how many offices/printing locations are clustered around each other.

A very quick bit of research from that indicia shows Herbert Krancer as President and General Manager.   There's scant low-hanging fruit in terms of biography on Krancer except for this most titillating bit - Krancer had married Pearle Annenberg, daughter of Moses (Moe) Annenberg in 1923.

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If you're not familiar with Moe Annenberg, David Saunder's typically labyrinthine wiki entry on the man points to his utmost importance in the history of American periodicals, one of the major behind the scenes players in newspaper, magazines, pulps and early comic distribution/publishing with ties to William Randolph Hearst, Bernarr Macfadden, Harry Donenfeld, the Shades, etc. MOBBED UP, yo.

https://www.pulpartists.com/Annenberg-P.html

If I get my hands on one of these early issues (November 36 would be a top choice :whistle:) maybe I'll dig a little deeper into Krancer and the magazine.  The most obvious thought would be that he was set up with the title via his father-in-law.  The movement of the mag to Triangle Publications in Philly in the 40s (per Phil Payne's index) points to continued involvement from Annenberg.

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On 1/25/2024 at 9:08 PM, Surfing Alien said:

Picked off this Official Detective March 15th, 1937 (It was 2x a month, pretty cool! and pretty skinny, 48 pages) 

This is definitely the largest magazine I've got now. It's huge. She doesn't really have headlights, but she's got a gun, so there's that to love lol

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What the heck is a "N.J.P.O. Bandit"?

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