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Batman 1 CGC 9.4!!!!
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woowoo

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This book will not pass the Detective 27 last sale.............................................................................................. it was a 9.0 so the other 2 9.0's will be getting an upgrade. How many times did John Verzyl resub his All American 16 and Cap 1 to get a higher grade Think the All American was 3 or 4 times to get the 9.4. I don't know how many times it took for his Cap 1 to get 9.8 but it was not the first shot to get that grade. All the key books are getting resub for higher grades and i bet it's just starting.

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1 hour ago, woowoo said:

This book will not pass the Detective 27 last sale.............................................................................................. it was a 9.0 so the other 2 9.0's will be getting an upgrade. How many times did John Verzyl resub his All American 16 and Cap 1 to get a higher grade Think the All American was 3 or 4 times to get the 9.4. I don't know how many times it took for his Cap 1 to get 9.8 but it was not the first shot to get that grade. All the key books are getting resub for higher grades and i bet it's just starting.

I agree, resubmit is the game...

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1 hour ago, woowoo said:

This book will not pass the Detective 27 last sale.............................................................................................. it was a 9.0 so the other 2 9.0's will be getting an upgrade. How many times did John Verzyl resub his All American 16 and Cap 1 to get a higher grade Think the All American was 3 or 4 times to get the 9.4. I don't know how many times it took for his Cap 1 to get 9.8 but it was not the first shot to get that grade. All the key books are getting resub for higher grades and i bet it's just starting.

I hope you are right, I really do. Personally I would rather have the Detective 27 7.0 over the 9.4 Bat. I see youre point which I believe is that high roller bidders will not only know this one used to be a 9.0 but also know that it is possible that with all the re-subs these days that it might not always be the single highest graded.

I might be wrong but I believe the next highest graded, a 9.2 was also a 9.0 at one time. (If I'm wrong I apologize). I doubt the 9.2 will ever get resubbed, if they gave that book another bump upwards that would really look bad for the business. And the only 9.0 seems to be fine with being just a 9.0. But anything can happen so who knows. I do hope youre correct that it doesn't pass the 7.0 27, however I think the "curent" "single highest graded" aspect of the #1 will drive it to at least around the 2 million mark.

 

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4 minutes ago, Professor Chaos said:

I hope you are right, I really do. Personally I would rather have the Detective 27 7.0 over the 9.4 Bat. I see youre point which I believe is that high roller bidders will not only know this one used to be a 9.0 (If I'm wrong about that I apoligize, but I know it was a lesser grade originally) but also know that it is possible that with all the re-subs these days that it might not always be the single highest graded.

I might be wrong but I believe the two highest graded, a 9.4 and a 9.2 were both 9.0's at one time. (If I'm wrong I apologize). I doubt the 9.4 will ever get resubbed and probably not the 9.2 either. If they gave that book another bump upwards that would really look bad for the business. But anything can happen so who knows, I sure don't. I do hope youre correct that it doesn't pass the 7.0 27, however I think the "curent" "single highest graded" aspect of the #1 will drive it to at least around the 2 million mark.

 

If they don't know than yes it might go over the Tec 27 but you would think they do. Throwing money out to get the current best is what some people can do.

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2 minutes ago, woowoo said:

If they don't know than yes it might go over the Tec 27 but you would think they do. Throwing money out to get the current best is what some people can do.

I edited my statement a little since youre quote but the point is the same. Yes you would think that anyone bidding would know the history of this book and others close to it as well. We have seen what the "highest graded copy" aspect does to people. Makes them crazy. The lure of the right to say "I have the best copy in the world" seems to be a powerful thing nowadays.

To me the 27 is so much more historically significant plus much rarer than the Bat 1 and any 27 from around 6.0 and higher should have more "value" than this 9.4 Bat 1. I think you feel the same as well.

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Yes Resubmit but it appears to be a superior book than the next closest 2 based on the scans ( even with the HA bump ).  I too would rather have the 7.0 Tec 27 but this is an amazing copy of Bats 1 

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1 hour ago, Professor Chaos said:

To me the 27 is so much more historically significant plus much rarer than the Bat 1 and any 27 from around 6.0 and higher should have more "value" than this 9.4 Bat 1. I think you feel the same as well.

 

1 hour ago, Chicago Boy said:

Yes Resubmit but it appears to be a superior book than the next closest 2 based on the scans ( even with the HA bump ).  I too would rather have the 7.0 Tec 27 but this is an amazing copy of Bats 1 

As we know, rarity doesn't always equal higher price. Vs a 6.0 Tec 27, I easily take this Bat 1 (remember there are more graded 6.5s than any other grade for Tec 27), the choice is a little tougher at 7.0, but for sure the recent 7.0 has reached it's maximum potential grade-wise. the 9.0 that is now a 9.2 I think has reached it's max, and clearly this Bat 1 is much superior. The remaining 9.0 might have some upwards potential, but it most likely will not reach the grade of this one. There is a lot to be said for the highest graded Bat 1, whether it has been maximized or not. I fully believe it will at least equal the sale of the 7.0 Detective 27. I think there is ample historical evidence that high grade Bat 1s consistently beat mid-grade (as in 4.5-6.0) Tec 27s in price, and the bump for this being the single highest graded will propel it past the 7.0 price.

 

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10 minutes ago, Crowzilla said:

 

As we know, rarity doesn't always equal higher price. Vs a 6.0 Tec 27, I easily take this Bat 1 (remember there are more graded 6.5s than any other grade for Tec 27), the choice is a little tougher at 7.0, but for sure the recent 7.0 has reached it's maximum potential grade-wise. the 9.0 that is now a 9.2 I think has reached it's max, and clearly this Bat 1 is much superior. The remaining 9.0 might have some upwards potential, but it most likely will not reach the grade of this one. There is a lot to be said for the highest graded Bat 1, whether it has been maximized or not. I fully believe it will at least equal the sale of the 7.0 Detective 27. I think there is ample historical evidence that high grade Bat 1s consistently beat mid-grade (as in 4.5-6.0) Tec 27s in price, and the bump for this being the single highest graded will propel it past the 7.0 price.

 

I posted this before but I'll do so again. If I could choose between the Tec27 7.0 or Batman1 9.4 (knowing it is the single best copy in existence), I'd take the Batman1

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8 minutes ago, Crowzilla said:

 

As we know, rarity doesn't always equal higher price. Vs a 6.0 Tec 27, I easily take this Bat 1 (remember there are more graded 6.5s than any other grade for Tec 27), the choice is a little tougher at 7.0, but for sure the recent 7.0 has reached it's maximum potential grade-wise. the 9.0 that is now a 9.2 I think has reached it's max, and clearly this Bat 1 is much superior. The remaining 9.0 might have some upwards potential, but it most likely will not reach the grade of this one. There is a lot to be said for the highest graded Bat 1, whether it has been maximized or not. I fully believe it will at least equal the sale of the 7.0 Detective 27. I think there is ample historical evidence that high grade Bat 1s consistently beat mid-grade (as in 4.5-6.0) Tec 27s in price, and the bump for this being the single highest graded will propel it past the 7.0 price.

 

Like i said John Verzyl had his All American 16 graded 3 or 4 times from what i hear to get the 9.4 grade (thumbsuThe Cap 1 was a resub to get the 9.8 grade. I see many books keep getting a resub for higher grades so what makes you think the Tec 27 .7.0 can not get a resub to a higher grade  hm possible right ? just a do nothing resub could get a 7.5 grade with different graders right. The cap 1 from what i understand went from 8.0 to 9.0 to 9.4 than 9.8. I think you are just fawned of Batman 1 :banana:

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