jimbo_7071 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 7 hours ago, batman_fan said: For some reason CGCs in-house pressers seem to have more depressed staples than others pressing books. It doesn't surprise me that they do what they do. What does surprise me is that the collecting community tolerates it. If collectors would punish books with those pressing-related defects by refusing to bid, the phenomenon would come to a screeching halt. Readcomix, vheflin and Randall Dowling 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehumantorch Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 On 6/23/2021 at 10:22 AM, greggy said: It got downgraded with the staple hole in the "A" in "Patrol" Not possible, it's doesn't even have staples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehumantorch Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 8 hours ago, batman_fan said: For some reason CGCs in-house pressers seem to have more depressed staples than others pressing books. Very depressing. How is a press that depresses the staples an improvement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, jimbo_7071 said: 8 hours ago, batman_fan said: For some reason CGCs in-house pressers seem to have more depressed staples than others pressing books. It doesn't surprise me that they do what they do. What does surprise me is that the collecting community tolerates it. If collectors would punish books with those pressing-related defects by refusing to bid, the phenomenon would come to a screeching halt. From some of your posts here, it sounds as though you need to spend some serious time in the CGC sin bin with a triple dose of their hourly CGC juice in order to remove these aberrant thoughts from your mind and assimilate you back in with the rest of your CGC brethren here. Then you too can have the same insatiable urge to bid like there's no tomorrow on these Promise Collection books with the nice big numbered labels on the top left hand corner of the slab, regardless of the mouse chews, depressed staples, dust shadows, edge tears, etc. on the books themselves, hoping against hope that you will be the lucky winning bidder left standing when it's all said and done. jimbo_7071 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, thehumantorch said: Very depressing. How is a press that depresses the staples an improvement? I think it is similar to the reverse spin rolls or the shrunken cover syndrome Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehumantorch Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 minute ago, batman_fan said: I think it is similar to the reverse spin rolls or the shrunken cover syndrome All pressing artifacts that I avoid jimbo_7071 and batman_fan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tth2 Posted June 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2021 3 hours ago, jimbo_7071 said: It doesn't surprise me that they do what they do. What does surprise me is that the collecting community tolerates it. If collectors would punish books with those pressing-related defects by refusing to bid, the phenomenon would come to a screeching halt. 2005 just called and would like to have its arguments back. jimjum12, Larryw7, greggy and 9 others 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark88 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 2 hours ago, thehumantorch said: Very depressing. How is a press that depresses the staples an improvement? Well CCS did increase the cost of their quick press up from a lowly $8/comic. Seems obvious that the pic of the Timely Promise comic did not have the staple manipulated before quick press which caused the depressed staple. Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowzilla Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 On 6/25/2021 at 11:19 PM, tth2 said: Unless Heritage know exactly which model of computer or screen you're using, and the settings you've got, how could they possibly ensure that? Can't they do what other photographers do and put a color separation guide card with every photo and then send the cards out to their regular buyers so you can adjust your screen? tth2 and BlowUpTheMoon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman619 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Nearly every monitor displays colors rear are not true, very few are calibrated well, even artists monitore. And if they are, when their work is submitted as a file or pdf, he is at the mercy of whatever the client is seeing on his monitor.. this will never be solved… so long as dozens of monitor makers are out there, running different system software, and the monitors in use range from brand new to 15 years old, and never calibrated… and if they were still just means what they see matches only what others with same monitor brand of same model # and same vintage… that was also calibrated with same software at the same time. Of course that’s all one thing, cause if the scans are off because they were sloppily made, or at bad settings and are too dark or washed out, and no one knew how to fix them, or company feels it’s a waste of time fixing each in photoshop? Garbage in, garbage out. adamstrange, tth2 and jimjum12 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo_7071 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 5 hours ago, tth2 said: 2005 just called and would like to have its arguments back. The arguments are just as valid now as they were 2005. But feel free to buy all of the books with depressed staples that you wish. I won't be bidding against you. path4play 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo_7071 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 7 hours ago, batman_fan said: I think it is similar to the reverse spin rolls or the shrunken cover syndrome That Cap 46 belongs in the same collection as the Cole Schave books and the Wilson face-jobbed books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tth2 Posted June 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2021 5 hours ago, jimbo_7071 said: 11 hours ago, tth2 said: 2005 just called and would like to have its arguments back. The arguments are just as valid now as they were 2005. But feel free to buy all of the books with depressed staples that you wish. I won't be bidding against you. I was and am on the side of anti-pressing. My point is that the battle was lost 16 years ago. The pressers (which is almost everyone now) only care about not leaving any money on the table, and don't care what happens to the book itself. namisgr, D84, Mmehdy and 5 others 3 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path4play Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 15 hours ago, jimbo_7071 said: It doesn't surprise me that they do what they do. What does surprise me is that the collecting community tolerates it. If collectors would punish books with those pressing-related defects by refusing to bid, the phenomenon would come to a screeching halt. I can't grade a 8.0+ anymore. Using these scans as a reference is throwing me off. jimbo_7071 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path4play Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 14 hours ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said: I do believe it’s what popped the staple in this $160k book . . . I've submitted a couple of sweet books that had a popped staple.... they did not come back 9.2.... comicjack, jimbo_7071, mstrange and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D84 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, tth2 said: I was and am on the side of anti-pressing. My point is that the battle was lost 16 years ago. The pressers (which is almost everyone now) only care about not leaving any money on the table, and don't care what happens to the book itself. In general, I don't press books, but have for spine roll removal because it's the one flaw that drives me nuts. jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Love Posted June 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2021 well then for you Peter @Gotham Kid upcoming Promises Batman 1 2.0 CR-OW Batman 2 2.0 CR-OW Batman 3 4.0 OW Batman 4 5.0 CR-OW Batman 5 4.5 OW Batman 6 6.5 OW Batman 7 5.5 OW Batman 8 5.5 OW Batman 9 3.0 OW Batman 10 5.0 OW Batman 11 6.5 CR-OW Batman 12 7.5 OWW Batman 13 4.5 OW Batman 14 6.5 OW Batman 15 7.5 OW Batman 16 6.0 OW Batman 17 7.0 OW Batman 19 8.0 OW Batman 57 9.0 OWW Detective Comics 55 5.5 OWW Detective Comics 63 6.5 OWW Detective Comics 70 5.5 OWW Detective Comics 74 7.0 OWW Detective Comics 75 6.5 OWW Detective Comics 77 6.0 OWW Detective Comics 81 5.0 OW Detective Comics 83 8.0 OWW Detective Comics 84 7.5 OWW Detective Comics 93 8.5 W path4play, Gotham Kid, bpc3qh and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpc3qh Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 53 minutes ago, Dr. Love said: well then for you Peter @Gotham Kid upcoming Promises Batman 1 2.0 CR-OW Batman 2 2.0 CR-OW Batman 3 4.0 OW Batman 4 5.0 CR-OW Batman 5 4.5 OW Batman 6 6.5 OW Batman 7 5.5 OW Batman 8 5.5 OW Batman 9 3.0 OW Batman 10 5.0 OW Batman 11 6.5 CR-OW Batman 12 7.5 OWW Batman 13 4.5 OW Batman 14 6.5 OW Batman 15 7.5 OW Batman 16 6.0 OW Batman 17 7.0 OW Batman 19 8.0 OW Batman 57 9.0 OWW Detective Comics 55 5.5 OWW Detective Comics 63 6.5 OWW Detective Comics 70 5.5 OWW Detective Comics 74 7.0 OWW Detective Comics 75 6.5 OWW Detective Comics 77 6.0 OWW Detective Comics 81 5.0 OW Detective Comics 83 8.0 OWW Detective Comics 84 7.5 OWW Detective Comics 93 8.5 W Surprising lack of key books on the Detective side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tabcom Posted June 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2021 17 hours ago, tth2 said: 2005 just called and would like to have its arguments back. 2021 #regradepromisecollection campaign. All buyers of the collection return the items to CGC. Demanding that the grades be reevaluated down by two points. Taking a stand, together we can fight injustice. buttock, jimjum12, Randall Dowling and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jimbo_7071 Posted June 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2021 5 hours ago, D84 said: In general, I don't press books, but have for spine roll removal because it's the one flaw that drives me nuts. I'm not opposed pressing mid-grade books that are practically bent in half because they spent 30 years draped over a rolling pin in some box in someone's attic, but it galls me that people will take books that are already high grade and then press them just get a higher number in the corner, knowing that the book could be damaged in the process. D84, nmtg9, jimjum12 and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
