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[sagii]

10 minutes ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

When I bought this book, I located the guy whose name is written all over it, and asked WTF? He said he was a little kid at the time (70 years ago!) and was sick of loaning his comics to his friends and never getting them back

Cool tidbit 

[Mmehdy]

3 hours ago, miraclemet said:

with the spike in values/prices on SA and newer comics, I'm expecting the same. Maybe even some selloff of SA books to fund GA purchases

These ultra grade timely's are once is a lifetime, the SA books, which might cost more to replace..CAN BE REPLACED...certain books in this collection cannot unless you own a time machine..you are trading up from SA to GA to obtain non-replaceable material...it is a no brainer..this collections is a game changer on so many levels...

[Funnybooks]

2 minutes ago, Mmehdy said:

These ultra grade timely's are once is a lifetime, the SA books, which might cost more to replace..CAN BE REPLACED...certain books in this collection cannot unless you own a time machine..you are trading up from SA to GA to obtain non-replaceable material...it is a no brainer..this collections is a game changer on so many levels...

Is this a Promise?

[Rip]

28 minutes ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

When I bought this book, I located the guy whose name is written all over it, and asked WTF? He said he was a little kid at the time (70 years ago!) and was sick of loaning his comics to his friends and never getting them back

In one of the collection of GA books I picked up," Dolores" started making custom library cards and taped a sleeve on the inside front cover of some of her books so others could check them out. I think she did that with about 3 or 4 of them.

Edited May 5, 2021 by Rip

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

5 minutes ago, Rip said:

In one of the collection of GA books I picked up," Dolores" started making custom library cards and taped a sleeve on the inside front cover of some of her books so others could check them out. I think she did that with about 3 or 4 of them.

That’s hilarious!

[skypinkblu]

21 hours ago, lou_fine said:

 

Yes, especially since you can't truly grade a book just from a scan, as opposed to having the actual book in hand.  Still, always best to buy the book, as oppsed to buying the label like what a lot of the OCD FOMO driven buyers seem to do nowadays.  

Looks like they have the Miss Fury run up right now, and Miss Fury #2 has always been my favorite out of this short run due to its beautiful blend of colors:  

https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/miss-fury-2-the-promise-collection-pedigree-timely-1943-cgc-vf-85-white-pages/p/7244-175085.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Preview-SearchResults-120115&lotPosition=93|0#

 

Surprised that they haven't had a higher graded copy after all this time, since this Promise Copy here is the highest graded copy at CGC 8.5.  Not sure what happened with that top staple area or the wear at the bottom of the spine, but I guess it is what it is, although I have certainly seen better presenting CGC 8.5 graded books from a strict visual point of view.    

That's always been a tough issue to find. However, I didn't realize that it only went that high until you mentioned it. I think I'll hug my 7.5.

 

[skypinkblu]

30 minutes ago, Rip said:

In one of the collection of GA books I picked up," Dolores" started making custom library cards and taped a sleeve on the inside front cover of some of her books so others could check them out. I think she did that with about 3 or 4 of them.

I had one with a sleeve inside the back cover with a card, but I don't remember a name on it.

[Rip]

7 minutes ago, skypinkblu said:

I had one with a sleeve inside the back cover with a card, but I don't remember a name on it.

Hmm, I might have sold you one of them.

[lou_fine]

16 minutes ago, skypinkblu said:

Surprised that they haven't had a higher graded copy after all this time, since this Promise Copy here is the highest graded copy at CGC 8.5. 

 

16 minutes ago, skypinkblu said:

That's always been a tough issue to find. However, I didn't realize that it only went that high until you mentioned it. I think I'll hug my 7.5.

 

Yes, when I saw the Promise Copy of this Miss Fury #2, I decided to take a quick look at the census and was rarther shocked to see that the highest graded copies were only 2 in CGC 8.0 and 2 in CGC 7.5, including one of the latter ones being your copy then.  

Checked my Mile High Catalogue and surprisingly, it would appear that the Miss Fury run was not listed in there which means that it must have been one of the runs snapped up by Burrell Rowe as partial payment for loaning Chuckles the $2K to purchase the entire Church collection in the first place, or dare we say was actually absent from the Church collection to start with.  If it was in there as part of the collection, I guess it must be held pretty tightly in the hands of a private collector because both the HA and CC archives don't indicate a single sale of a Church copy for any issues of Miss Fury.    

[lou_fine]

On 5/1/2021 at 11:47 AM, MrBedrock said:

On 5/1/2021 at 10:26 AM, Spyder! said:

Man, this thread is bumming me out. It’s such a cool collection, with such incredible books, and all I hear is a bunch of whining over a few books getting grades you all think are too high based on a cover scan.  You can find examples of books where the scan doesn’t seem to align with the grade on non-pedigree books too.

Amen. And I, for two.

 

Is that because there's no need for whining when like the old saying goes............."a picture is worth a thousand words".    

On 5/3/2021 at 12:17 PM, MrBedrock said:

 

 

[Robot Man]

8 hours ago, Straw-Man said:

trying to figure out which one will make its way into my ped type-set...

I think that might be my tact as well. 

[buttock]

2 hours ago, lou_fine said:

 

Yes, when I saw the Promise Copy of this Miss Fury #2, I decided to take a quick look at the census and was rarther shocked to see that the highest graded copies were only 2 in CGC 8.0 and 2 in CGC 7.5, including one of the latter ones being your copy then.  

Checked my Mile High Catalogue and surprisingly, it would appear that the Miss Fury run was not listed in there which means that it must have been one of the runs snapped up by Burrell Rowe as partial payment for loaning Chuckles the $2K to purchase the entire Church collection in the first place, or dare we say was actually absent from the Church collection to start with.  If it was in there as part of the collection, I guess it must be held pretty tightly in the hands of a private collector because both the HA and CC archives don't indicate a single sale of a Church copy for any issues of Miss Fury.    

It's almost like someone owns all the Church Timelys.  I wonder who. 

[sfcityduck]

22 minutes ago, buttock said:

It's almost like someone owns all the Church Timelys.  I wonder who. 

By definition, it could only be one family.

[buttock]

2 minutes ago, sfcityduck said:

By definition, it could only be one family.

Fair point.

[lou_fine]

12 minutes ago, sfcityduck said:

35 minutes ago, buttock said:

It's almost like someone owns all the Church Timelys.  I wonder who. 

By definition, it could only be one family.

If that's the case, then I guess Burrell for some reason must have gone after only the Miss Fury run out of all of the Timely runs.  

Suprised he wouldn't have held onto any of the Cap's, Torch, Subby's, USA, etc. or the Marvel Mystery's after issue #11 then, since they (including all of the keys) are all listed in Chuck's Mile High Catalogue.  

If so, I guess the Miss Fury run must have remained intact after Burrell picked it up and stayed that way throughout until John Veryzl picked it up for his own collection then.  

Or is it possible that Church didn't really cared so much for the super heorines since it looks like his Moon Girl run only had a Fine copy of Moon Girl 7 as listed in Chuck's Mile High Catalogue?  

Edited May 5, 2021 by lou_fine

[Rip]

29 minutes ago, buttock said:

It's almost like someone owns all the Church Timelys.  I wonder who. 

When they do come up for sale, is it going to be one of those "mail your bid in" things again?

[jimbo_7071]

8 hours ago, Sarg said:

Agreed. Writing on the cover degrades the original printing just as much as chips, tears, and tape, even when it is a "pedigree" collection. I will never understand why graders pretend this is not the case; but I will happily take books they grade 5.0 with no writing over books graded 9.0 with writing. 

One word: money!

[sfcityduck]

I'm beginning to think that this thread title, "They're Still Out There," refers to the record long time my Fast Track Economy and Standard Books are stuck on "Scheduled for Grading."  

 

[Sarg]

10 hours ago, miraclemet said:

The DO count sunfading against a books grade, they DONT count printer variation against a book (so a "light roll" of color can be graded just as highly as a bold color, though obviously collectors prefer the best version of a book possible) it's along the same lines as centering... CGC doesnt hold it against a book, since that's the way it was produced (unless the variation is egregious)

That's great to know. I'm going to prioritize collecting Fiction House 3.0s with no color degradation. Thank goodness for completely arbitrary grading standards! 

[sfcityduck]

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