Are prices still climbing or have they eased up a bit??? 42 42

[LordRahl]

On 7/9/2024 at 11:56 AM, 1Cool said:

So we have confirmed that a few (probably most) of the FF4 key books are quite a bit lower than in 2019.  I don't have GPA but I'd guess there are a bunch of Avengers keys which are also much lower than in 2019 especially anything with Kang.  Daredevil key books are probably lower even in the Silver-Age since people were all gung-ho on Purple Man at one point.  I'd not be shocked if minor key Thor books are lower since everyone was inflated with that title in 2019.  What other Marvel stuff do we have left that is higher at this point?

Nope. Pretty much just FF and that's not across the board either. 

Avengers 8 is down, yes. But that's a spec book. All of the other early issues are well higher now then 2019 as is 57. 

DD higher across the board on the early stuff, including 4.

X Men higher across the board.

ASM higher across the board.

But you know, let's not let facts get in the way

 

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

On 7/9/2024 at 8:43 PM, LordRahl said:

Since I'm one of the boardies that said that, I'm currently buying as you can see in the CL/HA wins thread, so nothing "happened" to us. Not sure what you're expecting from "those boardies"... a daily update of how much we've bought today? Or are you being intentionally obtuse as usual?

More like intentionally tongue-in-cheek

[LordRahl]

On 7/9/2024 at 10:56 AM, thehumantorch said:

Agreed but it's similar for most of the issues.

Here's FF #2 in 6.0

2024	2	$2760	$2220
2022	3	$12100	$3988
2021	2	$5760	$5051
2019	2	$3500	$3120

Not sure if you cherry picked ones that fit your narrative or just got lucky with the ones you looked up but why don't you put up the comparison for FF 5, 12, 25 and 50? Those are the only ones I bothered to look up but they strangely enough are all higher now in F-VFish grades than they were in 2019. That includes 2 spec books in 5 and 50. I suspect there are more early FF's that are higher than lower compared to 2019.

[NewWorldOrder]

In my opinion the market is where it should be.  Fair for both buyers and sellers.

My biggest mistake during COVID was not selling everything in my personal CGC collection and just buying it back cheaper 2 year later!

My best years have been post COVID selling.   I was just catching my stride when COVID started.

2024 has already been better for me all around in terms of both buying and selling over 2023.

#1 Reason is the trash submissions are gone from the queue at CGC.

I think if you price things to market you will do fine as a seller/dealer, and buy smartly then you will keep making that free money for the rest of your life!

 

 

Edited July 10 by NewWorldOrder

[LordRahl]

On 7/9/2024 at 7:06 PM, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

More like intentionally tongue-in-cheek

Perhaps but the passive-aggressive posting gets old from him... real fast.

[NewWorldOrder]

On 7/9/2024 at 7:08 PM, LordRahl said:

Perhaps but the passive-aggressive posting gets old from him... real fast.

I rather someone be a bully and a true real villain over being passive-aggressive!

Edited July 10 by NewWorldOrder

[paperheart]

On 7/9/2024 at 7:08 PM, NewWorldOrder said:

In my opinion the market is where is should be.  Fair for both buyers and sellers.

Mu biggest mistake during COVID was not selling everything in my personal CGC collection and just buying it back cheaper 2 year later!

My best years have been post COVID selling.   I was just catching my stride when COVID started.

2024 has already been better for me all around in terms of both buying and selling over 2023.

#1 Reason is the trash submissions are gone from the queue at CGC.

I think if price things to market you will do fine as a seller/dealer, and buy smartly then you will keep making that free money for the rest of your life!

 

 

all of them?

 

 

 

[NewWorldOrder]

On 7/9/2024 at 7:11 PM, paperheart said:

all of them?

 

 

 

@greggy Mike, they grandfather in "He who should not be submitting".

[thehumantorch]

On 7/9/2024 at 8:06 PM, LordRahl said:

Not sure if you cherry picked ones that fit your narrative or just got lucky with the ones you looked up but why don't you put up the comparison for FF 5, 12, 25 and 50? Those are the only ones I bothered to look up but they strangely enough are all higher now in F-VFish grades than they were in 2019. That includes 2 spec books in 5 and 50. I suspect there are more early FF's that are higher than lower compared to 2019.

I wasn't cherry picking, just early SA FFs.

#5 isn't as bad.  It is worth more than it's high in 2019 but less than 50% of it's high in 2022.

2024	3	$12100	$9000
2023	4	$14400	$8700
2022	5	$28800	$16500
2021	2	$24593	$21000
2020	2	$7950	$6563
2019	4	$7000	$5880

[LordRahl]

On 7/9/2024 at 7:46 PM, thehumantorch said:

I wasn't cherry picking, just early SA FFs.

#5 isn't as bad.  It is worth more than it's high in 2019 but less than 50% of it's high in 2022.

2024	3	$12100	$9000
2023	4	$14400	$8700
2022	5	$28800	$16500
2021	2	$24593	$21000
2020	2	$7950	$6563
2019	4	$7000	$5880

Well yes, pretty well established now that pandemic prices aren't coming back. The discussion was relative to 2019, not 2022.

[DC#]

On 7/9/2024 at 6:28 PM, thehumantorch said:

How hard would it be to take a classic story arc and make an entertaining movie?

Seth Rogen was asked by an interviewer if he was surprised when a movie doesn't work.   He said he is surprised when a move does work because they are so complicated and so many things have to go right -  it is shocking when they do.     

[RockMyAmadeus]

On 7/9/2024 at 7:08 PM, NewWorldOrder said:

#1 Reason is the trash submissions are gone from the queue at CGC.

[RockMyAmadeus]

On 7/9/2024 at 8:06 PM, DC# said:

Seth Rogen was asked by an interviewer if he was surprised when a movie doesn't work.   He said he is surprised when a move does work because they are so complicated and so many things have to go right -  it is shocking when they do.     

[RockMyAmadeus]

On 7/9/2024 at 7:09 PM, NewWorldOrder said:

I rather someone be a bully and a true real villain over being passive-aggressive!

[greggy]

On 7/9/2024 at 7:13 PM, NewWorldOrder said:

@greggy Mike, they grandfather in "He who should not be submitting".

[MAY1979]

On 7/9/2024 at 7:19 PM, DC# said:

I don't want to keep bringing this book up but holy cow is it dropping fast all the sudden.   It really seemed to be holding at the $3K mark for the longest time......Heritage just sold for under $2.2k.     Looking at GPA there are still a lot of recent sales in the upper 2s.....maybe Heritage is just not the place for sellers of this book right now (and yes....these books are for sale every week it seems on Heritage so I get that aspect too)

 

 

Noticing those here who vehemently and sometimes nastily insisted book was a sound investment at 5K are totally quiet.

Direct Sale in 9.8w will negatively and consistently breach 2000 mark possible as early as later this year.

Edited July 30 by MAR1979

[Tec-Tac-Toe]

On 7/10/2024 at 8:32 AM, MAR1979 said:

Noticing those here who vehemently and sometimes nastily insisted book was a sound investment at 5K are totally quiet.

Direct Sale in 9.8w will negatively and consistently breach 1800 mark. 

There goes my immediate retirement.

[1Cool]

On 7/9/2024 at 9:59 PM, LordRahl said:

Nope. Pretty much just FF and that's not across the board either. 

Avengers 8 is down, yes. But that's a spec book. All of the other early issues are well higher now then 2019 as is 57. 

DD higher across the board on the early stuff, including 4.

X Men higher across the board.

ASM higher across the board.

But you know, let's not let facts get in the way

 

Like I said I don't have GPA so I was guessing at the recent prices for the Silver-Age books since I don't get them in often and definitely not at a price I can resell.  I knew they were still doing better then Bronze and Copper so I'm happy to hear they are still higher then 2019 prices.  Do you have GPA so would you be willing to post up the data spread for a couple DD books like #4 and #7?  What about a book like JIM 116 or Thor 125? Spec books where the market for over a decade so I don't take them out of the equation but I can understand why you would if you were not a reseller. 

We are back to the boring old days of the blue chips doing well and most everything else going up a couple percent a year.  Slabbing and pressing everything is king.  But I am glad to take your data into the equation so I can update my opinions about those Silver Age books.

[blazingbob]

On 7/10/2024 at 9:39 AM, 1Cool said:

Like I said I don't have GPA so I was guessing at the recent prices for the Silver-Age books since I don't get them in often and definitely not at a price I can resell.  I knew they were still doing better then Bronze and Copper so I'm happy to hear they are still higher then 2019 prices.  Do you have GPA so would you be willing to post up the data spread for a couple DD books like #4 and #7?  What about a book like JIM 116 or Thor 125? Spec books where the market for over a decade so I don't take them out of the equation but I can understand why you would if you were not a reseller. 

We are back to the boring old days of the blue chips doing well and most everything else going up a couple percent a year.  Slabbing and pressing everything is king.  But I am glad to take your data into the equation so I can update my opinions about those Silver Age books.

As a "dealer" you don't have GPA?  Are you sure you want to be a reseller of books constantly guessing if what you are buying even works?  How much money have you left on the table because you didn't know what a book really sells for?

Is the subscription fee for a service that makes you money really that much of a dent to your capital base?

This type of post bothers me more then the current state of the market.  Where are the future big dealers going to come from if they can't afford $9.99 a month  

Edited July 10 by blazingbob

[Robot Man]

On 7/10/2024 at 7:27 AM, blazingbob said:

As a "dealer" you don't have GPA?  Are you sure you want to be a reseller of books constantly guessing if what you are buying even works?  How much money have you left on the table because you didn't know what a book really sells for?

Is the subscription fee for a service that makes you money really that much of a dent to your capital base?

This type of post bothers me more then the current state of the market.  Where are the future big dealers going to come from if they can't afford $9.99 a month  

Most of them do business on IG or Whatnot with 100s of uneducated buyers…